Transgender 10-Year-Old, Jackie, Born A Boy, Happier As A Girl - Polidicks

[QUOTE=asteroidrules;32054390]Give him three years, he'll grow out of it and you'll have to pay to cut out the implants. [editline]1st September 2011[/editline] It's true and you know it.[/QUOTE] Your mother huffed petrol and gave blowjobs for five bucks outside a petrol station. It's true and you know it. [editline]1st September 2011[/editline] Oh wait, saying 'It's true and you know it.' does nothing to make my argument more credible, and is utter bullshit.

Do I have to call him a she?

[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;32056277]That's not a word and it never will be. Don't make me beat a dictionary into you [I]Literally.[/I][/QUOTE] I'd rather have a made up word than be called what is essentially translated into gender weird.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32056544]I'd rather have a made up word than be called what is essentially translated into gender weird.[/QUOTE] Gender [I]odd[/I]. I'm very specific with my linguistics.

Is this really news, other than giving FPers something to argue over? I don't think anyone really wants to know if some confused 10 year old thinks he is a girl, except the really angry people who spend a lot of their time on the internet looking for someone to argue with. [editline]1st September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Contag;32056337]Your mother huffed petrol and gave blowjobs for five bucks outside a petrol station. It's true and you know it. [editline]1st September 2011[/editline] Oh wait, saying 'It's true and you know it.' does nothing to make my argument more credible, and is utter bullshit.[/QUOTE] Such as this fine gentleman who apparently feels the best solution to any given argument is to suggest the opposition's mother is a whore.

[QUOTE=Ray-The-Sun;32056557]Gender [I]odd[/I]. I'm very specific with my linguistics.[/QUOTE] Still not a very nice term

Isn't neuter the correct term?

[QUOTE=Mingebox;32056743]Isn't neuter the correct term?[/QUOTE] Actually it's androgyny Neuter is for grammatically androgynous words

Wait, if men are stronger than women, and sex is genetic, then how doesn't that make strength (or ease to create strength) genetic as well? I mean, genes aren't binary, you don't either grow x testosterone and y estrogen or y t. and x e., it's a continuous spectrum, if you happen to have genes that give you more testosterone, you get more muscle mass.

Even though I personally can't see the reasoning, I'm fine with transgenderism. That said, there's no way a ten-year old has a sexual identity at [i]all[/i]. At that age, most of us boys hadn't even hit puberty. How can he make a rational decision about his gender if he hasn't experienced his born gender first?

[QUOTE=MountainWatcher;32057157]doesn't that make strength genetic as well?[/QUOTE] everything is partially genetic how strong you are how tall you are how fat you are whether or not you'll get addicted to gambling after winning a hand they're all also partially influenced by external factors as well [editline]1st September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=DarkendSky;32057193] That said, there's no way a ten-year old has a sexual identity at [i]all[/i].[/QUOTE] We have a sexual identity the moment we can start differentiating boys from girls and notice how they act and/or how it's perceived that they're "supposed" to act So, 3-5, later if you're really slow

[QUOTE=DarkendSky;32057193]Even though I personally can't see the reasoning, I'm fine with transgenderism. That said, there's no way a ten-year old has a sexual identity at [i]all[/i]. At that age, most of us boys hadn't even hit puberty. How can he make a rational decision about his gender if he hasn't experienced his born gender first?[/QUOTE]It's like those people who have an overpowering urge to amputate their limbs. It's not just a matter of gender identity, there's something in the brain that thinks that the body is wrong.

While some people may say it's a bit too soon for a 10 year old to change his gender, I have something you need to think about. Let's say he actually is a transgender. Is it right to force him to grow up as a boy, with the role of a boy? It will seriously impact his life if he has to grow up as the 'wrong' gender.

[QUOTE=Chrille;32056387]Do I have to call him a she?[/QUOTE] no but i cant think of a reason why you wouldn't other than laziness or spite

I couldn't care less as long as these transgender people really put their ass in to representing the other sex. Because I don't think anyone likes the half-assed in-between types.

This is a very weird but interesting article. I'm against transgender, I believe we should be natural but the video showed me that people aren't always born with that ease of being who they should be, as we're all different. It's unfortunate he was not born as a girl, that's the only bad thing.

[QUOTE=Mr. Agree;32057818]This is a very weird but interesting article. I'm against transgender, I believe we should be natural but the video showed me that people aren't always born with that ease of being who they should be, as we're all different. It's unfortunate he was not born as a girl, that's the only bad thing.[/QUOTE] I'm against augmentation, everybody should be natural down with Sarif industries

She has some real balls to do that. Pun, but I still mean it. I'd be proud if that was my daughter/son.

hell, good for her, shes happy anyways.

[QUOTE=Mr. Agree;32057818]This is a very weird but interesting article. I'm against transgender, I believe we should be natural but the video showed me that people aren't always born with that ease of being who they should be, as we're all different. It's unfortunate he was not born as a girl, that's the only bad thing.[/QUOTE]What constitutes as normal? Do you take medicine? A lot of that isn't "natural" and that changes your body. You seem to be forgetting that humans are animals, we are a member of the animal kingdom and nature. If something occurs in our body it is nature, it's natural.

[QUOTE=thisispain;32052300]well no not if his son is malnourished, doesn't exercise much, or has a genetic muscle illness. not to mention the female has to have the same genetic disposition. and am i supposed to assume that this 6'4 man was naturally strong? that isn't even possible. we've already mapped out the genome and such factors have found little basis in reality. [/QUOTE] you're throwing in different variables that aren't relevant a person can be more naturally muscular than another, or have a stronger frame this isn't even debatable

[QUOTE=TBFundy;32063080]you're throwing in different variables that aren't relevant[/QUOTE] are genetic illnesses and well-being not relevant to bearing a supposedly stronger child? there's no standard of measuring strength by birth.

[QUOTE=thisispain;32063190]are genetic illnesses and well-being not relevant to bearing a supposedly stronger child? there's no standard of measuring strength by birth.[/QUOTE] if you gave two children the same food, exercise, and appropriate care during childhood and one of them was born from a 6'4 stockily framed father and a well proportioned woman and the other was born from two short, slender built parents one will be able to lift more poundage and probably do it longer just because he was gifted with a stronger frame. of course you couldn't really ever test this, but I work around a lot of "meatheads" and my brother is a physician so understandably we see a lot of hard working people fall short compared to people who were just born with a "stronger" body. it's nothing you can't counter with hardwork, but it's definitely there i understand your reservations with the notions that humans have animal-like qualities like "alpha males" and "survival of the fittest" but it's no reason to say "no one is born naturally strong"

[QUOTE=TBFundy;32063487]of course you couldn't really ever test this[/QUOTE] so my point of it being scientifically invalid still holds

Depends on how you define natural aswell, somebody may be born with biologically higher qualification, but that has no real value in our society today at all. Let's say somebody would be born at one place at one event, that human would grow up to be something. Then let's say we took someone else, more 'biologically qualified' and that human was born with the same enviromental conditions. The person wouldn't typically grow up to be a better human, because that person would be different, and would therefor make different choices, react differently, so on and so on. And unless nature even has a way with or control over our whole human society all over earth today, that person could have made a worse human just aswell as a better human. The mordern society we live in is so "unnatural" that biological, genetic conditions don't matter that much.

She is happy. :smile: That's all the matters.

I never knew facepunch was so transphobic. Anyways: Good on her.

[QUOTE=Weemanply109;32063647]She is happy. :smile: That's all the matters.[/QUOTE] What's this? A fantastic post? Why hello there.

[QUOTE=thisispain;32063524]so my point of it being scientifically invalid still holds[/QUOTE] you can't test it but you can see it in fact, i see it every day

[QUOTE=GamerKiwi;32052769]I'm all for transgender folks, but big decisions like this should be only allowed to be made by adults.[/QUOTE] there are adults involved: the battery of counselors that anyone is required to go through in order to get a sex change