• Effort fails to block bill to Confederate symbolism from Arkansas's flag
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https://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2019/mar/14/effort-fails-block-arkansas-flag-symbolism-bill/?latest Rep. Jack Ladyman, R-Jonesboro, on Wednesday failed to block the latest legislation by Rep. Charles Blake, D-Little Rock, that would change state law to remove a symbolic reference to the Confederacy on the state flag. Ladyman's motion failed in a 4-4 vote in the 20-member House State Agencies and Governmental Affairs Committee. The flag's single blue star above the word "Arkansas" denotes the state as a member of the Confederate States of America, according to the law explaining the flag's elements. Blake's original bill would have changed the designation to commemorate native tribes. A committee defeated and then tabled that bill. Gov. Asa Hutchinson, a Republican, then came out in support of a change. Blake's latest legislation, House Bill 1736, would have the top star honor the United States. The three stars below the state name -- which now honor the U.S., Spain and France -- would honor Spain, France and native tribes.
If I read this correctly, the design of the flag wouldn't change, just the meaning of the stars.
http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2019/jan/21/segregationists-granddaughter-pushes-new-mississip/ This is also going on
That's such a benin change to the Arkansas flag, but by doing so has so much meaning. Why would someone try to block that?
Honestly seems like a nice feelgood change, not sure why it would be blocked. "Muh history"
cultural heritage
A cultural heritage of treason for the sake of owning other human beings.
The Civil Rights movement was seen by southern whites as a direct attack against them, their heritage, and their way of life. The Confederates literally believed that God allowed them to own slaves.
Funny considering this isn't even the worst offender when it comes to flags honoring the traitor state in the slightest, but symbolism does matter I suppose...
There's no "heritage" from Southern Americans within America, let alone "owning slaves is my heritage."
bit of a stretch
just like the confederate flag somehow doesn't represent slavery and oppression, the confederacy has long been whitewashed in the south as just a civil argument instead of a self proclaimed white ethnostate
Mention one non-slavery value from the Confederate states culture that is not also a value of the United states culture.
I seem to remember a Daily Show episode where Samantha Bee was talking about some sigil or whatever that had a white man appearing to be strangling a Native American. I can't remember any more details than that, but it was bizarre seeing people defending it.
that'd be the Whiteboro Seal
Saying the word "y'all"
I was born and raised in Southern California, and was blessed to end up in a career that flew me all over the country. I never found (in general) a more hospitable populous than those in the south, aside from Texas. It didn't matter to me really, but was noticeable enough to remember.
If you want heritage why not put the union jack on your flag? Hawaii has it.
That's all good, but is that considered a confederate value, or is it a more general southern hospitality thing that might as well have grown to its current form without seccesion? Do you think, if not for the efforts of a white supremacist rebellion, that hospitality and friendliness would not exist?
Saying the Confederacy is part of your heritage is like saying East Germany is
Being someone not from Europe, I don't quite understand the comparison.
It's probably not the best comparison but the point is that both states pretty much just existed for idealogical reasons and that the only reason someone would claim it as part of their heritage is because they want to carry on its legacy IMO
Nazi germany would be a better example than East Germany. East Germany was how it was because the Soviets were in charge of it after WW2. Nazi Germany was legitimately led by people who wanted to subjugate an entire race.
i was out of town last week so apologies for the late reply. the claim was that "southern americans have no heritage". i wasnt trying to speak to anything but that, as it's an unfair blanket statement which includes southerners of all backgrounds. my family was on the wrong side of the civil war, one of them ending up a POW who we still have letters from. id never attempt to defend their actions or values or those of the confederacy. that history though doesnt necessarily taint or strip every modern southerner of their culture, and thats the only thing i took exception to.
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