Petition going on in San Francisco to ban male circumcision - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Master117;29490107]I disagreed because by the time an individual is able to make a decision about this, surgery to remove the foreskin becomes very risky and extremely painful. As a newborn, the risks are minimal as is the pain.[/QUOTE] So basically it should never be done because the danger outweighs the benefits unless you have phimosis.

I thought circumcision in America was more of a general western tradition, not pertaining to any one religion? I'm circumcised, and my Dad is an Atheist. But to be honest, a baby has no rights, and to take that decision away from the parents is nonsensical. Also, you guys are making sound worse than it really is. It's a simple surgical procedure, that leaves no residual pain. I don't even remember mine.

[QUOTE=5killer;29490143]I thought circumcision in America was more of a general western tradition, not pertaining to any one religion? I'm circumcised, and my Dad is an Atheist. But to be honest, a baby has no rights, and to take that decision away from the parents is nonsensical. Also, you guys are making sound worse than it really is. It's a simple surgical procedure, that leaves no residual pain. I don't even remember mine.[/QUOTE] If I tattooed a dick on your forehead when you were a child, you wouldn't remember the pain either. But that doesn't matter.

[QUOTE=Sanius;29490165]If I tattooed a dick on your forehead when you were a child, you wouldn't remember the pain either. But that doesn't matter.[/QUOTE] Are you going to make dumb posts or contribute to the argument?

[QUOTE=5killer;29490143]a baby has no rights[/QUOTE] You're incorrect At the moment of birth a baby is considered a person by law, it's why smothering a baby in its crib is murder and not destruction of property or something

[QUOTE=5killer;29490178]Are you going to make dumb posts or contribute to the argument?[/QUOTE] Your post was pretty dumb and I am actually making a contribution.

Holy fuck this argument is retarded. Why the fuck would you limit choices? People have the fucking choice to circumsize their babies or not, and taking that away is stupid. You don't actually have to circumsize your child, and if religious people want to that is fine for them. There is no reason they should not be able to do what they believe in. And this really isn't a fucking big deal because cut or uncut is not a big deal. If you are cut, I doubt you are really mourning the loss of your foreskin. If you are uncut, I really doubt you would go through that pain now to get rid of it even if you didn't like it. Babies do not have recollections of pain. You are not traumatized by the event, and nothing negative comes from it being done. Get the fuck over it.

Memo to Jewish people: I understand that back in the desert, thousands of years ago, things like circumcising babies and not eating pork had some positive ramifications. Fortunately, we live in a modern society with things like showers and preservatives. Please understand that these religious practices are just codified cultural practices which are utterly outdated, and not following them does not detract from following the Torah.

[QUOTE=Earthen;29484399]You lose a lot of sensitivity if you get your dick circumcised.[/QUOTE] that explains the lack of that annoying feeling that i used to feel when i was a kid

[QUOTE=Dr Magnusson;29488589]How would you feel about parents having the right to get their babies's ears, lips or bellybuttons pierced, or giving them a full-body tribal tattoo? Wouldn't it be wonderful if parents could choose for their children to have massive swastikas on their backs, or pierced dicks. Why stop there, why give them the right to have their babies undergo major cosmetic surgery. We're in the 21st century, why should nature decide when children are old enough to have D-cups? I took it a little far, but the essence of it is that the only reason you can get your baby boy circumcised, is because it's a religious thing. And religious tradition should not be considered a valid excuse, or explanation for any activity.[/QUOTE] A huge amount of babies have their ears pierced at birth, and if you're under 18 your parents have to consent for anything else, so they pretty much DO do all of that if a minor wants one and the parent doesn't see a problem.

[QUOTE=Sanius;29490209]Your post was pretty dumb and I am actually making a contribution.[/QUOTE] Explain how my post was dumb? [QUOTE=Zeke129;29490200]You're incorrect At the moment of birth a baby is considered a person by law, it's why smothering a baby in its crib is murder and not destruction of property or something[/QUOTE] I know it is considered a person, but it can not make decisions about its life. Same thing with animals. Smothering a dog is illegal, but a dog has no rights in the sense that it can make decisions. My point is, banning it doesn't solve anything, except give some people peace of mind.

[QUOTE=Nerts;29487433]How does anyone manage this anyway, I was under the impression that people wear underwear. [editline]28th April 2011[/editline] You do realise that foreskin pulls back?[/QUOTE] You do reali[b]z[/b]e that it was a joke about how an uncircumcised dick looks?

[QUOTE=Trogdon;29490293] Why the fuck would you limit choices? People have the fucking choice to circumsize their babies or not, and taking that away is stupid. You don't actually have to circumsize your child, and if religious people want to that is fine for them. There is no reason they should not be able to do what they believe in.[/QUOTE] What a dangerous stance to take

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[QUOTE=CjienX;29490374]You do reali[b]z[/b]e that it was a joke about how an uncircumcised dick looks?[/QUOTE] Both spellings are acceptable

[QUOTE=Trogdon;29490293] And this really isn't a fucking big deal because cut or uncut is not a big deal. If you are cut, I doubt you are really mourning the loss of your foreskin. If you are uncut, I really doubt you would go through that pain now to get rid of it even if you didn't like it. Babies do not have recollections of pain. You are not traumatized by the event, and nothing negative comes from it being done. Get the fuck over it.[/QUOTE] No, we regulate choices. We can abort [B]fetuses[/B], but not [B]babies[/B]. On the same grounds that people are unable to perform unnecessary medical procedures on children, so too should unnecessary and outdated religious medical procedures. Saying that it 'doesn't matter' because they don't feel pain is horseshit, and under that principle, you can justify anything as long as you ensure that the victim is unable to remember the events.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;29490391]What a dangerous stance to take[/QUOTE] I am not for the limiting of choices in any situation. Especially when you take into account that the bill infringes of constitutional rights.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;29490407]Both spellings are acceptable[/QUOTE] Technically, "realize" is a bastardization of "realise." So technically CjienX is dumb.

[QUOTE=CjienX;29490374]You do reali[b]z[/b]e that it was a joke about how an uncircumcised dick looks?[/QUOTE] Except it doesn't look like that when erect. Colo[b]u[/b]r, favo[b]u[/b]rite, alumin[b]iu[/b]m.

[QUOTE=Matrix374;29490395]yeah i saw way too much anteaters when searching for some blowjob vids[/QUOTE] Feels good man, feels good.

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[QUOTE=Trogdon;29490449]I am not for the limiting of choices in any situation. Especially when you take into account that the bill infringes of constitutional rights.[/QUOTE] So if a parent wants to tattoo their baby you'd be fine with it?

[QUOTE=Contag;29490419]No, we regulate choices. We can abort [B]fetuses[/B], but not [B]babies[/B]. On the same grounds that people are unable to perform unnecessary medical procedures on children, so too should unnecessary and outdated religious medical procedures. Saying that it 'doesn't matter' because they don't feel pain is horseshit, and under that principle, you can justify anything as long as you ensure that the victim is unable to remember the events.[/QUOTE] But this medical procedure doesn't do anything. Unlike the circumcision of women which has long term medical problems.

[QUOTE=5killer;29490497]But this medical procedure doesn't do anything.[/QUOTE] [media]http://www.soc.ucsb.edu/sexinfo/images/circumcised.jpg[/media] Yes, it does absolutely nothing.

[QUOTE=Contag;29490419]No, we regulate choices. We can abort [B]fetuses[/B], but not [B]babies[/B]. On the same grounds that people are unable to perform unnecessary medical procedures on children, so too should unnecessary and outdated religious medical procedures. Saying that it 'doesn't matter' because they don't feel pain is horseshit, and under that principle, you can justify anything as long as you ensure that the victim is unable to remember the events.[/QUOTE] What is the point of regulating this choice? It is not a lifelong damaging effect, and your life will not be at all impacted from it. This is not a desperate cause, this is trying to limit religious practices that you do not believe in, which violates the constitutional right of freedom of religion. And I did not say that it "doesn't matter", but psychologically babies will not have a recollection of pain. I was justifying that circumcision is okay because in this instance. The event does not make an impact on your life (because believe it or not normal people do not give a shit about cut and uncut), and I'm sure the people who are traumatized by circumcision are a vast minority.

[QUOTE=Sanius;29490520][media][/media] Yes, it does absolutely nothing.[/QUOTE] If you actually bothered to read the post, you would have realized I was referring to long term medical complications.

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[QUOTE=5killer;29490553]If you actually bothered to read the post, you would have realized I was referring to long term medical complications.[/QUOTE] I'm fairly certain that having the head of your penis and urethral opening constantly exposed can bring about medical complications.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;29490493]So if a parent wants to tattoo their baby you'd be fine with it?[/QUOTE] No, because that is not the same thing. Tattooing babies is not a religious practice of any culture. You also have to consider that tattoos are reacted to differently (socially) than a cut foreskin.

I'm circumcised, and until I found out what it was, I had no idea. I don't really care that I'm circumcised, except for the fact that I didn't have a choice and my parents found it alright to butcher my penis. Living with it, it seems normal to me, and it hasn't affected me. Also, no dick cheese.