• Shock as leaked video depicts the Police brutality against a cop-spitter, Maine vows to never let it
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WTF IS WRONG WITH PEOPLE
Spitting on an officer is actually a felony, guys. He didn't deserve to be tortured, but I'd pepper spray him too
[QUOTE=urbanmonkey;40015017]Spitting on an officer is actually a felony, guys. He didn't deserve to be tortured, but I'd pepper spray him too[/QUOTE] sorry for your crippling lack of ethics
I feel like I'm getting just one side of the story here, also how does pepper spray to make him more cooperative and a spit guard constitute torture?
Horrible. He sprays him with mace, he struggles to breathe and complains while the officer says "Keep talking and breathing". So if he stops breathing and dies, only then will he be heard? What a great ambassador for the police..
[QUOTE=Lazor;40015034]sorry for your crippling lack of ethics[/QUOTE] Sorry you led your argument with an ad hominem. It's just the way things work, this guy couldn't have thought that spitting on on officer wouldn't be met with some sort of resistance. Mace is a lot less than a tazer, and if could not be physically subdued then mace is the next step. I never said I would torture the guy, I really was speaking in a much broader sense. In any case, if someone spits on an officer, or anyone for that matter, steps will be taken in resistance.
do you even know what an ad hominem is
[QUOTE=urbanmonkey;40015299]Sorry you led your argument with an ad hominem. It's just the way things work, this guy couldn't have thought that spitting on on officer wouldn't be met with some sort of resistance. Mace is a lot less than a tazer, and if could not be physically subdued then mace is the next step. I never said I would torture the guy, I really was speaking in a much broader sense. In any case, if someone spits on an officer, or anyone for that matter, steps will be taken in resistance.[/QUOTE] Keep in mind it was OC spray designed for a crowd at several feet. Not for one person at point blank.
Yeah you're right, not a good example. Either way, all I was getting at is that it is not as unethical as you seem to think.
Damn captain, that mask is just holding in the pepper spray, so it in fact is making harder to breath.
[QUOTE=TheMustacheHero;40014872]My roommate was watching a cop show called Alaskan State Troopers, which is pretty much COPS: Alaska edition, but anyways, the criminal guy was drunk and bleeding from the mouth and then he spat on the cop who was trying to arrest him. The cop ended up getting tested for HIV and it was positive, after that the cop left the show. Saliva won't trigger a disease, but if you're bleeding from the mouth then spitting will certainly potentially harm someone.[/QUOTE] Uh, I remember that episode, and I'm pretty sure he wasn't positive. Not saying you can't get positive from someone spitting blood on ya, but I believe that cop wasn't positive.
[QUOTE=AK'z;40015239]Horrible. He sprays him with mace, he struggles to breathe and complains while the officer says "Keep talking and breathing". So if he stops breathing and dies, only then will he be heard? What a great ambassador for the police..[/QUOTE] He was saying, "If you're talking, you're breathing." If you couldn't breathe, you would have no ability to talk. He probably did have difficulty breathing, but that is part of what OC does. They shouldn't have sprayed him, but at the same time, he should not have resisted like he did.
[QUOTE=Funcoot;40016606]He probably did have difficulty breathing[/QUOTE] that was the point I was making. If he stopped breathing, he'd not only lose the ability to talk, he'd die. If someone struggles to breathe in this situation it's pure torture and nothing else.
[QUOTE=Jurikuer;40008630]Prisons are for rehabilitation. Not torture.[/QUOTE] thats what they should be for, anyway. The whole rehabilitation thing got thrown out awhile ago unfortunately.
"[I]Burnheimer fired Welch and denied his appeal, saying he had discussed it with Ponte, according to department documents. But Ponte said last week that Welch was never actually fired.[/I]" So does the dickhead still have a job? [editline]24th March 2013[/editline] [QUOTE=Funcoot;40016606]He was saying, "If you're talking, you're breathing." If you couldn't breathe, you would have no ability to talk. He probably did have difficulty breathing, but that is part of what OC does. They shouldn't have sprayed him, but at the same time, he should not have resisted like he did.[/QUOTE] He had that OC canister dangling from his hand in the entire video up until he used it at the first hint of a reason to do so. If you read the article you would also know that the inmate is mentally ill and on who knows what medication, the entire situation arose because he had lacerated his left arm in order to get more medicine and a book to distract himself, and kept removing the wrapping, in order for it to not heal. not the kind of person who knows when to resist or not, the guards knew this too.
[QUOTE=Chaohord;40008566]People who can't handle their power shouldn't have it in the first place[/QUOTE] If that were true, about 90% of all forum moderators on the internet would cease to exist. You guys are pretty cool, but people like GameFAQs or BnG? Pfft.
[QUOTE=Jurikuer;40008630] Prisons are for rehabilitation. Not torture.[/QUOTE] No one in America prisons are getting rehabilitated because they are mixing with people from their gangs or joining up with people who did similar crimes to them, they find prison and inconvenience
I can understand the spit net and chair, but why mace the guy when he is already restrained. I thought pepper spray was meant to gain control, not to punish. I am surprised nobody has brought up Zimbardo's prison experiment, people in power often abuse that power without even realizing it.
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