• Dutch MPs Vote to Ban Religious Slaughter
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[QUOTE=thisispain;30780709]no i have brown eyes[/QUOTE] I forgot to add 'female' :geno:
Hey OP are you 12, and did you and the people who rated this winner even read the article past the title? Because going "hurr I hate how much power religion has, I'm soo cool man " before reading the article you would see it has nothing to do with power of religion. It is politicians wanting to ban Jews following their religious practices of killing animals, even if its passed it doesn't change religious power at all, it just changed some the way jews are allowed to kill animals. Also did you just bold the part where it says that Christians are opposed to it because you think it's against them or cool or something, because if you would read the article they are against it because they are tolerable of other religions (like people are supposed to be and not like the dumb ass Christians in america that most morons like you base your hate on) and if the Dutch are supposed to be tolerant then the law makes no sense. Basically you are against religions being in power but this law doesn't make them any less in power at all, it just takes away peoples freedom to practice their own religion freely without bothering anyone else, thus not taking away power from a religion, your giving more power to the government to take away peoples freedom. So while your going "guyz fuck religion XD, to much power go dutch here yeah" your being a hypocrite because your supporting not the taking away of religious power but the gaining of government power to take away peoples freedom. So please read the article next time you dumb ass because the only thing your doing is making your self look like a moron for not reading the article you posted besides for the reason "woah man I'm soo coolz fukz religion XD"
I think our liberal and pluralistic image is more important than banning an method of slaughtering that, if done correctly, shouldn't be much more worse than normal slaughtering. I think it's a kind of hypocrisy too, If we go on with this stuff slaughtering animals should be banned as a whole, because they'll always suffer to some degree.
[QUOTE=Stopper;30780736]I forgot to add 'female' :geno:[/QUOTE] it's okay i want you to know that even though you hate gypsies and think i have a big nose, we can still be friends
[QUOTE=bobsynergy;30780743]Hey OP are you 12, and did you and the people who rated this winner even read the article past the title? Because going "hurr I hate how much power religion has, I'm soo cool man " before reading the article you would see it has nothing to do with power of religion. It is politicians wanting to ban Jews following their religious practices of killing animals, even if its passed it doesn't change religious power at all, it just changed some the way jews are allowed to kill animals. Also did you just bold the part where it says that Christians are opposed to it because you think it's against them or cool or something, because if you would read the article they are against it because they are tolerable of other religions (like people are supposed to be and not like the dumb ass Christians in america that most morons like you base your hate on) and if the Dutch are supposed to be tolerant then the law makes no sense. Basically you are against religions being in power but this law doesn't make them any less in power at all, it just takes away peoples freedom to practice their own religion freely without bothering anyone else, thus not taking away power from a religion, your giving more power to the government to take away peoples freedom. So while your going "guyz fuck religion XD, to much power go dutch here yeah" your being a hypocrite because your supporting not the taking away of religious power but the gaining of government power to take away peoples freedom. So please read the article next time you dumb ass because the only thing your doing is making your self look like a moron for not reading the article you posted besides for the reason "woah man I'm soo coolz fukz religion XD"[/QUOTE] How the fuck did you manage to miss this part: 'Animal rights over religious rights'.
Why can't we just all get along Religious rights are outdated and below animal rights
[QUOTE=thisispain;30780757]it's okay i want you to know that even though you hate gypsies and think i have a big nose, we can still be friends[/QUOTE] I'd like to meet you in person. I've never seen a beautiful, blond troll. With a big nose. [editline]29th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=G-foxisus;30780788]Why can't we just all get along[/QUOTE] Human nature.
[QUOTE=Stopper;30780791]I'd like to meet you in person. I've never seen a beautiful, blond troll.[/QUOTE] you have a nose fetish?
[QUOTE=thisispain;30780802]you have a nose fetish?[/QUOTE] I just had to google that. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nose_fetishism[/url] [quote]The fetish may manifest itself in a desire for actual physical contact and interaction, or specific fantasies such as the desire to penetrate the nostrils.[/quote] :geno:
[QUOTE=Stopper;30780821]I just had to google that. [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nose_fetishism[/url] :geno:[/QUOTE] you wanna penetrate my nostrils (bhahhaah)
You both are so hot together. ~fap~
[QUOTE=Stopper;30780774]How the fuck did you manage to miss this part: 'Animal rights over religious rights'.[/QUOTE] No I didn't miss it, your point? it's just because they don't want animals to die like that, it doesn't mean that animals will be able to drive cars and kick religious people out of their homes and take them for shelter or given the right to vote. It's just saying that even though it's dealing with a religion that animals shouldn't be treated inhumanly and that their right to not be killed inhumanly out weighs the right of Jews to kill them for religious tradition.
[QUOTE=bobsynergy;30780850]No I didn't miss it, your point? it's just because they don't want animals to die like that, it doesn't mean that animals will be able to drive cars and kick religious people out of their homes and take them for shelter or given the right to vote. It's just saying that even though it's dealing with a religion that animals shouldn't be treated inhumanly and that their right to not be killed inhumanly out weighs the right of Jews to kill them for religious tradition.[/QUOTE] Yes, that is basically the point. That's what the whole thing is about.
[QUOTE=Stopper;30780875]Yes, that is basically the point. That's what the whole thing is about.[/QUOTE] Yes but my post was about the OP thinking that whole religions lose power over this when it has nothing to do with a power of a religion just the dutch government banning that one tradition of killing animals in the country. While the OP thinks that the law has something to do with getting rid of total power of religion or something since he is screaming like a little girl in the first page about this.
[QUOTE=bobsynergy;30780925]Yes but my post was about the OP thinking that whole religions lose power over this when it has nothing to do with a power of a religion just the dutch government banning that one tradition of killing animals in the country. While the OP thinks that the law has something to do with getting rid of total power of religion or something since he is screaming like a little girl in the first page about this.[/QUOTE] yeah i was gonna say that but i already took the anti-foreigner approach so that ship sailed
[QUOTE=bobsynergy;30780925]Yes but my post was about the OP thinking that whole religions lose power over this when it has nothing to do with a power of a religion just the dutch government banning that one tradition of killing animals in the country. While the OP thinks that the law has something to do with getting rid of total power of religion or something since he is screaming like a little girl in the first page about this.[/QUOTE] So, you're just attacking the OP then, not the thread topic. Carry on then.
[QUOTE=valkery;30778945]Sorry, I just get pissed at how much power religion still has in this world. When stuff like this happens, I get overly happy.[/QUOTE] Yeah bro, stick it to the man! Fuck religion! fuck your overreligious parents who made you go to church every sunday for all of an hour! :emo:
I think that the ban on religous slaughter is nonsense. The Jews and muslim-society who practice this kind of slaughter will not kill the animal in more humane ways. They'll just get the (correctly slaughtered) meat from somewhere else. They will not change their religious views and practices just because it's prohibited by law. There will not be less religious slaughtered animals, there'll just be less religous slaughtered animals in Holland. Just feed them pork while they're at it. Intolerholland.
[QUOTE=Strongbad;30780948]Yeah bro, stick it to the man! Fuck religion! fuck your overreligious parents who made you go to church every sunday for all of an hour! :emo:[/QUOTE] I prefer not to be forced to believe in something. As much as his approach was juvenile, its still better than yours. [editline]29th June 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Eli_r;30780990]I think that the ban on religous slaughter is nonsense. The Jews and muslim-society who practice this kind of slaughter will not kill the animal in more humane ways. They'll just get the (correctly slaughtered) meat from somewhere else. They will not change their religious views and practices just because it's prohibited by law. There will not be less religious slaughtered animals, there'll just be less religous slaughtered animals in Holland. Just feed them pork while they're at it. Intolerholland.[/QUOTE] Hello? That's the point. They're free to get the 'correctly slaughtered' meat - nobody wants them to change their beliefs.
I guess that's why kosher hot dogs taste so good. They're made with the taste of suffering and agony. :v:
Good, kosher slaughter methods are incredibly inhumane.
[QUOTE=Stopper;30781050]Hello? That's the point. They're free to get the 'correctly slaughtered' meat - nobody wants them to change their beliefs.[/QUOTE] Yeah but that's the problem, they're not free to "correctly" slaugther the animals because religious slaughtering is now banned.
Seems a bit hypocritical. If you're going to ban religious slaughter because it's inhumane, why not ban industrial slaughter, because it's not more humane than religious slaughter.
[quote] "Older Jews are frightened and wonder what the next law will be that limits their religious life. The youth are openly asking whether they still have a future that they can or want to build in the Netherlands," the letter continued. [/quote] Heh bye, will miss you.
I don't see how any of this is racist. Other races come to the country, they should adapt to act like the people in that country. It's more of an anti-religion law, but I don't see the problem in that. People shouldn't be allowed to slaughter animals just because some ancient text told them to.
Good, halal and kosher slaughter are horrible. Not that factory farming isn't...
What the fuck is wrong with the Dutch people in this thread? Like 90% of you with the Dutch flag have been xenophobic/racist. :colbert: I live in a small town in the fucking South and we get tons of Burmese refugees. A lot of them went to my school and maybe 10% of them spoke any sort of understandable English and no one here gives a fuck. After going through my yearbook the number is about 11%, more than the Muslims in the Netherlands. The most that happens is that someone will make a comment about some of their names which do look strange when converted into the Latin alphabet (like a bunch have one letter names, etc.) but that's it. Not once have I heard anyone say they should learn English or get the fuck out because they know it's difficult to and pretty much impossible to do in a short period of time. They are attempting to learn it as well. No one ever says they should get the fuck out of the country because they'll get called racist. No local politician is campaigning on the promise to kick out the Burmese or that they should be forced to learn English. Like I said before this is the fucking South we're talking about here, historically a very tolerant region. Assimilation takes time. Xenophobes make the same old tired arguments about how they refuse to learn the language of the new country blah blah blah. It takes generations for that to happen, always has. First generation will never be fully but as their children's children grow up they will be. Let's take the U.S. as an example. First it was the Germans. People said that the U.S. would be speaking German due to large numbers of immigrants. Didn't fucking happen. It was the same fucking way with Italians, Greeks, Chinese, Japanese, Jews, Russians, etc. ad infinitum. Now it's the Mexicans who won't assimilate. Same old shit. Now that the pure white Netherlands get a whopping 5% Muslim population, they go batshit crazy racist saying all the brown people are going to drown out their master race and language (which is just a bastardized form of German anyway). Why the fuck do you care so damn much? It's only 5% anyway you pussies, get the fuck over it. But kosher/halal are fucking barbaric ancient customs just like circumcision, but I'm not sure a ban was necessary.
Are you people serious? You're essentially making being Jewish or Muslim impossible in the Netherlands because their method of animal slaughter makes you just the slightest bit more squeamish than the industrial method? Either way you are fucking killing it horribly so what's the actual motivation here huh? If they can't prepare their foods in the ways they are proscribed to they essentially can't eat anything in your country. Don't get me wrong I'm about at anti-religious as it gets but this whole thing stinks of Antisemitism and Islamophobia. You can do whatever you want to keep religious doctrine out of government, schools, so have you, but to restrict individuals private practice of it because their animal slaughter methods come across as "a bit harsh" to you is just fucking sick. I know Facepunch is known for it's blatant onset of sympathy for every animal ever but stop using that as cover for xenophobia or some sick sense of anti-religious accomplishment.
PETA might support this however. Anything PETA supports, we should go against
[QUOTE=DanRatherman;30782451]Are you people serious? You're essentially making being Jewish or Muslim impossible in the Netherlands because their method of animal slaughter makes you just the slightest bit more squeamish than the industrial method? Either way you are fucking killing it horribly so what's the actual motivation here huh? If they can't prepare their foods in the ways they are proscribed to they essentially can't eat anything in your country. Don't get me wrong I'm about at anti-religious as it gets but this whole thing stinks of Antisemitism and Islamophobia. You can do whatever you want to keep religious doctrine out of government, schools, so have you, but to restrict individuals private practice of it because their animal slaughter methods come across as "a bit harsh" to you is just fucking sick. I know Facepunch is known for it's blatant onset of sympathy for every animal ever but stop using that as cover for xenophobia or some sick sense of anti-religious accomplishment.[/QUOTE] They will just have to get the blood out of the animals another, more humane way. Also boasting about being anti-religious is not good, it just shows you're intolerant.
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