[QUOTE=Smashmaster;17777379]Fuckin' great, this actually works in favor of creationists because now they can say "yeah, the earth actually IS 4.5 billion years old, it's just that god showed up around 10,000 years ago."
Which has it's own problems, but at least is more feasible than fucking "everything was created from nothing around 10,000 years ago."[/QUOTE]
Then where the fuck did the Earth come from if God didn't make it?
And if he didn't make it then he's not omnipotent, meaning he isn't God.
[QUOTE=Kybalt;17777394]I'm not really sure what the point of putting labels on peoples beliefs is. It is illogical for there to be a god. Whatever you want to call this proposition, go ahead, but it isn't an argument. It's Ad hominem at best.[/QUOTE]
okay how about this
you're both an antitheist and an idiot
[QUOTE=Zeke129;17777417]Ad Hominem is attacking the person or their beliefs. We're attacking the logic behind the beliefs.[/QUOTE]
You're labeling the people as theists/antitheists or whatever. That's somehow supposed to discredit their argument?
I'll be back in 10 minutes. Getting some Pizza.
[QUOTE=Van-man;17774058]:iceburn: to religion[/QUOTE]
Umm, this hasn't changed my belief at all.
People have been saying God doesn't exist since religions started, so I don't see what the big deal is when an academic says it and it gets in the news.
[QUOTE=Smashmaster;17777428]It's not illogical to say there is an invisible creator, at least. And it's not logical to deny that there is. [/QUOTE]
are you 6 years-old
it is beyond illogical to assume that something is there when there is no prove of it's existence
[QUOTE=SantanaDVX;17777433]Then where the fuck did the Earth come from if God didn't make it?
And if he didn't make it then he's not omnipotent, meaning he isn't God.[/QUOTE]
Eh probably some hippy shit like aliens or something
[QUOTE=Kybalt;17777394]I'm not really sure what the point of putting labels on peoples beliefs is. It is illogical for there to be a god. Whatever you want to call this proposition, go ahead, but it isn't an argument. It's Ad hominem at best.
[editline]01:37PM[/editline]
No I'm pretty damn sure someone has to be right.[/QUOTE]
Then that someone better speak the fuck up.
[QUOTE=Doriol;17777467]are you 6 years-old
it is beyond illogical to assume that something is there when there is no prove of it's existence[/QUOTE]
Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.
[QUOTE=SantanaDVX;17777224]Religion's claim: There is a God.
Religion's backup: God said so/nothing.
Atheist's claim: There is no God.
Atheist's backup: nothing.
There is no definative proof or disproof of the being known as "God"[/QUOTE]
That shit is deep, you should become a philosopher.
:rolleyes:
[QUOTE=SantanaDVX;17777476]
Are you an idiot? I was responding to the other guy's comment.
Nice job reading there.[/QUOTE]
is your name smashmaster
no
[QUOTE=SantanaDVX;17777476]Then that someone better speak the fuck up.
[editline]12:42PM[/editline]
Are you an idiot? I was responding to the other guy's comment.
Nice job reading there.[/QUOTE]
You're just a big troll. You need to calm the fuck down. Also, I'm the only person here who gets to arbitrarily pepper my fucking sentences with the word fuck.
[QUOTE=gamefreek76;17777522]Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.[/QUOTE]
okay how about this for an argument
you're a fucking idiot
there is absolutely no evidence to prove the existence of the abrahamic god
so it is logical to say that it does not exist
[QUOTE=gamefreek76;17777522]Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.[/QUOTE]
Okay.
I can fly.
There's no evidence of this (and I won't give you any), but it doesn't mean that I can't fly.
Yes I'm a big troll for misreading a quote.
And the whole debate is stupid.
Nobody has proof, everybody should sit down.
I can grow my dick to 900 inches if I punch myself in the throat
there is no evidence of this
but you can't prove that it isn't possible you illogical fuck(!)
[QUOTE=Doriol;17777467]are you 6 years-old
it is beyond illogical to assume that something is there when there is no prove of it's existence[/QUOTE]
That's not what I said, is it?
You people really all need to calm down, the universe isn't going to explode if half of us think the other half is wrong.
There IS evidence to believe in god. We exist, don't we? Science has provided no thoeries as to why the universe actually exists that have as much evidence as "there's a god that created it."
But there's not very much evidence, so we need to shut the hell up about this shit before I get a hernia
[QUOTE=Doriol;17777563]okay how about this for an argument
you're a fucking idiot
there is absolutely no evidence to prove the existence of the abrahamic god
so it is logical to say that it does not exist[/QUOTE]
There's no evidence to prove the inexistence of the abrahamic god
so it is logical to say that it does exist
I can punch you in the throat, Dorial.
[quote]Last three pages[/quote]
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[QUOTE=Smashmaster;17777428]It's not illogical to say there is an invisible creator, at least. And it's not logical to deny that there is. There's just no damned evidence for either argument, so there's no fucking point in arguing. We just don't fucking know.[/QUOTE]
Agnosticism is the best view.
Sometimes I wish Earth was 6000 years old, everything in the bible was true, and God said hello every week to prove it. Then life wouldn't suck because no one would argue over religion and we would all have a purpose in life.
[QUOTE=Smashmaster;17777617]
There IS evidence to believe in god. We exist, don't we? Science has provided no thoeries as to why the universe actually exists that have as much evidence as "there's a god that created it."
But there's not very much evidence, so we need to shut the hell up about this shit before I get a hernia[/QUOTE]
are you autistic or have you just not grown out of your imaginary friend phase
Atheists get pretty angry in a discussion. Not a very good trait to have.
[QUOTE=Nyaos;17777650]Agnosticism is the best view.
[/QUOTE]
agnostics are the worst of the three
[QUOTE=Doriol;17777651]are you autistic or have you just not grown out of your imaginary friend phase[/QUOTE]
What was before the universe? You're ignorant to say that believing in a God or higher spirit is illogical. There's plenty of reason to believe in it. And no, it will NEVER be proven or disproven.
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[QUOTE=Doriol;17777662]agnostics are the worst of the three[/QUOTE]
Agnostic is not a religious position like Atheism and Christianity.
Anyways, what exactly is wrong with living our lives NOT CARING about religion?
[QUOTE=Doriol;17777651]are you autistic or have you just not grown out of your imaginary friend phase[/QUOTE]
You need to calm down. If you have an aneurysm, we're not to blame. This is not serious business. It never was, even when people were poisoning each other with nightshade over this bullshit.
[QUOTE=Nyaos;17777686]
Agnostic is not a religious position like Atheism and Christianity.
[/QUOTE]
atheism is not a religious position, you dumb fuck
get a fucking dictionary and shove it up your urethra
[quote]What was before the universe? You're ignorant to say that believing in a God or higher spirit is illogical. There's plenty of reason to believe in it. And no, it will NEVER be proven or disproven.[/quote]
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU GUYS ARE DUMB AS FUCKING SHIT
ITT: Doriol plays philosphers with people in the thread
[QUOTE=Doriol;17777741]atheism is not a religious position, you dumb fuck
get a fucking dictionary and shove it up your urethra
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU GUYS ARE DUMB AS FUCKING SHIT[/QUOTE]
Calm the fuck down bro.
[QUOTE=Doriol;17777741]atheism is not a religious position, you dumb fuck
get a fucking dictionary and shove it up your urethra
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST YOU GUYS ARE DUMB AS FUCKING SHIT[/QUOTE]
You need to calm down, bro.
Just cause you can't get your point across doesn't mean you need to flame, it just means you're bad at debating.
[QUOTE=Nyaos;17777686] And no, it will NEVER be proven or disproven.
[/QUOTE]
Oh hello there mister psychic
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