Wikileaks co-founder Julian Assange arrested in London
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Watching people’s knee jerk reaction to this because of their rabid anti Trumpism is one of the stupidest things happening right now. Nobody here cheering this arrest has specified what Assange is or should be charged with. Is withholding the RNC emails suddenly a criminal offense now? Publishing leaked information should not be a crime no matter the circumstances. Look past Assange as an individual and recognize that if you give even half a shit about a free press you shouldn’t be supporting this. This is the government going after leakers and those who publish them.
I didn't know that, and now I do I can kind of understand but I still don't agree with the hate he's getting, I mean this is one man who revealed shit a whole society is doing and treating all of us. The stuff he's revealed is stuff that's directly effecting our lives and he's getting punished but what about the government? and all the people behind all that shit he's dug up? they're getting away Scot free. If he can get dragged away why can't they? They've done far worse.
I don't actually think he should have been arrested, but I also am not too upset that he has been, if that makes sense? Still, people like Edward Snowden are better examples of transparency activists. Assange has a huge ego and he has shown himself to be a massive hypocrite quite a few times.
Doesn’t make sense to me. Hate the guy all you like, his arrest is principally wrong and politically motivated.
Ohh cut the crap. You wanna talk about bootlickers to unjust authority while repeatedly excusing and blame shifting in favor of actual dictators like Maduro, going so far as the argue with actual victims and survivors of his regime that their experiences don't matter.
Where do your actual values on this rest? Is it about taking a piss in the eye of the U.S. at any opportunity or is it about resisting "unjust authority," huh?
I am agreeing that it is principally wrong but also saying that I don't feel any empathy towards him specifically. I would prefer that he wasn't arrested but I also think it's better to support people like Snowden and I am not going to lose any sleep over this.
If you’re going to smear me as a Maduro apologist you can kindly get fucking bent, pal. Give me a direct quote or cut that nonsense.
Tell me what crime Assange should be charged with.
Are we sure Mission Impossible is just a movie
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They'll eventually kill him or worse, torture him 24/7 until he literally feels like killing himself, in Guantanamo. Same for Snowden.
Look at where we are right now, thanks to WikiLeaks and Snowden. Just imagine where we'd be if it wasn't for those 2, maybe we wouldn't even know that the NSA can watch you masturbate even while your phone is turned off.
Not all heroes wear capes and these should be immortalized. For more whisteblowers like them.
Did we ever know for sure that his unkempt state was because he refused to clean himself up or because they prevented him from doing so?
wait, now he's againt Trump?
What information about Trump did he withhold?
Both the DNC and RNC were hacked by the Russians but only the RNC/Hillary campaign emails were publicly dumped through WikiLeaks. They did not reveal the RNC dump at all.
Overt partisan bias right there.
https://www.justice.gov/usao-edva/pr/wikileaks-founder-charged-computer-hacking-conspiracy
He’s being charged for his involvement in the 2010 Manning leaks. So yeah, one hundred percent unrelated to Trump/Russia and still completely unjustified.
They know as soon as they charge him for the 2016 election, Putin will pardon him.
Unjustified? Uh ok let's just let leakers expose national security assets and materials without consequence, it's fine.
Besides, you think Trump's DOJ would authorize hitting Assange with Trump-Russia shit? Of course he's not being publicly charged over it, it's the administration's position that Trump-Russia is fake news and doesn't exist. Charging Assange over it is counterproductive to their goals.
An internal Pentagon report showed Manning’s leaks hurt absolutely nobody and there were no threats to national security. I’d link it but I’m on my phone.
Was there supposed to be something condemning there?
What about the countless other chargers they'll come up with to alienate everyone into thinking he's as bad as a terrorist?
You think Manning leaked shit for fun? She exposed covered up war crimes in Iraq and revealed the government was drastically under reporting the number of civilian casualties there were.
If that makes it all right, I dare you to go smoke pot in front of the White House, right there on the sidewalk. And when you're arrested and charged with felonious drug possession you tell them that nobody was hurt or threatened so you should be let go.
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Actually I said you blame shift and excuse. Which is what all of this, and more posts, are doing. Crap about a non-existent U.S. invasion, false claims are Red Cross aid that you then tried to wash away when Fnox called you out by saying it was from an article that directly contradicted you. And saying he's a strongman dictator so why would he let aid in?
Then why are they even bothering to arrest him?
I'm by no means an expert but I think it's funny that suddenly claims start appearing everywhere that there was russian involvement in the US elections but it's been 3 years and nothing has been done since then
I mean from a perspective it looks like someone's butthurt because they lost the elections. We had the same kind of claims in our general electiona last year and they were quickly dismissed by the police and the intelligence agencies.
So since he was arrested:
US say he faces 5 years in jail
Found guilty of failing to surrender, to which he plead 'not guilty'
US file request for his extradition
https://www.theguardian.com/media/live/2019/apr/11/wikileaks-founder-julian-assange-arrested-at-the-ecuadorean-embassy-live-updates
I think hes just a Russian cutout trying to hide under the whistle blower status, whistle blowers don't selectivley release information to push an agenda, and that's exactly what he did.
This might shock you but I don’t think someone who smokes pot in front of the White House should be arrested. For exactly the reasons you said.
We haven't seen a word of the Mueller report. Barr is a stooge crony who should be trusted as far as his asshole can stretch around a fire hydrant, which is to say next to none.
Several top Trump campaign officials are in jail or headed to jail for lying to the FBI about their engagement with Russians and Russia. A new report shows that Russia probed every state's elections systems in 2016.
Don't let anyone tell you what Mueller supposedly concluded until you can read the report with your own eyes, because right now the only people who've seen the report and are talking about it are Trump sycophants.
I also found it funny that they didn't even wait to take him to court, he was instantly charged for fleeing and not paying a fine
Are you claiming Hillary Clinton did this when she's just a shitty civilian nobody cares about (except Trump voters who need someone to hate)? Fucking hold my beer because I'm going to break ribs laughing on the ground now
I actually admitted in that thread that I was wrong about the Red Cross, so I’m not sure what you want from me? The Red Cross did condemn the US humanitarian aid because it was a politically motivated move and humanitarian aid should not have political strings attached. All I did was point out the hawkish US policy led by bloodthirsty neocons is gross and that there’s legitimate misinformation being spread (such as the burning of the aid convoy). If searching for the truth makes me a Maduro lover (even though I’ve also stated I want to see Maduro gone) then I guess you fucking got me, mate. I reiterate: get bent you disingenuous hack.
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