Transgender 10-Year-Old, Jackie, Born A Boy, Happier As A Girl - Polidicks

[QUOTE=Mr. Agree;32057818]I'm against transgender, I believe we should be natural[/QUOTE] Transgender is a natural thing So you want to explain the hypocrisy

[QUOTE=Zeke129;32066452]Transgender is a natural thing So you want to explain the hypocrisy[/QUOTE] zeke why are you so amazing

[QUOTE=Sublata;32066502]zeke why are you so amazing[/QUOTE] I'm not

he should definitely wait though if I recall correctly fucking with hormones during puberty is dangerous ala eunuchs

[QUOTE=TBFundy;32068902]he should definitely wait though if I recall correctly fucking with hormones during puberty is dangerous ala eunuchs[/QUOTE] uhh but in eunuchs castration results in the the suppression of the development of male physical characteristics which is sort of exactly half the point of MtF hormone treatments

I'm surprised any parents would be that accepting. [editline]1st September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=The golden;32066554]So modest! :v:[/QUOTE] And sexy

[QUOTE=imasillypiggy;32069962] And sexy[/QUOTE] He is?

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32072722]He is?[/QUOTE] Extremely.

When did this happen?

Wow he likes girly things, so that makes him a girl in a boys body. Why can't he just settle on being camp, or a cross dresser?

[QUOTE=The DooD;32074127]Wow he likes girly things, so that makes him a girl in a boys body. Why can't he just settle on being camp, or a cross dresser?[/QUOTE] That's kinda where I'm confused because he could also be gay or something :v: I just feel in my gut that his mother pounced on a conclusion before it really had time to develop. Of course we should never go with gut feelings with something like this so I'll shut up now.

[QUOTE=Judas;32049370]Transgender ops shouldnt be legal until age 18.[/QUOTE] If you've hit puberty and become a tranny there's really no point in doing it at all. By then you could never pass yourself off as a woman.

[QUOTE=JustGman;32074560]If you've hit puberty and become a tranny there's really no point in doing it at all. By then you could never pass yourself off as a woman.[/QUOTE] I don't think you know what you're talking about, actually.

Why is my penis rock-hard?

Deal with the cards ur dealt with

This thread made me cringe, I can't believe so many people actually support this. The kid's 10, his brain isn't developed and they shouldn't allow him to make decisions like that. They probably bought him girly stuff at a young age and they think he 'likes' to wear them just because they got it for him. They showed pictures of the kid at age -about- 4 with ballerina clothes on? What the hell? Was it honestly the kid's own choice or did the parents slowly turn this kid into a girl? People make me sick. [sp]I can already sense the boxes[/sp]

[QUOTE=bull3tmagn3t;32075261]Deal with the cards ur dealt with[/QUOTE] I'm not sure I can do justice to the overlying stupidity in this post, but allow me to attempt to break it down for you. GID is classed as a medical condition/mental illness depending on the location, and you therefore are saying that people should just deal with all medical conditions and mental illnesses. Want therapy to help you overcome (for example) OCD? Just deal with it, after all you should just deal with the cards you're given. I doubt you know anything about GID or transsexualism, and you're just spurting out garbage based upon a ton of misinformation and more likely assumptions that you've made, since you know everything about the human mind. [QUOTE=Xeloo;32076312]This thread made me cringe, I can't believe so many people actually support this. The kid's 10, his brain isn't developed and they shouldn't allow him to make decisions like that. They probably bought him girly stuff at a young age and they think he 'likes' to wear them just because they got it for him. They showed pictures of the kid at age -about- 4 with ballerina clothes on? What the hell? Was it honestly the kid's own choice or did the parents slowly turn this kid into a girl? People make me sick. [sp]I can already sense the boxes[/sp][/QUOTE] Where exactly is the problem here? The kid said she wanted to live as a girl, and that's all she's doing right now. She's going to have to live like that for years before they start any actual treatment (assuming she wants it), and that's plenty of time for her to ensure that she really wants this. I've said it before but I knew I was gender confused around age 5, it's not hard to know there's something wrong, even at a young age. They may not be fully developed mentally or be entirely responsible but they have the sense to realise when they've got a problem.

[QUOTE=Xeloo;32076312]This thread made me cringe, I can't believe so many people actually support this. The kid's 10, his brain isn't developed and they shouldn't allow him to make decisions like that. They probably bought him girly stuff at a young age and they think he 'likes' to wear them just because they got it for him. They showed pictures of the kid at age -about- 4 with ballerina clothes on? What the hell? Was it honestly the kid's own choice or did the parents slowly turn this kid into a girl? People make me sick. [sp]I can already sense the boxes[/sp][/QUOTE] Yeah but if the kid actually is a transgender it wouldn't be right to raise him as a boy. This thing is a good argument to why we shouldn't give boys and girls 'gender roles' at such early age.

[QUOTE=MrJazzy;32077433]Yeah but if the kid actually is a transgender it wouldn't be right to raise him as a boy. This thing is a good argument to why we shouldn't give boys and girls 'gender roles' at such early age.[/QUOTE] Agreed, boys shouldn't be forced to play sports or act aggressive while girls should not be raised to learn how to cook and clean. We should let them figure themselves out.

[QUOTE=Domokun;32077752]Agreed, boys shouldn't be forced to play sports or act aggressive while girls learn how to cook and clean. We should let them figure themselves out.[/QUOTE] Well, we should definitely learn them cook, clean and work out and stuff because that stuff is healthy and has to be done, but we should learn both our boys and girls that. When it comes to interests, we should show them stuff and let them do what they like.

[QUOTE=MrJazzy;32077433]Yeah but if the kid actually is a transgender it wouldn't be right to raise him as a boy. This thing is a good argument to why we shouldn't give boys and girls 'gender roles' at such early age.[/QUOTE] We'd be much better off without gender roles.

[QUOTE=carcarcargo;32077793]We'd be much better off without gender roles.[/QUOTE] Yeah, my point.

Hey 10 year old, only girls can like pink "But I like pink" But ONLY girls can like pink "Oh ok, I wanna be a girl then, because I like pink" He finds the colour pink aesthetically pleasing, and everyone around him is telling him pink is a girls colour, something that is completely culture based, he probably doesn't even understand what they're saying, he just thinks "Well I like pink, only girls can like pink? Okay I'm a girl" and the adults are somehow trying to pretend he's transgendered? They're trying to take him too seriously and bring the innocent comment of a child into an adult world for some reason, if it were any other parent, first they wouldn't be strictly enforcing gender stereotypes on him "Only girls can like pink! You arent a guy if you like pink!" and 2nd, they'd be logical and realize he doesn't even know what transgender MEANS, to him, he's been told only girls can like pink, and he likes pink, so therefore he assumes he MUST be a girl, just because his sexist as fuck parents told him that boys can't possibly like pink.

IT'S A TRAP!

[quote](...) And when Jackie was just ten years old, she went to her mom, crying. "I'm a girl and I can't do this anymore," Jackie said.[/quote] [img]http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/emoticons/emot-ughh.gif[/img]

[QUOTE=TheFilmSlacker;32049384]How do you even know what your sexuality is at 10 years old? He should be busy not pissing the bed and eating candy.[/QUOTE] Erm, that's not sexuality, that's gender. As in, they didn't go "I'm gay", they went "I'm not the gender I'm supposed to be. I'm a female, not a male". Sexuality has nothing to do with it. [editline]6th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Judas;32049370]Transgender ops shouldnt be legal until age 18.[/QUOTE] The kid isn't going to be getting an operation at an early age, that's fairly obvious. Operations like that are quite expensive and as such it will be a while before something happens. It would, however, be reasonable to(After the generally required therapist visit) put them on hormones, which could halt the male hormones and essentially cause a puberty with female hormones(Taken likely through pills, of course. [editline]6th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Artyom;32049429]---~~~"""im a girl trapped in a guy's body"""~~~--- i hate hearing that, it's just, ugh.[/QUOTE] What do you dislike about it? It may be a poor way to put it, but at least it gets the idea across. [editline]6th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Arachnidus;32049465]That's bullshit. Nobody is born in the wrong body. Transgenderism is a neural defect, and shouldn't be addressed radically by surgery or medical therapy until emotional and mental maturity is reached. Somebody suffering at 10 may come to terms with it by 20. If an operation is done before that point, then a lot of money and time could have been wasted and a lot of pain and suffering could have been avoided for patient and family. However, if, by the time of psychological maturity, the boy or girl is set on choosing the operation, then go for it. It's therapeutic and if it helps them be happy in life, there should be no law against it. That's why I'm a little disturbed by this.[/QUOTE] A couple things. 1. The only proper and effective cure for GID(Gender Identity Disorder) so far has been hormone replacement therapy(HRT). Surgery isn't generally considered until after a certain amount of time presenting as female. 2. Of course, a cis person knows all about how GID works and is cured, and knows that it's obviously just a bullshit neural defect. [editline]6th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Wam;32049690]Liking certain colours and liking doing certain things is nothing to do with his gender identity. We only think pink is a girl colour because our culture tells us it is, for all we know, he just finds it aesthetically pleasing, theres nothing 'girly' about it. Telling him he's a girl because he finds certain colours and clothing aesthetically pleasing is absolutely retarded, and is going to fuck this kid, who is probably perfectly fine with being a guy, its just his parents go 'you like pink and dolls? YOU MUST BE A GIRL INSIDE'[/QUOTE] Notably, the kid came to them and said it, not the otherway around. [editline]6th September 2011[/editline] [QUOTE=Arachnidus;32049711]But it [B]is[/B] a defect, in the same way that depression or OCD is a defect. It's a neurological defect that causes a psychological condition. It doesn't seem right to subject a 10 year old to hormone therapy and radical sex change surgeries, that are both costly and immensely exhausting- taking possibly years to fully complete. What should be done, is counseling. There are psychologists trained, specifically, in treating transgender or gender-concerned individuals. That should be done, treatment to help the person along. Sex change operations should be the last resort, not the first. If somebody is uncomfortable with their body, they should be helped to come to terms with that before they go off doing something very, very invasive. However, if, in the end, it winds up that they just can't help them and a surgery is all that remains, than so be it. If they are willing and it can be done safely, then there's no reason it shouldn't be done...but only after every contingency is exhausted.[/QUOTE] I'm not sure you understand just how hard a sex-change operation is to get. Maybe you've been watching too much south park, I don't know. Unlike your fantasy world, transgender people who are attempted to be counseled and whatnot to be their birth gender and whatnot generally end up killing themselves. The only treatment that works properly is HRT, and possibly an eventual Sex-change(SRS). Now, to get HRT, you need a month or two of therapy, first, from which you can get a note saying that it's okay for you to be on HRT. Then, you take this note to an endocrinologist, who has blood work done, to determine specific dosages and needs. From then on, you get bloodwork every once in a while, and take hormones the rest of your life. To get SRS, you have to have been, in general, presenting constantly as the opposite gender for at least a year, if not more. And that doesn't even include how long it can take to raise money to get SRS, because insurance generally doesn't cover it(or HRT, in many cases). It's not something done rashly. [editline]6th September 2011[/editline] Sorry about the long reply, guys. It's just something I dislike seeing people being so blatantly ignorant and assholish about.

So fuckin weird lol

Also, guys who have a problem with women that were genetically men at some point. Why? I guess you're just afraid of what you think is being gay(A literal sort of homophobia). You seem to have this latent belief that they are still guys, and you are freaked out by this, despite any other normal attraction to them. I mean hell, look at that picture someone posted of Kim Petras. She's incredibly attractive, and having been genetically male doesn't change that.

I think Grandpa Richard had a good point. Also where is this small town?

[QUOTE=Wam;32049690]Liking certain colours and liking doing certain things is nothing to do with his gender identity. We only think pink is a girl colour because our culture tells us it is, for all we know, he just finds it aesthetically pleasing, theres nothing 'girly' about it. Telling him he's a girl because he finds certain colours and clothing aesthetically pleasing is absolutely retarded, and is going to fuck this kid, who is probably perfectly fine with being a guy, its just his parents go 'you like pink and dolls? YOU MUST BE A GIRL INSIDE'[/QUOTE] I remember I loved playing with my friend's miniature town doll thingy's. Racing the bicycler down the sidewalk was the best thing ever.