China to US: Cut the defence budget, live within your means, stop letting politics take the global e
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fuck yeah, china telling it how it is.
Can everyone pulll their hands out of their arse for one minute here. The US is in some deepshit because we are deficit spending. China has made a great point for everyone to look at. none of this "its a trap"; "they want to invade us" crap. China already owns us so there is no reason to invade they can just 'collect' their money and bam! the US is no more.
[QUOTE=Swilly;31586770]While I rarely agree with him. How can you trust a new source that is controlled and used to control the Chinese people?[/QUOTE]
What could they be lying about or even stretching the truth of?
[QUOTE=Swilly;31588012]Which is why I'd say once we pull out of Iraq and Afghanistan we ask for some of our NATO allies for a few officers to help train our soldiers because we've lost all information apparently. Because apparently no one seemed write it down.[/QUOTE]
It is a tendency in Western armies to suddenly forget the lessons we learn in military conflict. Part of it has to do how our society, built on Christian ethos where war is treated as an aberration. If it must be waged, then so be it, but once it is finished, it is forgotten.
As a consequence, here in the West, we have not developed any universally applicable theoretical structure for the organized study of war.
[QUOTE=Madman_Andre;31569587]China's opinion is irrelevant, because China is [I][B]COMMUNIST[/B][/I] and we all know that [I][B]COMMUNISM[/B][/I] is the worlst evil there is. :v:[/QUOTE]
I always laugh when people say that, because including a free market is socialism, not communism?
[QUOTE=kaine123;31593306]I always laugh when people say that, because including a free market is socialism, not communism?[/QUOTE]
Market socialist now, a step to the left than a few european coutnries
If really hate the communists ideology, but hey china your are right. Now stop fucking your own economy to.
[QUOTE=Sexy Eskimo;31594086]If really hate the communists ideology, but hey china your are right. Now stop fucking your own economy to.[/QUOTE]
What?
USA's military budget [url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_budget[/url] (scroll down)
my question is WHY? So frigging much of those money could've gone to social welfare for the people of the country yet you spend an unthinkable amount of numbers on arms that's not even necessary
[QUOTE=areolop;31589026]Can everyone pulll their hands out of their arse for one minute here. The US is in some deepshit because we are deficit spending. China has made a great point for everyone to look at. none of this "its a trap"; "they want to invade us" crap. China already owns us so there is no reason to invade they can just 'collect' their money and bam! the US is no more.[/QUOTE]
Saying China owns us is like me saying I own every tit in the US. Yeah I can try to collect them, but the end result is going to be pepperspray
When people think of the US military budget they do forget that the US' GDP is 3x larger than any other country in the world
But of course it's still too high
[QUOTE=Biotoxsin;31569397]It can be disputed, what does one consider to be a superpower?[/QUOTE]
Any country containing Ohio is a superpower.
[QUOTE=smurfy;31594339]When people think of the US military budget they do forget that the US' GDP is 3x larger than any other country in the world
But of course it's still too high[/QUOTE]
Did amute take your avatar and draw a Irish flag on top of the British flag?
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[QUOTE=mac338;31594414]Any country containing Ohio is a superpower.[/QUOTE]
Ohio sucks
[QUOTE=toaster468;31594439]Did amute take your avatar and draw a Irish flag on top of the British flag?[/QUOTE]
There are quite a few pictures floating around on the web of variants of that badge. There was an Irish version, US version, UK version, and so on.
So no, Amute didn't draw it.
[QUOTE=toaster468;31594439]Ohio sucks[/QUOTE]
You're only jealous because you're not a real Ohioer.
[QUOTE=Fort83;31570123]it isn't reliable. It can be easily changed. It's no wonder colleges and universities tell us not to use it[/QUOTE]
You've obviously never used a wiki. I used to edit the TF2wiki (a small fraction of editors there) and all users had an irc chat channel, and any edit was automatically posted in the chat, and one click was enough undo any changes.
Just imagine how difficult Wikipedia is.
[QUOTE=Dr_Funk;31577767]i'll believe it when i see a more credible source.
e: worth bearing in mind that US costs are higher also because they actually spend money on the general welfare of their citizenry[/QUOTE]Look out of your window you dumbfuck. 20% of your population is under the poverty line while everyone's busy not giving a shit, bashing bibles and trying to crash the country. Your prisons are loaded with the same people you exploit and force into crime. Your education is actually still trying to figure out Evolution VS bible, An issue the rest of the Western world solved 50 years ago! A ton of people Vote with their ass during elections based on who's got the less arabic name, biggest bible and most Ignorant world view. A credible source wouldn't do shit because It'd be ignored even if it was crammed up their ass and ruptured their intestine causing massive assbleeds.
The fact that up to 5% (sorry. I'm trying to be politically correct here. It seems closer to 35%) of your population has the educational level of an average Sudanese war-refugee is pretty shit. I mean, at least the refugees has the excuse of major shit going down while all YOU have is legal religious brainwashing and politics rivaling Paradise Hotel in rate of Stupid.
No. Ok, fine. NOTHING'S WRONG. Last week was just Ancient Aliens and Democrat Socialist Satanist Niggers. Nothing to see here. U.S. did NOT just almost default!
[QUOTE=toaster468;31594439]Did amute take your avatar and draw a Irish flag on top of the British flag?[/QUOTE]
Didn't I make amute's avatar for him? I think I might have
If living within your means equals living like a Chinese person than no thanks.
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[QUOTE=smurfy;31569240]• The article finishes by saying the US has lost the 'exuberant energy and innovation' which had assured its status as a world leader [b]'for centuries.'[/b][/QUOTE]
Also this makes no sense.
[QUOTE=smurfy;31596965]Didn't I make amute's avatar for him? I think I might have[/QUOTE]
Well, "make" as in find the Irish version of the badge, resize it and make it transparent.
[QUOTE=Bomimo;31596074]Look out of your window you dumbfuck. 20% of your population is under the poverty line while everyone's busy not giving a shit, bashing bibles and trying to crash the country. Your prisons are loaded with the same people you exploit and force into crime. Your education is actually still trying to figure out Evolution VS bible, An issue the rest of the Western world solved 50 years ago! A ton of people Vote with their ass during elections based on who's got the less arabic name, biggest bible and most Ignorant world view. A credible source wouldn't do shit because It'd be ignored even if it was crammed up their ass and ruptured their intestine causing massive assbleeds.
The fact that up to 5% of your population has the educational level of an average Sudanese war-refugee is pretty shit. I mean, at least the refugees has the excuse of major shit going down while all YOU have is legal religious brainwashing and politics rivaling Paradise Hotel in rate of Stupid.
No. Ok, fine. NOTHING'S WRONG. Last week was just Ancient Aliens and Democrat Socialist Satanist Niggers. Nothing to see here. U.S. did NOT just almost default![/QUOTE]
for the record, I agree
but it's hard to take you seriously with all the ass-rupturing and such
[QUOTE=Tac Error;31592047]It is a tendency in Western armies to suddenly forget the lessons we learn in military conflict. Part of it has to do how our society, built on Christian ethos where war is treated as an aberration. If it must be waged, then so be it, but once it is finished, it is forgotten.
As a consequence, here in the West, we have not developed any universally applicable theoretical structure for the organized study of war.[/QUOTE]
Is that for all western nations, because the European Conscription programs beg to differ.
And so would the Bundeswehr's brutal 2 week long training session they put every rifleman through.
[QUOTE=TBFundy;31597660]for the record, I agree
but it's hard to take you seriously with all the ass-rupturing and such[/QUOTE]It was an analogy. No pun intended. Some people won't listen to sense because they were brainwashed not to.
I award you a medal for processing and filtering what i said. The fact that you find me agreeable AND found me linguistically disgusting proves that you're capable of higher informational processing. Most people would either blindly root me on or latch on to the anal rupture part. The fact that you can find me agreeable even when i'm not checking my spelling and grammar also proves that you are capable of following the idea rather than the delivery of the idea. This is HIGHLY un-American!
[QUOTE=Sottalytober;31594282]Saying China owns us is like me saying I own every tit in the US. Yeah I can try to collect them, but the end result is going to be pepperspray[/QUOTE]
People will totally keep loaning you money if you go "lol come at me bro" when you have to pay back.
[QUOTE=Bomimo;31596074]Look out of your window you dumbfuck. 20% of your population is under the poverty line while everyone's busy not giving a shit, bashing bibles and trying to crash the country. Your prisons are loaded with the same people you exploit and force into crime. Your education is actually still trying to figure out Evolution VS bible, An issue the rest of the Western world solved 50 years ago! A ton of people Vote with their ass during elections based on who's got the less arabic name, biggest bible and most Ignorant world view. A credible source wouldn't do shit because It'd be ignored even if it was crammed up their ass and ruptured their intestine causing massive assbleeds.
The fact that up to 5% (sorry. I'm trying to be politically correct here. It seems closer to 35%) of your population has the educational level of an average Sudanese war-refugee is pretty shit. I mean, at least the refugees has the excuse of major shit going down while all YOU have is legal religious brainwashing and politics rivaling Paradise Hotel in rate of Stupid.
No. Ok, fine. NOTHING'S WRONG. Last week was just Ancient Aliens and Democrat Socialist Satanist Niggers. Nothing to see here. U.S. did NOT just almost default![/QUOTE]
Where the hell did you pull that statistic out your ass?
[QUOTE=Swilly;31599334]Where the hell did you pull that statistic out your ass?[/QUOTE]
Agreed, some actual numbers would be nice, and if they match up with your claims, would tidy up your argument quite a bit.
Swilly he is right even though he is presenting his thoughts in an offensive manner. Don't get "ass ruptured" :v:
[QUOTE=amute;31586636]I like how conservatives hate anything foreign so much that even if their own source says they said something, it's not true.
How do you get to these ridiculously stupid points, drfunk? It is outstandingly bizarre.
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is there an argument there or do you just want to sling mud lol
oh wait now i see it
you realise chinese media is state-run, right. it's hardly an objective source of views and information, or are you so anti-west that you're willing to forget that?
Dr Funk, government controlled media or not, China's message as USA's main creditor is completely legit. Democrats and republicans took the whole worlds economy hostage just by fighting over the resolution so long, I think that would have been pretty damn thrilling if I were one of their creditors wondering when the fuck will they sober up and save their country from catastrophe.
Edit: Sometimes it's better to take advice without getting ass ruptured when someone tries to tell us what to do.
[QUOTE=Falchion;31599941]Swilly he is right even though he is presenting his thoughts in an offensive manner. Don't get "ass ruptured" :v:[/QUOTE]
No, I want to see where the fuck that specific percent tile came from because I'm pretty sure whatever test or exam they gave us only measured one kind of intelligence.
If you're going to claim something monumentally insulting you better have facts to back it up.
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