Russia: Putin accuses the United States of being a parasitic nation on the global economy
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[QUOTE=Gekkosan;31487012]Lmao, the US people spend a WHOLE lot more resources, food and money on products that comes from oil and the industries that are built on loaned money, and overpowered army that is burning millions on end. Americans are much hungrier consumers than most others too.
You are dumb, also some man like Putin he went through the siege of Stalingrad, which lasted like 4 years. The first winter during the siege there was no electricity, heating or running water in the city. Over 600,000 people died. And where's America at again?[/QUOTE]
Yes, some men like Putin also doctored the invasion of Finland, your point being?
[QUOTE=CommieTurtle;31488910]Hopefully somebody remembered to keep a save game back before the second Iraq War in case the economy collapses.
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In all seriousness our politics got old a long time ago and they need to become less of a pissing match and more of, yano, actually governing with some common sense.[/QUOTE]
While barely regulated wall street blindly digs itself further and further into a hole.
[QUOTE=Zambies!;31488932]Yes, some men like Putin also doctored the invasion of Finland, your point being?[/QUOTE]
And the US doesn't has it share of bullshit wars?
[QUOTE=Mabus;31484486]As I recall since the end of the USSR they never had it "good" to begin with, they have constantly suffered economic depression, even during the communist days it was bad. Still though he has a point.[/QUOTE]
It was economic mismanagement starting in Brezhnev's time that caused it; Gorbachev's reforms were just too little, too late and we played on their Operation Barbarossa fears by convincing them that they needed such an overbloated military budget into bankruptcy.
Hey Putin, which country has a large number of citizens using a drug that literally erodes their flesh? Take care of that before you talk to the US
Relax guys, Putin is just having a flashback to being in the KGB. He will cool off in about 5 minutes. Meanwhile once everyone is looking at the US he should probably be working on that whole trying to fix HIS economy thing.
In essence, he is throwing the stone at another country that is in a near identical economic situation.
[QUOTE=kaine123;31481056]Yeah because we don't have a right to have an economy.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, because that's totally what Putin meant.
[QUOTE=Sottalytober;31492660]Hey Putin, which country has a large number of citizens using a drug that literally erodes their flesh? Take care of that before you talk to the US[/QUOTE]
And which country has the highest prison population? Hint, it's not Russia.
[QUOTE=certified;31492880]In essence, he is throwing the stone at another country that is in a near identical economic situation.[/QUOTE]
It's not even close to "identical economic situation".
Check out the debt for example:
[IMG]http://img6.imageshack.us/img6/686/debtratings.png[/IMG]
Also, check out the foreign exchange reserves:
[IMG]http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8648/reserves.png[/IMG]
How can you call it a near identical economic situation?
[QUOTE=Sottalytober;31492660]Hey Putin, which country has a large number of citizens using a drug that literally erodes their flesh? Take care of that before you talk to the US[/QUOTE]
Don't really see how that is relevant. The US debt, and failure to quickly come to an agreement is something that affects the whole world. The drug issues in Russia, while a issue, are not a problem on the same international level.
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;31484392]But the US are protecting the free world, we should let them off[/QUOTE]
I was kidding, by the way
America is that staple in the worlds Stability and Instability. Without the US the rest of the world would begin falling apart or eventually become Chinese-owned mined-out wastelands.
[QUOTE=amute;31492962]And which country has the highest prison population? Hint, it's not Russia.[/QUOTE]
Which country has a larger population? Hint, it's not Russia.
[QUOTE=Ogopogo;31493131]Don't really see how that is relevant. The US debt, and failure to quickly come to an agreement is something that affects the whole world. The drug issues in Russia, while a issue, are not a problem on the same international level.[/QUOTE]
It could easily become a problem internationaly. And it started due to Russia's poor economic state.
[QUOTE=Sottalytober;31493484]Which country has a larger population? Hint, it's not Russia.
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even taking into account the higher population, USA has a higher convicts:free men ratio than most other countries
[QUOTE=Atlascore;31493741]We have 310 million people, they have 142 million, of course we have more people in prison you idiot.
I'm getting sick of these retarded comparisons, here's another one from way back "herp derp china has more scientists than the US!!! :downs:"[/QUOTE]
Speaking of prisoners, did you know that USA 've got most serial killers per citizen than any other country?
[QUOTE=Marbalo;31493807]Hey US, how about you fix Detroit before you try to defend yourself.
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See how irrelevant and idiotic that sounds? Just because you saw a thread about it on FP doesn't make you an expert on the matter.
Also dont act as if the US doesn't have an equally if not an even bigger problem with drug users and drug trufficking.[/QUOTE]
Oh god what a wasteland!
[img]http://i.bnet.com/blogs/detroit_skyline.jpg[/img]
Not. I can google shitty pictures of Russia too. There's poor people everywhere. Oh and the US does have a drug problem, but none of them cause necrotizing flesh.
Oh and if consider alcohol a drug which many users like to do when they argue about the legality of weed, Russia wins in the drug category.
[QUOTE=doonbugie2;31487477]I like how one of you is basically saying the US has plenty of money to spend when you're 15Tn in debt.[/QUOTE]
It's true :(
Our Canadian neighbors know us so well.
[QUOTE=Noble;31486241]Fix your own economy, then talk shit[/QUOTE]
Someone's pride got hurt?
[QUOTE=Marbalo;31494188]You do realize Krokodil was invented in the United States in 1932 right?[/QUOTE]
Invented does not equal used. The mustache protector was invented in Britain, but you don't see every english man wearing [img]http://estb.msn.com/i/AC/48ACBF2CB1EBD3A8E58CBD840A7E7.jpg[/img]
[QUOTE=Marbalo;31494333]You argue that no drug exists in the US that necroses flesh (which is an absurdly idiotic statement to make, regardless), It had 70 years of existence in the US which mean it must have been used by many and was trafficked for decades until it reached the shores of Russia.
Hence, your statement is invalid.[/QUOTE]
I didn't say it doesn't exist, I said it's not widely used. Much bigger deal in Russia because they're poorer and use it in lieu of heroin. Something which people in the US can apparently afford to kill themselves with.
[QUOTE=Marbalo;31494492]Yup. Russia is just one big poor hillbilly village with vodka and Krokodil drugs. :downs:
Unlike the good old United States of America with its rich population of drug addicts that can afford luxurious drugs such as heroin.
News flash, it's not widespread in Russia. It's just a drug that gets a lot of publicity because it has only just now been discovered by the mass media and it has pretty shocking effects on the human body. That doesn't mean it's widely used in Russia.
You are quite misinformed and biased, really.[/QUOTE]
Really? Cause every website i've seen seems to point to krokodil being used in Russia far more then any country. Oh and here's a quote from the DEA.
[quote]"We're looking at it overseas, but we have not seen it yet in the U.S.," DEA spokesman Rusty Payne told FoxNews.com
Read more: [url]http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/06/28/dea-now-monitoring-krokodil-deadly-morphine-derivative/#ixzz1TugSxVuB[/url]
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Is that to say it's not impossible to come to the US? It definitely could and easily. Right now it's all Russia baby. And it's easier for the US to get heroin which is why its more less widespread here.
And heres a quote from wikipedia.
[quote]This drug attracted attention in 2010 in Russia due to an upsurge in clandestine production, presumably due to its relatively simple synthesis from codeine[/quote]
The fuck do drugs have to do with global economy anyway
[QUOTE=Nerts;31484783]Just like the good old days.
[t]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5636656/cold_war__simple_version_by_angusmcleod-d34xw7j.jpg[/t][/QUOTE]why doesn't the uk have a monocle?
[QUOTE=STeel;31494611]The fuck do drugs have to do with global economy anyway[/QUOTE]
Steel's right anyway. Back to the actual article.
[QUOTE=Gekkosan;31487012]
You are dumb, also some man like Putin he went through the siege of Stalingrad, which lasted like 4 years. The first winter during the siege there was no electricity, heating or running water in the city. Over 600,000 people died. And where's America at again?[/QUOTE]
Putin wasnt alive during the siege of stalingrad
[QUOTE=Marbalo;31493807]Hey US, how about you fix Detroit before you try to defend yourself.[/QUOTE]
I think you mean every American suburb. It's not like it matters though, There's more important things, like taking away your food stamps, abolishing gay marriage, or saying the other guys are big doodoo heads.
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[QUOTE=Sottalytober;31494062]Oh god what a wasteland!
[img]http://i.bnet.com/blogs/detroit_skyline.jpg[/img]
Not. I can google shitty pictures of Russia too. There's poor people everywhere. Oh and the US does have a drug problem, but none of them cause necrotizing flesh.
Oh and if consider alcohol a drug which many users like to do when they argue about the legality of weed, Russia wins in the drug category.[/QUOTE]
Those buildings are old as fuck, the pipes they're using (including the ones underground giving them water, gas, etc.) are far beyond their date for replacement, and all the roads are covered with potholes and cracks.
[QUOTE=Shotacon;31495137]Those buildings are old as fuck, the pipes they're using (including the ones underground giving them water, gas, etc.) are far beyond their date for replacement, and all the roads are covered with potholes and cracks.[/QUOTE]
As Wikipedia says, [CITATION NEEDED].
By the way, as a Michigan resident (during the winter, anyway; I'm a hull maintenance technician for ships based out of Port Huron, though I have to travel to Detroit a lot), I do get around the state a lot. And the roadways are not covered with potholes and cracks; in the city, let alone even some of the more desolate ones out in the middle of nowhere.
[img]http://www.downtowndetroit.org/ddp/images/Detroit_GM_Renaissance_Center-3.jpg[/img]
Granted, Russia does have its own endogenous problems, but frankly, ALL countries have their share of economical, political or social problems. Russia may have problems with alcohol consumption and drug trafficking, but that does not mean they can't criticise the US. Putin [B]does[/B] have a point here, the US [B]has[/B] been living beyond their means, and consequently been amassing a huge debt. The fact that Russia, under Putin's administration greatly reduced the country's debt lends him credibility in this issue. Coming up with completely irrelevant (and extremely obscure) problems such as "an extremely small fraction of Russia's population uses a specific drug" does very little to reduce this credibility. Instead it takes away focus from the actual problem; the US's debt. If we were to apply this type of argument everytime, then you would only be able to criticise someone if you were completely impeccable. We should focus on discussing the actual issue instead of bitching about whose country is greater.
Man... why you got to be putin people down :(.
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