[Breaking] Round Two: Jury does not indict officer in Eric Garner case - Polidicks

I'm starting to wonder if the Grand Jury could have been bribed by someone.

[QUOTE=Riutet;46630599]In a choke for about 18 seconds and he died? Isn't that sort of really unusual?[/QUOTE] The guy had asthma.

I tried discussing this with someone and the argument they kept bringing up was "How else do you expect to bring down a 400 pound man?" and when I explained that he had asthma their rebuttal was "How do the police know that?" I mean, the guy wasn't even attempting to assault anyone, he was swatting away hands. I don't understand how that warrants a choke hold , which is illegal under any circumstances. Even when he was shouting he couldn't breath loud and clear. Of course the rebuttal was still "How else do you take down a 400 pound man?"

[QUOTE=ChicagoMobster;46638199]I tried discussing this with someone and the argument they kept bringing up was "How else do you expect to bring down a 400 pound man?" and when I explained that he had asthma their rebuttal was "How do the police know that?" I mean, the guy wasn't even attempting to assault anyone, he was swatting away hands. I don't understand how that warrants a choke hold , which is illegal under any circumstances. Even when he was shouting he couldn't breath loud and clear. Of course the rebuttal was still "How else do you take down a 400 pound man?"[/QUOTE] I'm not trying to absolve the officer of wrongdoing, but I'm fairly certain the chokehold was not intentional. Most likely he attempted to perform a carotid restraint but was negligent in his execution.

[QUOTE=Apache249;46638248]I'm not trying to absolve the officer of wrongdoing, but I'm fairly certain the chokehold was not intentional. Most likely he attempted to perform a carotid restraint but was negligent in his execution.[/QUOTE] Gimmie a break. If Eric Garner was did the same to the officer he would not be given anything close to that level of trust. I'd love to see the person who only gets charged assault for accidently killing a cop. Too bad this cop got no-true bill on everything.

before im showered in boxes I read that he refused to be handcuffed? Why not just submit and if any civil rights violations are committed let the court deal with it. Just sayin. However choking someone to death over nothing even if he was "resisting" is murder but maybe garner could have prevented it.

[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;46637670]Is there any specific reasons why they don't have any manslaughter charges? People easily get those from causing accidental car accidents.[/QUOTE] Because they're never indicted. You can't get charged if you aren't indicted - at most they'll get some disciplinary action from the PD and nothing else. [editline]4th December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Apache249;46638248]I'm not trying to absolve the officer of wrongdoing, but I'm fairly certain the chokehold was not intentional. Most likely he attempted to perform a carotid restraint but was negligent in his execution.[/QUOTE] Even if it wasn't intentional, he should have been charged with manslaughter. You can unintentionally kill someone and be charged with manslaughter - see any car accident.

[QUOTE=Flameon;46638505]Gimmie a break. If Eric Garner was did the same to the officer he would not be given anything close to that level of trust. I'd love to see the person who only gets charged assault for accidently killing a cop. Too bad this cop got no-true bill on everything.[/QUOTE] Well Eric Garner would have had no business performing a carotid restraint on a cop. [editline]4th December 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=.Isak.;46638801]Even if it wasn't intentional, he should have been charged with manslaughter. You can unintentionally kill someone and be charged with manslaughter - see any car accident.[/QUOTE] I never said he shouldn't have been charged. In fact I specifically said that I'm not trying to absolve him of wrongdoing.

[QUOTE=Apache249;46638831]Well Eric Garner would have had no business performing a carotid restraint on a cop.[/QUOTE] So you think they'd charge him with assault instead of murder? Gimmie a break.

[QUOTE=Flameon;46639676]So you think they'd charge him with assault instead of murder? Gimmie a break.[/QUOTE] Uh no, you're really not getting me, are you? All I'm saying is that the cop had a reason to attempt a carotid restraint on Garner. It's a method of forcing compliance valid and widely used in the LE community. Garner (or any other citizen) hypothetically attempting a carotid restraint on a cop (and possibly accidentally choking him/her to death) is a whole nother issue.

[QUOTE=Apache249;46639783]Uh no, you're really not getting me, are you? All I'm saying is that the cop had a reason to attempt a carotid restraint on Garner. It's a method of forcing compliance valid and widely used in the LE community. Garner (or any other citizen) hypothetically attempting a carotid restraint on a cop (and possibly accidentally choking him/her to death) is a whole nother issue.[/QUOTE] The only difference between a cop doing a carotid restraint on me and me doing one on him is that he has the authority to do so if I'm resisting. If I did one to him it'd be murder. What I'm getting at though is the hypocacy that is going on. The defense that, "Well he didn't try to kill him" would be thrown out the fucking window if in the process of assaulting an officer with a carotid restraint a black dude killed the officer. No one would be saying, "Well he just meant to assault him." They'd be saying he tried to kill him.