• Alabama Senate bans nearly all abortions, including rape cases
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Alabama’s state Senate passed a bill on Tuesday to outlaw nearly all abortions, creating exceptions only to protect the mother’s health, as part of a multistate effort to have the U.S. Supreme Court reconsider a woman’s constitutional right to an abortion. The country’s strictest abortion bill was previously approved by the Alabama House of Representatives and will now go to Republican Governor Kay Ivey, who has withheld comment on whether she would sign but is generally a strong opponent of abortion. The law, which passed 25-6, would take effect six months after being signed by the governor, but is certain to face legal challenge from the American Civil Liberties Union and other groups which have vowed to sue. Republican Senator Clyde Chambliss, arguing in favor of the Alabama bill, said the whole point was “so that we can go directly to the Supreme Court to challenge Roe versus Wade.” https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-abortion-alabama/alabama-senate-bans-nearly-all-abortions-including-rape-cases-idUSKCN1SK13E
Republican Senator Clyde Chambliss, arguing in favor of the Alabama bill, said the whole point was “so that we can go directly to the Supreme Court to challenge Roe versus Wade.” What an absolute piece of shit. Disgusting.
Next up, lets take back the rights given to women aswell!
Next up? This is a direct removal of women’s rights. It’s already happening.
I meant the rest.
Do they want to challenge the second amendment as well? Because that's where this will end up if they keep pulling stunts like this.
this feels different now https://youtu.be/z7SqtIe5rZQ
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Seriously, how is there not an active civil war right now? Isn't this the kind of shit that precious second amendment was set up for, to keep a "well-regulated militia" so that the people could protect themselves against a tyrannical government? The government is stripping the people of their rights, throwing immigrants into actual camps & their children into actual cages - how has there not been a fucking revolt á là French Revolution yet? Why haven't mobs of people stormed the White House & Capitol and dragged these fuckers out by the scruff of their necks and lynched them on the streets? Now's a good goddamn time to do so - if it's not happening now it'll never happen. Governments have been toppled for less in this world, but in the US it just kind of keeps chugging along. How the fuck?
Jesus that was cringe, you perform an adult size mock abortion across the street you don't roundhouse kick them.
something something muh morals, something something we shouldn't cast the first stone, something something "but we can make them listen using words". And the small matter that people forgot their representatives arent unreachable figures set above the sun and the moon, they're made of the same stuff as their constituents, after all.
Because by-and-large, I think a huge portion of those "in case of tyrannical government, break glass" people are in support of this government.
I think it's because they don't have the same sense of solidarity that we have in Europe.
He's acting like a total weirdo as well
"It's not tyrannical if I agree with it!", basically.
I think a lot of it is because everyone is busy fighting to survive as it is I don't think many people here at all can afford to miss work, we've all got boots to our throat with what it takes to even scrape by - we'd lose our jobs, and join the growing number of unemployed and homeless. the system is functioning as intended fuck this whole country.
Its Alabama. That's why. If Alabama wants to suck then it can suck on it's own and reap what they sow. It's not like anybody or any business ever considers moving to Alabama. The world will change around them while they continue to try and figure out how to not be racist and sexist still.
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And the Republican party continues being such overtly evil cum stains that they'd make the fucking Empire jealous. Sadly, what else is new.
and if the court accepts this than its time to take a very hard look at the judiciary
This guy is a scumbag, but, that windup was so hilarious I almost want to forgive it
Imagine if Bernie had been elected maybe we'd have Citizen's United being challenged by the supreme court instead of Roe vs Wade
Yeah, but dont say she didnt deserve it. She litterally was pretty much saying if a 16 year old gets raped and pregnant from it then she has to keep and birth that baby still. Essentially saying that what the rapest did was ok.
The short answer is: Because they're not the French. I don't want to beat the drums of chauvinism or anything, but I think it's legitimate to compare the two cultures and maybe think about what ought to be changed in the US to get people to be more reactive and defensive about their civil rights. The USA and the French Republic may have seemed similar at their inception. After all, they were both the result of subjects revolting against a government they perceived was not properly representing them. They're the first modern republics. But there was a significant difference in that the thirteen colonies were only a mere part of a vast empire, located overseas, which was largely left alone once it achieved independence, while the French revolution happened at the very seat of power, in a country surrounded by allies of the monarchy that sought nothing but to reinstate a king on the throne. As such, it was a much more brutal and unstable transition, which saw the nation constantly switch between Republics, empires and monarchies. We even saw foreign occupation as recently as WWII. As a result, it's a much bigger part of our collective consciousness that freedom from tyranny is something that's earned, often through violent struggle, and that inaction can only lead to the nation sliding back into the hands of a few. That theme can be found in our literature, our music, our phrases. It's, perhaps ironically, even proudly displayed by our government themselves. Our history books, up until recently, used to attribute our ancestry to the Gauls (even though we actually owe most of our culture to the Romans), shown in popular culture as an unruly, proud and belligerent people. The French Revolution is also often portrayed as being driven by the masses (even though it mostly benefited the bourgeoisie). The king's severed head is in everyone's mind when it's referred to. Our national anthem speaks of taking up arms flooding the fields with the blood of traitorous soldiers. Which explains why taking to the streets is more of a Pavlovian response here whenever people believe they're getting the short hand of the stick. Protesting is seen as a citizen's duty. Paradoxically, part of the government's decorum and cultural propaganda often ends up biting them in the ass. For instance, Macron's perceived disdain towards proles, and his rather strong-armed interpretation of what executive power entails, yielded him the popular nickname of "Sun King", a reference to Louis the 14th, the pioneer of absolute monarchy. Not exactly a sign of popularity. Another significant aspect is the differences in value. The US favors individual freedom, even when that involves selfish behavior and competition. "E pluribus unum" doesn't seem to translate very well there in practice. The French put more of an accent on collective freedom and equality: It's generally agreed that uniting under a common cause yields much more than seeking profit alone, and there's a strong sense of justice and equal treatment to the point where the very successful are often reviled. This is a historically recurrent sentiment, from the strong union movements which brought us some of the cushiest labor laws the world over, to generational revolt against old-school values in the late 60s. With said history comes a collection of well-honed and efficient tactics that are routinely used to tip the scales. Marches, coordinated strikes, blockades, even sequestration at times. When situations are critical, they may degenerate into rioting and vandalism, which sadly often proves to be more efficient to catch the government's attention. All these things are basically part of the background here, but Americans may not be as used to it, don't know how efficient it can be when well-organised, or simply don't have the know-how and the institutional backing of strong unions and civil rights associations. Which brings us to the last reason - possibly the most important one - why you probably won't ever see a widespread, successful revolt in the US. Americans are trapped. Those who have the most reasons to rise up are also those for whom survival entails being submissive. We have high unemployment benefits and minimum wage, which may not allow the poorest among us to live a comfortable life, but at least a somewhat decent one. Low income Americans have to work two jobs to make ends meet, leaving them no free time to protest. We have strong labor laws that make it extremely difficult to be fired once you land a permanent contract. Americans have states with "at-will" employment. We have low hours-per-week limitations and a high amount of vacation days per year. Americans don't. We have strong unions, ready to have your back and negotiate on your behalf. Americans don't anymore. This leads to opposite feedback loops where strong social protections grants us the possibility of fighting for more, whereas Americans' poor ones puts them in a position of weakness they'll have a very hard time getting out of. I think this is a fairly exhaustive explanation of why something as seemingly innocuous as raising gas prices can trigger huge unrest that lasts for months on end here, whereas in the US civil rights are getting stripped back to what they were more than half a century ago and barely anyone lifts a finger.
Governor signed it. The state of Alabama has been in federal courts constantly for over 120 years because the state government can't stop making illegal laws
Being a shity person doesn't give people the right to just attack you out right
When the Supreme Court gives their approval to over turn Roe vs Wade, I only hope it backfires as well as Prohibition did with years of epidemic violent crime and gang wars that impact everyone to the point that the nation reverses it in 20 years time. However, it’s more likely that this will turn out more like the war on drugs where misinformation and fear mongering results delays decriminalization for 60+ years. buckle up.
I sincerely doubt the mafia and organized crime are going to take over abortion procedures in a black market akin to prohibition.
hopefully those on the fence about universal healthcare might be more persuaded to believe healthcare is a right given how the right has been trying to take it away in all forms.
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