Petition going on in San Francisco to ban male circumcision
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[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;29495356]
Leave it as a choice.[/QUOTE]
A choice for whom? Babies?
[QUOTE=Sanius;29495403]A choice for whom? Babies?[/QUOTE]
Families.
Stop saying pinky toes are completely useless, you ignorant fucks.
My grandfather had to get one of his amputated and was forced to learn to walk for the second time.
[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;29495356]Yeah you're right! Instead we should just ban being able to get your nails cut open altogether!
Leave it as a choice.
Get the fuck out of my life and I'll stay out of yours.[/QUOTE]
what
uhhh do you understand this law
it's not saying you can't cut bits of your dick off, it's saying your parents can't say "i'd like you to please cut bits off my baby, doctor"
how could you possibly be so fucking stupid as to turn this into some libertarian "gubmint takin my rights" issue
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29495296]I had recurring staph infections in both of my big toes for the last year and a half. I had to get my nails cut open and cleaned out a good 8 times.
Does that make it okay to remove the toenails from babies?[/QUOTE]
Stop whining. You look like an idiot with your reasoning.
Circumcision is not barbaric, stop calling it that. Foreskin is not vital to life, meanwhile if you have your eyelids sliced off your eyes will dry up, toes and crucial for balance, nails are important for protecting the INCREDIBLY sensitive skin under them (even more sensitive than your penis's skin) and are very useful tools that would make life incredibly inconvenient without.
And then there's the foreskin, which really doesn't serve much of a purpose in today's society, if it's cut off you just loose some, [B]SOME[/B], sensitivity.
[QUOTE=devcon;29495435]Stop saying pinkie toes are completely useless, you ignorant fucks.
My grandfather had to get one of his amputated and was forced to learn to walk for the second time.[/QUOTE]
Was he born with reversed feet or something? Or did he sway his hips wildly while walking?
No, he had what you'd describe as a normal stride.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29495467]Was he born with reversed feet or something? Or did he sway his hips wildly while walking?[/QUOTE]
Amputate one toe and your whole balance gets fucked over.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;29495448]Stop whining. You look like an idiot with your reasoning.
Circumcision is not barbaric, stop calling it that. Foreskin is not vital to life, meanwhile if you have your eyelids sliced off your eyes will dry up, toes and crucial for balance, nails are important for protecting the INCREDIBLY sensitive skin under them (even more sensitive than your penis's skin) and are very useful tools that would make life incredibly inconvenient without.
And then there's the foreskin, which really doesn't serve much of a purpose in today's society, if it's cut off you just loose some, [B]SOME[/B], sensitivity.[/QUOTE]
1. Never referred to eyelids. The hell are you on about?
2. I referred only to toenails. Fingernails are quite useful, as anyone with a mosquito bite can attest to.
3. Toenails also don't really serve much purpose in today's society, what with shoes and all that. And seeing as how neither of my big toes have nails on them anymore I can assure you the skin isn't as sensitive as my penis.
4. Specifically referred to the pinky toe, I understand the usefulness of the first four. The fifth is completely pointless.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29495436]what
uhhh do you understand this law
it's not saying you can't cut bits of your dick off, it's saying your parents can't say "i'd like you to please cut bits off my baby, doctor"
how could you possibly be so fucking stupid as to turn this into some libertarian "gubmint takin my rights" issue[/QUOTE]
If somebody is 16 years old and wants to have sex with his girlfriend, but can't because he has a problem with his foreskin and it's illegal to get a circumcision until it's 18, what is he supposed to do? Tell her he was born with a mutated dick?
What if you wanted to get your staph infection fixed but couldn't due to it being illegal until you're 18?
As I said, get the fuck out of other people's lives.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;29495489]Amputate one toe and your whole balance gets fucked over.[/QUOTE]
I fail to see how a small and malformed digit with hardly any muscle is integral to balance.
[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;29495560]If somebody is 16 years old and wants to have sex with his girlfriend, but can't because he has a problem with his foreskin and it's illegal to get a circumcision until it's 18, what is he supposed to do?
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...Where is it illegal to get a circumcision until you're 18?
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29495528]1. Never referred to eyelids. The hell are you on about?
2. I referred only to toenails. Fingernails are quite useful, as anyone with a mosquito bite can attest to.
3. Toenails also don't really serve much purpose in today's society, what with shoes and all that. And seeing as how neither of my big toes have nails on them anymore I can assure you the skin isn't as sensitive as my penis.
4. Specifically referred to the pinky toe, I understand the usefulness of the first four. The fifth is completely pointless.[/QUOTE]
Person you replied to mentioned the eyelids.
I can see where you're coming from with the toenails right now, but those nails are still damn useful, at least to me they are.
[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;29495560]If somebody is 16 years old and wants to have sex with his girlfriend, but can't because he has a problem with his foreskin and it's illegal to get a circumcision until it's 18, what is he supposed to do? Tell her he was born with a mutated dick?
What if you wanted to get your staph infection fixed but couldn't due to it being illegal until you're 18?
As I said, get the fuck out of other people's lives.[/QUOTE]
The hell? Are you fucking kidding me?
What you said is the equivalent to saying "if I can't cut out my daughter's lung, what if she gets lung cancer? Are you saying I can't get rid of her lung if it will [I]kill her you monster?[/I]"
They're completely different situations you nut.
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[QUOTE=mysteryman;29495624]Person you replied to mentioned the eyelids.
I can see where you're coming from with the toenails right now, but those nails are still damn useful, at least to me they are.[/QUOTE]
I'm sure there are also a lot of people who find their foreskins perfectly fine where they are.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29495602]I fail to see how a small and malformed digit with hardly any muscle is integral to balance.[/QUOTE]
It's actually true, every toe adds to balance and with just one lobbed off can fuck you over.
Eventually you adjust, but even then balance is never fully regained and you can't do certain things like standing on one foot.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29495602]I fail to see how a small and malformed digit with hardly any muscle is integral to balance.[/QUOTE]
You also fail to realize how balance itself is a finely tuned mechanism of self-circumspection.
Sure they'd get used to having no pinky toes if we chopped them off at birth, but they'd walk differently than everyone else.
I wish I had my foreskin :smith:
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29495643]
I'm sure there are also a lot of people who find their foreskins perfectly fine where they are.[/QUOTE]
Yes, that's all fine and dandy, there are plenty of people who are perfectly fine without having their foreskin. I'm not seeing your logic here.
[QUOTE=FunnyBunny;29495245]You guys are all fucking idiots, you're proposing banning something just because you disagree with it.
There ARE medical reasons to do it too. Not this clean dick shit, I mean there are literally cases where you can't have sex unless you get circumcised because the fore skin does not open wide enough to allow it to be slid back. What do you say then?[/QUOTE]
We don't want it banned for everyone, only for babies who cannot consent to it
And if it's medically necessary that's totally different
[QUOTE=devcon;29495690]You also fail to realize how balance itself is a finely tuned mechanism of self-circumspection.
Sure they'd get used to having no pinky toes if we chopped them off at birth, but they'd walk differently than everyone else.[/QUOTE]
And people with no foreskins have different experiences fucking than everyone else too. That's the point. We're cutting bits off of babies because of some nonsense rule made by goat herders in the desert and justifying it by saying "it doesn't cause any real harm in the long run".
[QUOTE=Omali;29484280]Wait, so mutilating a baby is okay if it's for religious purposes?[/QUOTE]
They cut off a tiny piece of their foreskin, it's barely mutilation.
How about you just don't ban it? Yes i get that the child is young and can't say it's choice but until then it's the parent's decision. So if the parent's of a new child want to give him a circumcision believing that it will give him an easier life in the long run -- LET THEM. They did it in their best interest to help their child. The child grows up PERFECTLY FINE and virtually unchanged. It's not like having his foreskin would have radically changed his life where he would have grown up to be president all thanks to having foreskin.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;29495725]Yes, that's all fine and dandy, there are plenty of people who are perfectly fine without having their foreskin. I'm not seeing your logic here.[/QUOTE]
The point is you wouldn't know you were fine with your toenails if we cut them off because you wouldn't bloody have them you monkey. The point is we shouldn't be cutting bits off of people without their consent.
[QUOTE=Slowbro;29495806]They cut off a tiny piece of their foreskin, it's barely mutilation.[/QUOTE]
That's like saying fucking a woman gently without consent is barely rape.
[QUOTE=Slowbro;29495806]They cut off a tiny piece of their foreskin, it's barely mutilation.[/QUOTE]
It's not even mutilation.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;29495836]How about you just don't ban it? Yes i get that the child is young and can't say it's choice but until then it's the parent's decision. So if the parent's of a new child want to give him a circumcision believing that it will give him an easier life in the long run -- LET THEM. They did it in their best interest to help their child. The child grows up PERFECTLY FINE and virtually unchanged. It's not like having his foreskin would have radically changed his life where he would have grown up to be president all thanks to having foreskin.[/QUOTE]
Well then why can't we also cut off childrens toenails and pinky toes? Why can't we remove their appendixes too while we're at it?
Are you saying parents can surgically alter their children however they want so long as it doesn't have measurable negative side effects.
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[QUOTE=mysteryman;29495848]It's not even mutilation.[/QUOTE]
How is cutting off a bit of a baby's dick not mutilation?
[QUOTE=Sanius;29495846]That's like saying fucking a woman gently without consent is barely rape.[/QUOTE]
That's a pretty big jump you just did there.
[editline]28th April 2011[/editline]
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29495878]Well then why can't we also cut off childrens toenails and pinky toes? Why can't we remove their appendixes too while we're at it?
Are you saying parents can surgically alter their children however they want so long as it doesn't have measurable negative side effects.
[editline]28th April 2011[/editline]
How is cutting off a bit of a baby's dick not mutilation?[/QUOTE]
Wow, you're dense.
Coming from a circumcised person, it isn't like it makes sex deleterious or anything. (quite the opposite, actually)
People need to pull their heads out of their asses and stop being dick elitists.
[quote]How is cutting off a bit of a baby's dick not mutilation?[/quote]
You're either a horrible troll or haven't read this thread correctly.
[QUOTE=mysteryman;29495888]Wow, you're dense.[/QUOTE]
Coming from you I take that as a compliment.
[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;29495909]Coming from you I take that as a compliment.[/QUOTE]
Wow, you're an asshole.
Strike that, arrogant prick works better.
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