Scientists Discover Fat People Have Been Lying to Them
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[QUOTE=Deng;47229330]Nearly everything you need to know about the increase in obesity can be summed up in one statistic.
USA Daily dietary energy consumption per capita:
3,770 kilocalories
This is more than double the minimum recommended by the UN[/QUOTE]
Holy shit, that's 3770000 calories, and that means it's enough to warm up 3770000kg of water to 3770000 degrees celsius
[QUOTE=LVL FACTORY;47229592]Holy shit, that's 3770000 calories, and that means it's enough to warm up 3770000kg of water to 3770000 degrees celsius[/QUOTE]
I think your physics is slightly off here.
A [b]calorie[/b] is defined as being the quantity of energy required to heat up 1 gram of water by 1 degree celsius.
A [b]kilocalorie[/b] meanwhile is defined as how much energy it takes to raise the temperature of 1kg of water by 1 degree celsius. 3770 kilocalories will heat up 3770000 kilograms of water by 1/1000th of a degree.
I use to do one of those order in food diets where they'd send you meals, and it did work, my problem is my friends are BIG eaters. Two of them can go through four pizzas alone, and one's stomach is essentially bottomless so when we hang out, I can't resist to pick at their food. I try to make up for it by running longer at the gym. I did give up soda all together, I opted for drinking more water, I have a giant mug I drink from to keep myself occupied, and I'm trying my hardest not to eat junk food. So far I'm good, I try my best not to eat too much, when we eat out I usually order lemonade or water and drink about half of it before my meal comes so I fill up on that and not order anymore.
A lot of the time when it comes to eating is willpower, you'll excuse yourself so many times to eat unhealthy "Oh I didn't eat junk today I deserve it" "I worked out it'll cancel out" and I feel like that's what stops progress in weight loss.
[QUOTE=Deng;47229735]I think your physics is slightly off here.
A [b]calorie[/b] is defined as being the quantity of energy required to heat up 1 gram of water by 1 degree celsius.
A [b]kilocalorie[/b] meanwhile is defined as how much energy it takes to raise the temperature of 1kg of water by 1 degree celsius. 3770 kilocalories will heat up 3770000 kilograms of water by 1/1000th of a degree.[/QUOTE]
Eh mistake
[QUOTE=waxrock;47229305]Someone else already replied but whatever.
It really is as simple as calories in vs calories out. Seriously, read everything you bolded in that paper. None of them points to genetics as the direct cause of obesity. "If an individual is programmed in this way owing to an abnormal shortage of food (such as famine) or exposure to a chemical that mimics the famine programming, signals continue in a time of abundant food supply, and the mismatch could lead to obesity" (read: eating like a fatty when there's no need to makes you fat. Go figure). If you eat at below TDEE, regardless of your hormones or genetics or conditions, you WILL lose weight. If you can somehow gain weight after that, congrats you just broke the 1st law of Thermo. Go talk to some scientists and collect your reward.[/QUOTE]
The point is that genetics can affect appetite and fat storage which affects obesity. The expression of certain genes can cause people to eat more because they feel like they're starving, or store more fat rather than burn it due to issues like insulin or leptin resistance. The 1st law isn't being violated because the body is taking the food and diverting it to be stored into the adipose tissue rather than used by skeletal or smooth muscle. Your body isn't an oven and burns 100% of the calories you eat, it breaks down food into different chemicals and then decides where those chemicals go.
My main point is that for some individuals it is much, MUCH harder to lose weight than others. It's still possible, but these people have to fight the very primal part of their brain telling them to eat because they feel like they're starving, and the food that they eat is more readily stored into fat than burned. Willpower is still important but past a certain point some people can't muster the willpower to starve themselves, even if they're not physically starving their brain is screaming at them that they are. Issues also arise if they gain too much weight, which can affect their legs and causes them issues with mobility, which makes exercising even harder. Or, if they have other medical issues like osteoarthritis, heart disorders, asthma, etc. which can occur due to obesity, it stacks on even more hurdles to jump over. The prevalence of people who don't have any issues losing weight and claim it's easy and those that have trouble are "weak" or "lazy" downplays the extreme difficulty these people have to overcome obesity.
[QUOTE=SleepyAl;47230809]The point is that genetics can affect appetite and fat storage which affects obesity. The expression of certain genes can cause people to eat more because they feel like they're starving, or store more fat rather than burn it due to issues like insulin or leptin resistance. The 1st law isn't being violated because the body is taking the food and diverting it to be stored into the adipose tissue rather than used by skeletal or smooth muscle. Your body isn't an oven and burns 100% of the calories you eat, it breaks down food into different chemicals and then decides where those chemicals go.
My main point is that for some individuals it is much, MUCH harder to lose weight than others. It's still possible, but these people have to fight the very primal part of their brain telling them to eat because they feel like they're starving, and the food that they eat is more readily stored into fat than burned. Willpower is still important but past a certain point some people can't muster the willpower to starve themselves, even if they're not physically starving their brain is screaming at them that they are. Issues also arise if they gain too much weight, which can affect their legs and causes them issues with mobility, which makes exercising even harder. Or, if they have other medical issues like osteoarthritis, heart disorders, asthma, etc. which can occur due to obesity, it stacks on even more hurdles to jump over. The prevalence of people who don't have any issues losing weight and claim it's easy and those that have trouble are "weak" or "lazy" downplays the extreme difficulty these people have to overcome obesity.[/QUOTE]
No one said the body burns everything you eat. Whatever your body doesn't burn for its metabolic processes is stored into fat. So... you just eat less and less until you don't have the excess energy to store away.
And obviously it's difficult to resist hungry pangs, but guess what? That's the entire point of a diet. That's why there's self-discipline. And fine, so their diet prevents them from physically exerting themselves too much. You don't need to exercise to go on a caloric deficit. Just walk to keep up your cardiovascular health.
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