Mississippi enacts law that bans abortion before some women would know they’re p

[Splash Attack]

[citation needed]

This is passing the buck the issue itself when the criticism is directed at conservatives' lack of will to fund social programs and initiatives that actually help children lead happy and healthy lives. It does not address the criticism at hand.

Also, there are plenty of issues with adoption. Foster homes are not always good actual homes for children, despite systemic efforts to select good ones. Sometimes the foster parents can be abusive toward their children, and sometimes they're in it for the aid that comes with being a foster parent. Adoption does not guarantee a child will lead a happy life. My source; a good personal friend who had horrible adoptive homes that she was forced to grow up in.

[Maken]

Where did he say that they cannot be?

He simply says that such people exist and occasionally have the habit of making lives miserable whether they intend to or not.

[WuzeyUzi]

Reminder that crime rates went down following the Roe vs Wade ruling, because anti-abortionism affects the poor more than any other social class.

[EmperorScorpious]

Well then I will counter with the point that better, honest and loving people exist and occasionally have made the habit of making lives better whether they intend to or not.

[cis.joshb]

We either need an exodus from Mississippi, or more realistically, we need the women and allies of American to stream into Mississippi and make the Women's March look like a parade. I know I'm speaking from an armchair, but I do like roads trips.

[Amber902]

If by adopted you mean "stuck in abuse filled group homes/orphanages than yes there are a lot of people looking to "adopt".

[CatFodder]

If these people actually wanted to reduce abortions, rather than control women, they'd be promoting comprehensive sex education and free birth control.

[EmperorScorpious]

Their rational is the baby is a separate human being with its own rights, even in the womb while a kidney or blood is not.

[zukriuchen]

That is not much of a rebuttal as to why

[EmperorScorpious]

It is an explanation of their rationale, though.

[.Del]

I bet the politicians who support this are also against a contraceptives, you know, the thing that reduces the need for an abortion?

[Psycommu]

Usually, key word, yeah. The more religious conservatives pretty much think anything that makes sex not have a huge chance of resulting in a pregnancy is completely abhorrent, sex for pleasure being a sin and all and should only be used to procreate, etc. etc.
Not all of 'em are like that I assume, it would be bad for me to lump every conservative into the same ideology.

[Sgman91]

Beyond the super fundamentalists, I don't know of any larger portion of conservatives against contraceptive use.

[Splash Attack]

I'm glad you made the effort to cite your sources, but once again this does not actually address the criticism at hand, like I said in my previous post. I would consider it a deflection of the actual issue.

That being said, your sources aren't entirely on point, either.

1) Yes, adoption is a long and difficult process, nobody is directly contradicting that. This does not support the argument that there is a "surplus" of parents. In fact, it even mentions there being a shortage of African American couples. "Every piece of data you've seen" isn't valid when you can't present said data, either.

2) Sure, I guess. I don't see how this is relevant, though. Christians aren't inherently better adoptive parents, so why does it matter?

3) This one I especially take issue with. Nowhere in this piece is there data about actual abuse, and nowhere does it compare these stats with the overall population. The data they cite is pretty arbitrary, too. "Being read to" or "having a close relationship, or "having positive attitudes" are meaningless measures when there is nothing to compare it to.

I'm going to address these points, too.
Conservatives are often against the ease of access to contraceptives, along with sex education that promotes contraceptive use. These are things that would reduce the number of women seeking abortion.

This is a question that is outside the realms of science, as pregnancy is a long and complex process. There is no scientific definition of personhood, as personhood is a philosophical concept. That being said, it does not offer an explanation as to why this is the philosophy itself, and coming from a fundamental Christian background, none was ever really offered.