Oh and guys, how are you even in the position to say that we should tolerate it. Nearly every single one of my friends has been robbed by muslims, most of them beaten up. My dad got shanked by them and my brother got all his shit stolen by muslims, kind of seeing a pattern here.
And I'm not even being racist, I'm just saying what happened, how else do you want me to put it?
[QUOTE=lukepker;30779877]Oh come on, now you're just being silly, by that logic, you can justify any crime.
[i]If you're willing to suffer the consequences of murder, by all means do it![/i][/QUOTE]
when did i justify any crime?
i said that if someone is going to not learn the language that most people speak in their country it's their loss and their own mistake
how you equate that with murder is far beyond me
[QUOTE=CasualJoe;30779892]Oh and guys, how are you even in the position to say that we should tolerate it. Nearly every single one of my friends has been robbed by muslims, most of them beaten up. My dad got shanked by them and my brother got all his shit stolen by muslims, kind of seeing a pattern here.
And I'm not even being racist, I'm just saying what happened, how else do you want me to put it?[/QUOTE]
So.. you ask all muggers for their religious preferences over there, huh?
[QUOTE=CasualJoe;30779892]Oh and guys, how are you even in the position to say that we should tolerate it. Nearly every single one of my friends has been robbed by muslims, most of them beaten up. My dad got shanked by them and my brother got all his shit stolen by muslims, kind of seeing a pattern here.
And I'm not even being racist, I'm just saying what happened, how else do you want me to put it?[/QUOTE]
ahha, you remind of the skinheads in england who'd make up stories about what happened to them just so they'd have an excuse to beat up some poor pakistani kid on the street
i don't know, why don't you keep talking and see how far the hole goes?
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[QUOTE=MrEndangered;30779919]So.. you ask all muggers for their religious preferences over there, huh?[/QUOTE]
"A GROUP OF WILD MUSLIMS APPEAR..."
[QUOTE=thisispain;30779889]this is what people who think saying racist shit would always say, that anything said about muslims is racist without understand of context as somehow showing that people are over-reacting and it's really not you being racist it's just everyone else is blind or whatever.[/QUOTE]
Wait, are you trying to say im just saying that as an excuse to be racist?
[QUOTE=thisispain;30779863]if you are willing to suffer the consequences of not paying taxes, ie going to jail, by all means do it
[editline]29th June 2011[/editline]
[/QUOTE]
Well I'm sorry, but you are the one suggesting to not pay them, while I stated that we pay taxes, which INCLUDE money for workless people.
[QUOTE=CasualJoe;30779859]So being annoyed is being amazingly dramatic? I think you're the one being dramatic as hell throughout the thread.[/QUOTE]
You guys are the ones with the weird attitudes. You can't say 'You don't understand', it's a similar situation Europe wide.
[QUOTE=lukepker;30779930]Wait, are you trying to say im just saying that as an excuse to be racist?[/QUOTE]
no, i'm saying that is an excuse to be racist.
if you can't see the difference between making a statement about muslim people and saying some dumb shit like "muslim people will stab you if you meet them in the street" then you are being intentionally daft
or
uh
maybe you really are which in case i'm very sorry
Haha, do you really think I'm a thug? Me and my family are the most normal people on earth. You really think that my dad asked to be shanked just because my dog started barking. Oh how my brother was at a ATM and got a knife held to his throat.
[QUOTE=CasualJoe;30779822]Yep, you pay all that.[/QUOTE]
So just to go to school at 14-15 your parents need to directly pay for the school, huh? If you mean it comes out of mummy and daddys taxes, then duh, that's still 'free' education.
[QUOTE=Bokito;30779933]Well I'm sorry, but you are the one suggesting to not pay them, while I stated that we pay taxes, which INCLUDE money for workless people.[/QUOTE]
when did i suggest you don't pay taxes?
i must say, i really expected better english reading comprehension from a country with the 9th highest education in the world
[QUOTE=CasualJoe;30779892]Oh and guys, how are you even in the position to say that we should tolerate it. Nearly every single one of my friends has been robbed by muslims, most of them beaten up. My dad got shanked by them and my brother got all his shit stolen by muslims, kind of seeing a pattern here.
And I'm not even being racist, I'm just saying what happened, how else do you want me to put it?[/QUOTE]
It always depends on the person who's reading it. I don't think this is racist, but you have to remember that it could have been anybody robbing them, not just muslims. A few of my friends who wouldn't harm a fly are muslim, but on the other hand there are people who would rob you if you had anything of value on you too.
[QUOTE=CasualJoe;30779953]Haha, do you really think I'm a thug? Me and my family are the most normal people on earth. You really think that my dad asked to be shanked just because my dog started barking. Oh how my brother was at a ATM and got a knife held to his throat.[/QUOTE]
i think you're a little young and a bit daft, nothing else
[QUOTE=CasualJoe;30779953]Haha, do you really think I'm a thug? Me and my family are the most normal people on earth. You really think that my dad asked to be shanked just because my dog started barking. Oh how my brother was at a ATM and got a knife held to his throat.[/QUOTE]
Answer the question, did they ask for their religious preferences before/after being mugged?
[QUOTE=NinjaWilko;30779961]It always depends on the person who's reading it. I don't think this is racist, but you have to remember that it could have been anybody robbing them, not just muslims. A few of my friends who wouldn't harm a fly are muslim, but on the other hand there are people who would rob you if you had anything of value on you too.[/QUOTE]
Yeah I know, but on the other side. I've never heard or experienced trouble with other types
[QUOTE=thisispain;30779955][b]when did i suggest you don't pay taxes?[/b]
i must say, i really expected better english reading comprehension from a country with the 9th highest education in the world[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=thisispain;30779863]if you are willing to suffer the consequences of not paying taxes, ie going to jail, by all means do it[/quote]
???
orrr, did you mean him specifically?
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;30779966]Answer the question, did they ask for their religious preferences before/after being mugged?[/QUOTE]
i can't wait to hear this one
[QUOTE=thisispain;30779796]
like i said their loss. if they don't wanna learn the language then don't pay them.[/QUOTE]
Right here you did. 'Don't pay them' indirectly means: 'Don't pay taxes' because the some of the money from those taxes goes to workless people. if they don't learn the language and become workless, more of our tax money goes to them.
So what if we replaced "Muslim" with "Middle Eastern"
[QUOTE=lukepker;30779975]???[/QUOTE]
no you see when i said that it's your own fault if you don't learn the language the other guy said that it meant you shouldn't have to go to jail for not paying your taxes, to which i said "no if you don't pay your taxes you suffer the consequences"
taking things out of context in a really pedantic way is a waste of your own time
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[QUOTE=Bokito;30779987]Right here you did. 'Don't pay them' indirectly means: 'Don't pay taxes' because the some of the money from those taxes goes to workless people. if they don't learn the language and become workless, more of our tax money goes to them.[/QUOTE]
then don't pay them
or offer language classes
but either way don't just judge them or be cockheads to them just because they chose to not learn the language
maybe they have a learning disability
[QUOTE=Bokito;30779987]Right here you did. 'Don't pay them' indirectly means: 'Don't pay taxes' because the some of the money from those taxes goes to workless people. if they don't learn the language and become workless, more of our tax money goes to them.[/QUOTE]
Don't they have rules where they refuse to provide them with welfare after a certain time unless they make a decent effort to find a job?
[QUOTE=thisispain;30779999]maybe they have a learning disability[/QUOTE]
Really shitty excuse that only affects a minority of a minority
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;30780014]Really shitty excuse that only affects a minority of a minority[/QUOTE]
it's not an excuse i just don't think you should give a fuck
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;30779989]So what if we replaced "Muslim" with "Middle Eastern"[/QUOTE]
Because it's like saying brown bread is from Africa.
But hey, I'm sure they 'all look alike' to you, eh?
[QUOTE=thisispain;30779999]
then don't pay them
or offer language classes
but either way don't just judge them or be cockheads to them just because they chose to not learn the language
maybe they have a learning disability[/QUOTE]
No, it should be the fucking law to learn a language of the land you're living in. I refuse to speak english to anyone who is here in my country with a Dutch passport, and yet doesn't speak Dutch. If you go to a country on holiday it's ok but please get the fuck out if you cannot integrate with our country. Honestly you have no idea what you're talking about.
[QUOTE=Miskav;30779159]When you're a guy you still need to avoid any group of 2+ muslims as they'll shank you in no time.[/QUOTE]
The pharmacy at the store I used to work at was staffed by two Muslims
We worked in constant fear
Oh wait we didn't because both of them were total bros
[QUOTE=thisispain;30779999]
then don't pay them
or offer language classes
but either way don't just judge them or be cockheads to them just because they chose to not learn the language
maybe they have a learning disability[/QUOTE]
We did for the longest of time. They didn't accept it and continued to only talk in their desertspeak.
Now they have to pay for it themselves and if they try to come in the country to get the Dutch nationality they have to learn the language first (and pay for it themselves). This rule however has so many loopholes like marriage and whatnot that it only affects those who try to get in here on their own.
[editline]29th June 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=koekje4life V2;30780043]No, it should be the fucking law to learn a language of the land you're living in. I refuse to speak english to anyone who is here in my country with a Dutch passport, and yet doesn't speak Dutch. If you go to a country on holiday it's ok but please get the fuck out if you cannot integrate with our country. Honestly you have no idea what you're talking about.[/QUOTE]
This too, There's a reason countries have an official language.
[QUOTE=koekje4life V2;30780043]No, it should be the fucking law to learn a language of the land you're living in. I refuse to speak english to anyone who is here in my country with a Dutch passport, and yet doesn't speak Dutch. If you go to a country on holiday it's ok but please get the fuck out if you cannot integrate with our country. Honestly you have no idea what you're talking about.[/QUOTE]
i don't agree because i think that's a dick thing to do?
did you just throw out some random insult and hope it stuck cuz it really doesn't
why does global politics have to be involved with the shitty way you deal with other human beings
do you check people's passports before every conversation?
do you scream in dutch "I'M SORRY I SHAN'T SPEAK TO YOU PEASANT!"
[editline]29th June 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=WPlayer;30780061]We did for the longest of time. They didn't accept it and continued to only talk in their desertspeak.[/QUOTE]
who's they and we
us and them is a dumb mentality to have, especially about something you don't really know.
i mean do you have statistics or anything to even remotely prove that you aren't just reciting tired old crap.
[QUOTE=thisispain;30779854]we're not talking about higher education btw, he was talking about childeren so we are talking about the compulsory education which i know is definitely free[/QUOTE]
How long have you been in our country?
A week?
Oh you read it on wikipedia!
You're a fucking dumbshit, even elementary school has to be paid for by the people that want their kids to attend it.
Which is required by law! :buddy:
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[QUOTE=thisispain;30779999]
then don't pay them
[/QUOTE]
So you're saying we shouldn't pay taxes due to other people's laziness? Even for people with a learning disorder it should be possible to learn a language when you have [u]10 years[/u]
And don't ask me for source, there's a thing as 'your own experience'.
[QUOTE=NinjaWilko;30780013]Don't they have rules where they refuse to provide them with welfare after a certain time unless they make a decent effort to find a job?[/QUOTE]
Yes, but you have no idea how easy it is to fake that. For example:
-Find job
-Suck horribly at it
-Get fired, or not even hired
-Sit on your ass for another 6 months
-Repeat
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