Petition going on in San Francisco to ban male circumcision - Polidicks

I love being circumsized. Enjoy your various cheeses.

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_effects_of_circumcision#Summary_of_research_findings[/url] According to the scientific studies conducted by various people all over the world who specialize in this kind of pointless (albeit, entertaining and I suppose somewhat useful when the time comes) crap, there is little to no difference between a circumcised and uncircumcised person's sex drive, erectile function, ejaculation, sensations, and overall satisfaction. I'd note, however, in the overall satisfaction category, circumcised participants described their experiences as being "Better after circumcision" or "Improved" or simply "Satisfied". Why is Facepunch arguing over this anyway? I know I'm really tardy to the party... but... for FUCKS SAKE...

Anyone who bans circumcision is a fucking retard, this is why San Fran is the shittiest place on earth. BAWW THE BABY NEEDS EXTRA FLABBY SKIN TO GET INFECTED ON HIS DICK Boo hoo, thank god I don't live in this shithole.

[QUOTE=Handsome Pete;29642390]Apparently uncircumcised men are found more pleasurable to BOTH sexes during intercourse. I should be put down by this with my circumcised penis, but I'm not. I just feel like I've given a great gift because I'm the only person my girlfriend's ever had sex with, and some day later in her life she'll fuck a guy with an uncut dick and will have her mind blown. She'll thank me some day. [editline]5th May 2011[/editline] by the way don't argue about the pain the babies feel. obviously they won't be remembering shit, i don't. still there's those other bunch of ethical problems there[/QUOTE] Dicks are really more important on how you use them rather than the actual qualities of them, and a huge part of sex is psychological. Personally, circumcised or uncircumcised feel about the same to me, I'm bi, I've taken both, rate me gaybow if you must, and they both feel pretty good. Anecdotal? Gross? TMI? Yes. There's the downside of too much pleasure and prematurity with uncut but you feel amazing, and with cut you have "less pleasure" but you last longer. I still think it's who's using the dick that matters more than anything.

San Francisco once again trying to ban things it doesn't like instead of informing people of the alternatives.

[QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29642751]San Francisco once again trying to ban things it doesn't like instead of informing people of the alternatives.[/QUOTE] It will slide off into the ocean someday. And there's no alternative but to evacuate or die for when that day comes.

[QUOTE=Klammyxxl;29640949]Haha ITT argue about penises. Honestly, who cares if you've got skin on your dick? If parents want to do it, then let them do it. It doesn't have any sort of traumatic effects on the children.[/QUOTE] scientists have found that circumcision has psychological effects on babies. studies on circumcised newborns have shown that circumcision effects how the baby trusts their parents and how they can bond with eachother. circumcision is a traumatizing event for a newborn just out of the womb, and its no surprise that it makes them afraid of their caregivers.

[QUOTE=Fart Commander;29643304]scientists have found that circumcision has psychological effects on babies. studies on circumcised newborns have shown that circumcision effects how the baby trusts their parents and how they can bond with eachother. circumcision is a traumatizing event for a newborn just out of the womb, and its no surprise that it makes them afraid of their caregivers.[/QUOTE] can I have the source on that seriously

[QUOTE=cagafuego88;29642620]Fuck this fucking debate it doesn't matter. Let people do their own shit.[/QUOTE] Not a valid argument if they're doing their own shit to other people who have no say in the matter. [QUOTE=cagafuego88;29642620]Just get over yourselves and move on to more important topics, Jesus Christ, you guys act like you're these big white knights protecting babies or something. It's a practice that has lasted hundreds of years, and the reasons aren't just religious...[/QUOTE] No, the reason's aren't just religious, but the very few reasons that aren't related to religion and tradition were either proven wrong or no longer apply in modern medicine. [QUOTE=cagafuego88;29642620]Sensitivity is relative and so is aesthetic. Seriously.[/QUOTE] Actually sensitivity is not relative, and obviously aesthetics have nothing to do with this law, that's just silly. [QUOTE=cagafuego88;29642620]Arguing about dicks on the internet? And little boys' dicks at that? That is a concerning thing if I've ever seen one...[/QUOTE] I'm sorry if your mommy told you that your bathing suit area is a no-no topic, but believe it or not laws dealing with genitalia need to exist, and therefore need to be discussed. Also, implying we're pedophiles because we are talking about a moral and medical issue? Classy. [b]TL:DR - Sit down and shut up.[/b]

[QUOTE=Benstokes;29643735] I'm sorry if your mommy told you that your bathing suit area is a no-no topic, but believe it or not laws dealing with genitalia need to exist, and therefore need to be discussed. Also, implying we're pedophiles because we are talking about a moral and medical issue? Classy.[/QUOTE] Why not inform the parents about the consequences of circumcision? Surely if you educate parents of how circumcision is detrimental for your child you wouldn't have to ban it.

I've been circumcised. DUN DUNN DUNNN! That means my parents hate me and want to hurt my social status and break me psychologically! OH NO! [/sarcasm] Seriously, I could honestly be giving less of a damn right now. It lets me make weird conversation stoppers: Guy 1: "Man, I broke my nose tripping down the stairs!" Guy 2: "Oh yeah? I broke my leg fighting a crocodile!" Me: "Oh yeah? I had part of my dick lopped off!" Guy 1&2: :geno:

circumcision lowers the chance of STDs

[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;29645917]circumcision lowers the chance of STDs[/QUOTE] Alright, source please.

[QUOTE=OrionChronicles;29645917]circumcision lowers the chance of STDs[/QUOTE] So does a $1 condom. The condom seems like the better choice.

[QUOTE=Zillamaster55;29646003]Alright, source please.[/QUOTE] [url]http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15593753/ns/health-mens_health/t/circumcision-cuts-std-risk-major-study-shows/[/url] The findings of a 25-year study, just so you know ahead of time. [url]http://men.webmd.com/news/20090325/circumcision-cuts-stds[/url] [url]http://www.medpagetoday.com/InfectiousDisease/STDs/24217[/url] [url]http://sti.bmj.com/content/82/2/101.full[/url]

[QUOTE=Benstokes;29643735]Not a valid argument if they're doing their own shit to other people who have no say in the matter. No, the reason's aren't just religious, but the very few reasons that aren't related to religion and tradition were either proven wrong or no longer apply in modern medicine. Actually sensitivity is not relative, and obviously aesthetics have nothing to do with this law, that's just silly. I'm sorry if your mommy told you that your bathing suit area is a no-no topic, but believe it or not laws dealing with genitalia need to exist, and therefore need to be discussed. Also, implying we're pedophiles because we are talking about a moral and medical issue? Classy. [b]TL:DR - Sit down and shut up.[/b][/QUOTE] Uh, there are still valid medical reasons today, it's not entirely outdated so, uh, no. And sensitivity is entirely relative, how can you say you can objectively describe levels of pain? People experience them differently, yeah, we're all very similar, but we don't experience somethings the same. And frankly, if my dick was any more sensitive, I couldn't handle it. And I'm cut.

uncircumsized looks fucking gross and smells like shit.

[QUOTE=Fart Commander;29643304]scientists have found that circumcision has psychological effects on babies. studies on circumcised newborns have shown that circumcision effects how the baby trusts their parents and how they can bond with eachother. circumcision is a traumatizing event for a newborn just out of the womb, and its no surprise that it makes them afraid of their caregivers.[/QUOTE] That's so weird, the doctors sliced off part of my dick when I was a baby too, and yet I'm not afraid of my parents. [QUOTE=Canuhearme?;29643992]Why not inform the parents about the consequences of circumcision? Surely if you educate parents of how circumcision is detrimental for your child you wouldn't have to ban it.[/QUOTE] Canuhearme is 100% right, instead of banning circumcision maybe you should just inform parents of the risks and let them go on with their decision. It's the same problem with all of San Francisco's other terrible laws, it's a perfect case of ignorance is bliss. Rather than being educated on the topic at hand, you just ban it because there's a possibility that some harm could come from it.

[QUOTE=Blue Meanie;29646840]uncircumsized looks fucking gross and smells like shit.[/QUOTE] Im sorry but how would that affect smell?

How about no. Let people do what they want.

consider that banning circumcision carries with it the same problem of banning just about anything else, that it would lead a lot of people, specifically people who are required by their faiths to do so, to seek out illegal ways to do it which would cause: -organized crime -gruesome do-it-yourself dick-cutting mishaps Because of this I'd say that circumcising babies is a [i]dick[/i] move (heh) but banning/prohibiting/criminalizing it would do far more harm than good. Just throw a little money at informative pamphlets re: circumcision in hospitals and some gross PSA ads and call it a day.

There is also a benefit to circumcision. They did a study and found that females who had sexual partners that were circumcised had a lesser risk of developing cervical cancer. Whether you agree with it or not, this is another reason why I hate this planet. We shouldn't have laws against this or abortion. Other people don't have a right to tell others what to do based on opinion. There is no reason that gays and lesbians can't get married, because it is opinion whether or not people agree with it. Same with this shit. Some people do it for faith reasons, some do it for medical benefits and some don't do it because they don't see a purpose to. Let people make their own choices.

[QUOTE=Second-gear-of-mgear;29484406]I'm glad I'm circumcised. Uncut dicks look like sea cucumbers and are so ashamed of themselves that they try to make it seem like it looks good. Every chick that I know prefers cut. Plus that flap of skin is one less thing to get cancer on.[/QUOTE] Better get your arms and legs amputated they can get cancer too edit: Guess I was pretty reactionary my personal feeling is cutting off something without someones permission that does not easily grow back is not very nice

[QUOTE=cjone2;29650042]Better get your arms and legs amputated they can get cancer too[/QUOTE] Bad analogy since arms and legs are actually useful and your foreskin isn't

[QUOTE=Squad;29648783]We shouldn't have laws against this or abortion. Other people don't have a right to tell others what to do based on opinion.[/QUOTE] Well it's not [I]quite[/I] the same, given in an abortion the woman is the one making the choice, and getting the abortion, but in circumcision the parents are the ones making the choice, and the baby is the one getting affected.

This is retarded. Talk about forcing your beliefs on others. If people want to get circumcised, or circumcise their children, fucking let them you nutjobs. I, personally, would rather be circumcised than uncircumcised. Uncut dicks look like fucking sand worms and I don't particularly want to think of Dune when I see my dick.

[QUOTE=Megafanx13;29652480]Well it's not [I]quite[/I] the same, given in an abortion the woman is the one making the choice, and getting the abortion, but in circumcision the parents are the ones making the choice, and the baby is the one getting affected.[/QUOTE] So you're saying the baby is in no way affected during abortion?

Always count on Facepunch to talk about dicks.

[QUOTE=TheMourge;29647017]How about no. Let people do what they want.[/QUOTE] I want to tattoo and pierce my baby.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;29652754]So you're saying the baby is in no way affected during abortion?[/QUOTE] Something that is not and would never be alive (assuming that the abortion does take place) is very different from me who is affected by a choice I had nothing to do with (even though it's not a big deal to me). To be fair I don't think comparing this to abortion is really all that valid anyways. [editline]6th May 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=johan_sm;29652949]I want to tattoo and pierce my baby.[/QUOTE] Give him a good tan and male enhancement pills too.