UK soldiers confess to racial abuse and asking Afghan boy to 'touch my special place' - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Melnek;40899129]What correlation does hidden sexual perversion have with strenuous physical exercise?[/QUOTE] Well, conscientiousness [I]is[/I] [URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conscientiousness#Behavior"]negatively correlated with anti-social behaviors.[/URL] As critical as I tend to be of the military, it wouldn't be all that unreasonable to say that there are probably fewer "bad" individuals in the army than there are in the civilian world, contrary to the popular belief that ~sociopaths would make awesome soldiers~

[QUOTE=NoDachi;40905121]Am I missing some context here?[/QUOTE] Previous experience of harassing some chick probably.

[QUOTE=Zeke129;40904908]Is this post a thinly veiled complaint that you aren't allowed to harass women anymore because actual rapists ruined it for you?[/QUOTE] You got us, Skeea is a rapist and I am a Pentagon official trying to cover it all up because we're taking it all so lightly.

[QUOTE=snapshot32;40905034]It's the fact he cant even act natural around female personnel for fear of a harassment charge and has to spend 2 hours every other week contemplating suicide by ballpoint at a harassment briefing. It's annoying that you attempt to attack him for something he didn't do.[/QUOTE] If you're worried that "acting natural" to female personnel can result in a complaint then your idea of "acting natural" is probably a messed up one

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;40909495]If you're worried that "acting natural" to female personnel can result in a complaint then your idea of "acting natural" is probably a messed up one[/QUOTE] You're talking about women joining one of the most masculine organizations that exists in any society, the Army. A female, exposed by a bunch of men that have egos that match the size of the Sun every day at work. The Army briefs the shit out of this, your platoon sergeant stresses 'There's gonna be women here, don't you fucking lay an eye on them,' briefings on a quarterly basis on how to not behave towards a woman. The Army's constant emphasis on sexual harassment/assault prevention makes it a constant concern for soldiers that want to keep their job, they're going to see women as nothing but a 'possibility for an EO/SHARP complaint' because of the soldiers' constant exposure to these briefings. It's like having your friend fuck with you by asking whether or not you locked your car and you end up nervously checking your car later on to see if it's locked. I don't want to say that SHARP has been blown out of proportion but its having a rising relevance in the military and military personnel are now having their heads on a swivel in areas where they previously aren't concerned about.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;40909520]You're talking about women joining one of the most masculine organizations that exists in any society, a military. A female, surrounded by a bunch of men that have egos that match the size of the Sun every day at work.[/QUOTE] That doesn't excuse harassment, nor does it make them to blame for it.

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;40909546]That doesn't excuse harassment, nor does it make them to blame for it.[/QUOTE] It doesn't but it sure as Hell makes it much more likely to happen.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;40909563]It doesn't but it sure as Hell makes it much more likely to happen.[/QUOTE] i thought it would make it less likely to happen if everyone genuinely is terrified of it

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;40909563]It doesn't but it sure as Hell makes it much more likely to happen.[/QUOTE] What makes it more likely? Women in the military?

[QUOTE=Hellduck;40909583]i thought it would make it less likely to happen if everyone genuinely is terrified of it[/QUOTE] That's the effect of all these briefings that the Army is administering, it would certainly act as a Hell of a deterrent from the next pervy-Private that's setting his eyes on the female nurse but it won't grind sexual assault incidents to a complete halt. [QUOTE=MisterMooth;40909596]What makes it more likely? Women in the military?[/QUOTE] I think so, yes.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;40909597]That's the effect of all these briefings that the Army is administering, it would certainly act as a Hell of a deterrent from the next pervy-Private that's setting his eyes on the female nurse but it won't grind sexual assault incidents to a complete halt.[/QUOTE] so if it's not 100% effective don't bother?

[QUOTE=Hellduck;40909608]so if it's not 100% effective don't bother?[/QUOTE] It's much better than never holding the briefings or assigning SHARP trainers to units.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;40909597]I think so, yes.[/QUOTE] That's not women's fault. If men can't act appropriately around women then it's their own problem to fix.

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;40909617]It's much better than never holding the briefings or assigning SHARP trainers to units.[/QUOTE] it's much better to not brief soldiers on sexual harassment because it only reduces offences a bit, and makes soldiers uncomfortable?

[QUOTE=MisterMooth;40909618]That's not women's fault. If men can't act appropriately around women then it's their own problem to fix.[/QUOTE] I never blamed women. I cannot properly represent the whole male population of the Army and how they think but many of these men can't be relied on themselves to fix this problem if their problem involves thinking perverse things about female soldiers. [editline]5th June 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Hellduck;40909628]it's much better to not brief soldiers on sexual harassment because it only reduces offences a bit, and makes soldiers uncomfortable?[/QUOTE] I just said in my post that it is better than to not do anything about it.

What would you suggest they do to fix it?

[QUOTE=CabooseRvB;40909631]I just said in my post that it is better than to not do anything about it.[/QUOTE] right, then what's the issue?

[QUOTE=Hellduck;40909662]right, then what's the issue?[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Hellduck;40909608]so if it's not 100% effective don't bother?[/QUOTE] I was responding to that point.

I'm sorry, I'm really having trouble with this. Can you please state your position?

[QUOTE=Hellduck;40909723]I'm sorry, I'm really having trouble with this. Can you please state your position?[/QUOTE] He's saying that what we have currently works up to a point, but that nothing will ever completely eliminate the problem.

[QUOTE=SKEEA;40910493]He's saying that what we have currently works up to a point, but that nothing will ever completely eliminate the problem.[/QUOTE] right, that's what i thought he was saying. so there's not actually an issue with the briefings?

[QUOTE=Hellduck;40911201]right, that's what i thought he was saying. so there's not actually an issue with the briefings?[/QUOTE] Not really, but they are always paired with other briefings, and those briefings on top of other briefings, and your day is filled with death by powerpoint and it is the most boring thing you can imagine. The content is just fine. Now, it is also a way to pick out the creepy ass people in your battalion, as they are the ones that ask the really creepy and detailed "So it's not rape if..." questions at the end of the briefing.