Federal Government Reaffirms ‘Flat Earth’ Position Regarding Medical Cannabis - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Upgrade123;31291610]Well gee, no shit its chemistry isn't well known, you pretty much banned research on it. [editline]23rd July 2011[/editline] Fuck joints, use a vaporizer.[/QUOTE] Would love to see a source for "they pretty much banned research"

[QUOTE=Icedshot;31291801]Would love to see a source for "they pretty much banned research"[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/15/us/after-two-decade-halt-marijuana-research-is-set.html[/url] [editline]23rd July 2011[/editline] Two decades. [editline]23rd July 2011[/editline] Granted, that was 2001. But still, two decades is a long time to go without research

Meanwhile, amphetamines are widely distributed to school children to combat "ADHD"

fuck this shit i don't even know why i read the thread this just makes me fucking rage. Fuck you government!

[QUOTE=Upgrade123;31291871][url]http://www.nytimes.com/2001/12/15/us/after-two-decade-halt-marijuana-research-is-set.html[/url] [editline]23rd July 2011[/editline] Two decades. [editline]23rd July 2011[/editline] Granted, that was 2001. But still, two decades is a long time to go without research[/QUOTE] Erm. So what you are saying is that there has been 10 years of allowed research now, thats hardly banned? [editline]23rd July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Raznor;31292133]Meanwhile, amphetamines are widely distributed to school children to combat "ADHD"[/QUOTE] Just because one drug may or may not have poor evidence behind its efficacy at what it does, doesnt mean we should be allowing other drugs with more poor (incomplete is the key word) evidence as to whether it works or not [editline]23rd July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=confinedUser;31292196]fuck this shit i don't even know why i read the thread this just makes me fucking rage. Fuck you government![/QUOTE] You do realise, that the evidence currently as to whether or not cannabis is effective for certain things is severely limited and contradictory right? Its hardly them going "hurr durr we hate drugs", its them going "there isnt good enough research as to whether or not this helps people, so no not now"

Then they should fund research.

[QUOTE=Whats This?v4;31296823]Then they should fund research.[/QUOTE] Who? The people who made this decision? That certainly isnt their purpose The government shouldnt either, because why cannabis, why not something else? There are probably a lot of drugs which are promising, but it isnt their responsibility to investigate all of them, especially when they are already short of money. Yes, its a tragedy that many potentially good drugs are missed because of the big pharma companies, but unless someone wants to set up a large monetary fund to finance this sort of thing, its impractical. I dont see how you think thats a reasonable solution just because you, and 95% of the people on this forum want cannabis to be good for you. What you, and everyone else should be waiting for is the accumulation of studies and such to get to the point where several, large, critical reviews can be done of all of the available evidence, and for it to show a strong benefit (or mild for diseases with no other treatment) in favour of cannabis. Currently, there is no strong compelling evidence either way.

[QUOTE=Icedshot;31297974]Who? The people who made this decision? That certainly isnt their purpose The government shouldnt either, because why cannabis, why not something else? There are probably a lot of drugs which are promising, but it isnt their responsibility to investigate all of them, especially when they are already short of money. Yes, its a tragedy that many potentially good drugs are missed because of the big pharma companies, but unless someone wants to set up a large monetary fund to finance this sort of thing, its impractical. I dont see how you think thats a reasonable solution just because you, and 95% of the people on this forum want cannabis to be good for you. What you, and everyone else should be waiting for is the accumulation of studies and such to get to the point where several, large, critical reviews can be done of all of the available evidence, and for it to show a strong benefit (or mild for diseases with no other treatment) in favour of cannabis. Currently, there is no strong compelling evidence either way.[/QUOTE] If there were truly no strong compelling evidence for the medical benefits of cannabis, it would not have been legalized in 15 states and there wouldn't be dozens/hundreds of patient success stories. The evidence is quite there, you're just not looking for it.

[QUOTE=Icedshot;31297974]Who? The people who made this decision? That certainly isnt their purpose The government shouldnt either, because why cannabis, why not something else? There are probably a lot of drugs which are promising, but it isnt their responsibility to investigate all of them, especially when they are already short of money. Yes, its a tragedy that many potentially good drugs are missed because of the big pharma companies, but unless someone wants to set up a large monetary fund to finance this sort of thing, its impractical. I dont see how you think thats a reasonable solution just because you, and 95% of the people on this forum want cannabis to be good for you. What you, and everyone else should be waiting for is the accumulation of studies and such to get to the point where several, large, critical reviews can be done of all of the available evidence, and for it to show a strong benefit (or mild for diseases with no other treatment) in favour of cannabis. Currently, there is no strong compelling evidence either way.[/QUOTE] I'm not really in a position to be saying they should fund the research of one drug over another, but cannabis is so widely used that it seems like common sense we should learn more about it. instead of pouring billions into fighting cannabis use the government should be putting money into researching it

[QUOTE=SgtCr4zyAlt;31298086]If there were truly no strong compelling evidence for the medical benefits of cannabis, it would not have been legalized in 15 states and there wouldn't be dozens/hundreds of patient success stories. The evidence is quite there, you're just not looking for it.[/QUOTE] Oh really? Im not looking for the evidence? I invite you to look here [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1106966-If-you-are-still-unsure-about-Cannabis-this-will-finally-clear-it-all-up-for-you...-With-Science!?p=31141540&highlight=#post31141540[/url] and here [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1106966-If-you-are-still-unsure-about-Cannabis-this-will-finally-clear-it-all-up-for-you...-With-Science!?p=31142772&highlight=#post31142772[/url] I definitely [b]have[/b] had a look at the evidence, and you clearly havent. There are dozens of patient success stories for everything ranging from operations under saline water on conscious patients, reductions in gastric convulsions when you give people crap to make it worse, and homoeopathy. Please dont tell me homoeopathy works because there are dozens of success stories. Anecdotal evidence is useful for spotting when there might be a relationship between this and that, but you absolutely cant use it as solid proof. [editline]24th July 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Whats This?v4;31298364]I'm not really in a position to be saying they should fund the research of one drug over another, but cannabis is so widely used that it seems like common sense we should learn more about it. instead of pouring billions into fighting cannabis use the government should be putting money into researching it[/QUOTE] Thats fair enough, the whole war on cannabis is completely ridiculous. I agree, it should be researched, and then a proper conclusion should be reached. But i think its very difficult for the government to justify researching something like cannabis, rather than some other form of life saving drug, especially with the status that it has.