NO ONE GIVES A RATS ASS WHAT YOU THINK ANY MORE GOOOO AWWWAAAAYYYY!!!!!!
[QUOTE=jonnymad;43186410]I just straight out think its a bad idea.[/QUOTE]
Cocky S.O.B aren't you, johnny. Get off your high horse mister.
I voted no but if it's optional who cares, I'll just stay on the servers with raiding on :)
EXACTLY![QUOTE=b0ne;43194301]I voted no but if it's optional who cares, I'll just stay on the servers with raiding on :)[/QUOTE]
Please close this post.
[QUOTE=prinler;43193920]Go away stupid troll. Go back to your GTA 5. Go try to make up for your small mind and small other things. Your 2 cents are no longer welcome here. You think just because you get the last word in you win. JUST STFU ALREADY![/QUOTE]
yeah you disagree with him but you haven't really backed up any of your arguments except for calling someone who doesnt share your opinion a stupid troll.
[QUOTE=prinler;43194398]EXACTLY!
Please close this post.[/QUOTE]
Well, I rather the devs see more votes here and make their own calculations. eventually, this option will not ruin anyone's gameplay so even if 100 voted no and 60 voted yes, that's still a big part of people might play this type of servers, and even buy new ones. no lose here.
So, i don't mind if they close the thread, it's about the votes votes.
thank you for supporting though.
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;43194454]yeah you disagree with him but you haven't really backed up any of your arguments except for calling someone who doesnt share your opinion a stupid troll.[/QUOTE]
I suggest reading the first reply on this thread made by jonny.
[QUOTE=Warden;43194464]
I suggest reading the first reply on this thread made by jonny.[/QUOTE]
yeah, the difference is that that was his first post, and has since explained his reasoning. prinler registered to the forums to call a user a jackass, and has since shown no sign of integrity behind his posts, continuing to just post accusations or attempted 'comebacks'
[QUOTE=HybridTheroy;43194547]yeah, the difference is that that was his first post, and has since explained his reasoning. prinler registered to the forums to call a user a jackass, and has since shown no sign of integrity behind his posts, continuing to just post accusations or attempted 'comebacks'[/QUOTE]
I see your point.
But it's the same as saying "[B]alright, lets hop on suggestion threads and call people idiots. if they fight back, lets explain why[/B]".
And why? because I have 890 forum posts and i'm smarter than this guy who just joined the forums.
And the list of stuff I can say goes on:
lets call them kids, i'm probally older because they have bad english.
lets tell them to f* off and play another game.
lets tell them to make their own game if they don't like this one.
Two things i want to point out here.
One.
Even if this option was added, i wish for my sake it already had been, i would join your server and blow your walls, just to be a prick, turning off destructible doors would certainly not make me stop raiding, only mean i need more resources to do so.
Two
[QUOTE]The game is, at its core, a survival game. If you're trying to amass some crazy wealth beyond necessities, you're missing the point.[/QUOTE]
I don't completely agree with that statement, id say if your living comfortably because you amassed crazy wealth, then your probably actually getting the point better than most.
There are several ways to make sure you don't loose everything when you get raided. Work that out and you'll be much happier.
[QUOTE=Warden;43194596]I see your point.
But it's the same as saying "[B]alright, lets hop on suggestion threads and call people idiots. if they fight back, lets explain why[/B]".
And why? because I have 890 forum posts and i'm smarter than this guy who just joined the forums.
And the list of stuff I can say goes on:
lets call them kids, i'm probally older because they have bad english.
lets tell them to f* off and play another game.
lets tell them to make their own game if they don't like this one.[/QUOTE]
He called him an idiot and prompted to leave it at that because it should only take common sense to see that the suggestions in the OP is completely ridiculous and would ruin the game. even if it was just an option for server owners. any self-respecting developer would not take part in the unbalancing of his/her own game
[editline]15th December 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=LMNTil;43194708]Two things i want to point out here.
One.
Even if this option was added, i wish for my sake it already had been, i would join your server and blow your walls, just to be a prick, turning off destructible doors would certainly not make me stop raiding, only mean i need more resources to do so.
Two
I don't completely agree with that statement, id say if your living comfortably because you amassed crazy wealth, then your probably actually getting the point better than most.
There are several ways to make sure you don't loose everything when you get raided. Work that out and you'll be much happier.[/QUOTE]
Actually, you would be completely missing the point. this is a survival game not a resource collecting game. if a person is able to get to the point where nobody can raid him and he is just gathering a bunch of stuff and sitting on it, ALL BY HIMSELF, it's due to an unbalanced game
[QUOTE=LMNTil;43194708]Two things i want to point out here.
One.
Even if this option was added, i wish for my sake it already had been, i would join your server and blow your walls, just to be a prick, turning off destructible doors would certainly not make me stop raiding, only mean i need more resources to do so.
Two
I don't completely agree with that statement, id say if your living comfortably because you amassed crazy wealth, then your probably actually getting the point better than most.
There are several ways to make sure you don't loose everything when you get raided. Work that out and you'll be much happier.[/QUOTE]
Oh noes, you see here is me making another mistake.
I didn't know you can blow up houses, can you?
Well, if you followed the thread you get my point >
On these servers, let people stockpile and do whatever the fuck they want with their own house.
Basicly, no allowing house raids.
And yeah, i'm probally that much of a noob that I still haven't found any good way to protect my house.
Because probally, at later stage with joining a big clan, we'll need 150 doors so raiders will be too cheap to waste 300 C4's just to blow them up.
The idea as it is:
turning raids off on modded server if you have metal/brick walls in your house.
I wouldn't mind having houses destructible if their made out of wood.
and this IS a resource collecting game. that's what you're doing now.. just that it can be raided every moment and you might lose your shit.
it's too hardcore, this is what i don't like.
I like the game, and i'm going to play it, but i'm stating how frustrating it is. and if you don't see my point, just wait a while and you'll understand it eventually... because you'll get tired of losing stuff and starting again all over time after time.
and if it's not a resource collecting game and i'm wrong, why not making it? what's so bad about it if its on another server far away from where you're playing at? same game, different rules.
[QUOTE=Warden;43194878]
and if it's not a resource collecting game and i'm wrong, why not making it? what's so bad about it if its on another server far away from where you're playing at? same game, different rules.[/QUOTE]
because the developers didn't plan on making a resource gathering competition game, and aren't going to change their games core mechanics because people think it is too hardcore.
if you just cant handle the fact that you are always at risk of having all the progress you've worked on being destroyed and/or stolen, and can't see the amount of fun and intensity that it brings, then maybe the game just isn't for you
[QUOTE=Warden;43194878]Oh noes, you see here is me making another mistake.
I didn't know you can blow up houses, can you?
Well, if you followed the thread you get my point >
On these servers, let people stockpile and do whatever the fuck they want with their own house.
Basicly, no allowing house raids.
And yeah, i'm probally that much of a noob that I still haven't found any good way to protect my house.
Because probally, at later stage with joining a big clan, we'll need 150 doors so raiders will be too cheap to waste 300 C4's just to blow them up.
The idea as it is:
turning raids off on modded server if you have metal/brick walls in your house.
I wouldn't mind having houses destructible if their made out of wood.
and this IS a resource collecting game. that's what you're doing now.. just that it can be raided every moment and you might lose your shit.
it's too hardcore, this is what i don't like.
I like the game, and i'm going to play it, but i'm stating how frustrating it is. and if you don't see my point, just wait a while and you'll understand it eventually... because you'll get tired of losing stuff and starting again all over time after time.
and if it's not a resource collecting game and i'm wrong, why not making it? what's so bad about it if its on another server far away from where you're playing at? same game, different rules.[/QUOTE]
What OP has been doing all this time is fighting a lost argument because he believes he'd have more fun with the game if he couldn't lose any of his stuff.
What he really needs to do is just sit down and think about what hes asking for a second or two instead of having the tunnel vision on "i'm right, raiders are jerks!!"
If you have an indestructible house, you can gather all the materials you want, and if you get shot at you can run into your little safe house where the world will stop following you.
What you will soon realize is that your guns, your mods, your grenades, the airdrops, [I]All lose their meaning[/I] when you can just "turn off the survival button"
Why jon flamed you and why i flamed you and why hybrid calming flamed you is because we DO see that there are a community of your kind of players. And we have seen them since we played Dayz, or warz, or whatever got us hooked on survival mmo's.
[I]You are the cancer that jeopardizes what makes this game so powerful[/I]
So you can crawl back into the "well it was only a suggestion for an option" argument, and from that perspective you are totally right and no one can prove you wrong. But from a mechanical perspective, you are so wrong its gross to us
[QUOTE=Warden;43193950]Ok, for the last time. because you probally don't know how to read, or you are just too obbsessed with this thread that you just can't leave it alone.
What you're doing here is crusifying me because you don't like my idea.
now you're saying that you don't want to see this on official servers, i never said official server. i keep telling you over and over, i meant adding an option so people who are going to buy a server, choose if they want to turn it or on off.
and you're still against me or any other person that would like to play this mod and fun in their own way.
you keep telling us how that's a bad idea, that you don't like it, while nobody here actually care about what you think.
you know what? even if i was viewing a thread like this and i didn't like the idea, i wouldn't say no to it if i see another person enjoying it while it has no harm over my game.
You know what?! I WOULDN'T CALL THE OP AN IDIOT.
i don't see how the no sleepers mod that has been running on few servers nowdays harms you and bothers your gameplay. same as my idea.
I really don't see why you keep coming back here, let it go man. you think i care that much of what will happen eventually? if you weren't such an D' (excuse me for my manners), you wouldn't care that they add that option for the other community that might want to play on these kind of servers.
at this point i'm just enjoying this lovely thread.[/QUOTE]
Check your private messages, I sent you a message of apology, I was way out of line, and I guess I didn't really realize it. When I get going, I find it difficult to stop, guess I got problems that way. To everyone else here I insulted, I do apologize and I will attempt to be more civil in my criticisms in the future.
This thread is funny.
Just wondering if we could have a server options, where instead of guns that shoot bullets, they shoot kisses and flowers instead.
[QUOTE=ill1cit;43195818]This thread is funny.
Just wondering if we could have a server options, where instead of guns that shoot bullets, they shoot kisses and flowers instead.[/QUOTE]
I want a server option to switch bears and wolves with puppies and baby pandas
and turn our dicks into candy canes
'tis the season!
[QUOTE] Just wondering if we could have a server options, where instead of guns that shoot bullets, they shoot kisses and flowers instead. [/QUOTE]
Aim that gun at my uncensored penis please.
Warden i understand where your coming from. But it does take time away from devs working on game improvements. I think what this game brings back for me is the risk, that's why its exciting and frustrating. If you want some pointers or advise add me on steam and ill show you the ropes, i think you'll agree after you see how others play the game, its much more exciting when risk is involved.
[QUOTE=Jackbronuts;43195435]What OP has been doing all this time is fighting a lost argument because he believes he'd have more fun with the game if he couldn't lose any of his stuff.
What he really needs to do is just sit down and think about what hes asking for a second or two instead of having the tunnel vision on "i'm right, raiders are jerks!!"
If you have an indestructible house, you can gather all the materials you want, and if you get shot at you can run into your little safe house where the world will stop following you.
What you will soon realize is that your guns, your mods, your grenades, the airdrops, [I]All lose their meaning[/I] when you can just "turn off the survival button"
Why jon flamed you and why i flamed you and why hybrid calming flamed you is because we DO see that there are a community of your kind of players. And we have seen them since we played Dayz, or warz, or whatever got us hooked on survival mmo's.
[I]You are the cancer that jeopardizes what makes this game so powerful[/I]
So you can crawl back into the "well it was only a suggestion for an option" argument, and from that perspective you are totally right and no one can prove you wrong. But from a mechanical perspective, you are so wrong its gross to us[/QUOTE]
I read what you said, and I even (For a second, while reading your well explained first lines) tried look on things from your prespective view.
but then, I see you calling me Cancer and then everything goes red.
Jonny and I apologized to each other over PM. I believe that we both realized that this is just a game, and frankly, i couldn't care any less of what's gonna happen eventually.
But you sir, Fuck you. and if I ever get banned for anything i said here, I believe you should get banned too for saying such word.
[QUOTE] Actually, you would be completely missing the point. this is a survival game not a resource collecting game. if a person is able to get to the point where nobody can raid him and he is just gathering a bunch of stuff and sitting on it, ALL BY HIMSELF, it's due to an unbalanced game.[/QUOTE]
Wait, i never said nobody could raid them? I specifically said "There are many ways to make sure you don't lose everything when you get raided.". If you couldn't be raided that would be due to an unbalanced game, but if being raided hasn't greatly affected you, then your obviously surviving quiet well. Maybe you just missed my point :)
What would be the point of the game if you can't raid anyone and anyone can't raid you? Would be same as any other generic shooter, except that in games like BF you unlock guns, where in Rust you craft them.
And what would be the purpose of building anything bigger than 1x1? You won't need to craft expensive items like C4 as you can't use it, so no need to hunt pigs for fat, no need to gather wood as only thing you need to make is kev, m4 and 556 ammo and then game turns into another boring COD gameplay.
This idea is not needed. When you have bandits, you brutally destroy them. You band heroes together and you kill every last damn one that exists on your server until none DARE even try raiding for fear that they might get the whole server coming at their own ground. I tried my own way of dealing with bandits and it worked....don't go to ways of ruining the game...KILL the bandits...get some guys together and END them. I did it and my base hasn't been touched for 3 days straight on a server that is ALWAYS active with at least 10 players and up.
Edit: In other words, people don't mess with others who have connections to an army.
[QUOTE=explow4r;43185972]Congrats on the most care-bear post I've ever seen!
*installs survival game*
*survival is too hard*
*"please turn off survival mode"*
lmfao get outta here clown. Funny though.[/QUOTE]
Bro you made my day XD
[editline]15th December 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Warden;43194878]Oh noes, you see here is me making another mistake.
I didn't know you can blow up houses, can you?
Well, if you followed the thread you get my point >
On these servers, let people stockpile and do whatever the fuck they want with their own house.
Basicly, no allowing house raids.
And yeah, i'm probally that much of a noob that I still haven't found any good way to protect my house.
Because probally, at later stage with joining a big clan, we'll need 150 doors so raiders will be too cheap to waste 300 C4's just to blow them up.
The idea as it is:
turning raids off on modded server if you have metal/brick walls in your house.
I wouldn't mind having houses destructible if their made out of wood.
and this IS a resource collecting game. that's what you're doing now.. just that it can be raided every moment and you might lose your shit.
it's too hardcore, this is what i don't like.
I like the game, and i'm going to play it, but i'm stating how frustrating it is. and if you don't see my point, just wait a while and you'll understand it eventually... because you'll get tired of losing stuff and starting again all over time after time.
and if it's not a resource collecting game and i'm wrong, why not making it? what's so bad about it if its on another server far away from where you're playing at? same game, different rules.[/QUOTE]
The aspect of this game where there is no penalty for disadvantaging others to your own game is identical to reality. Point is, if we as a species were reduced to this, youd be FUCKED bro. If you dont like real life, too bad.
Personally I think we should. If it makes the game more enjoyable for a group of players than more power to them.
Everyone elses opinion about how "It makes it not a survival game! waaaaaaaaa!" is flaming or just to stupid to realize it effects them in no way what so ever.
[QUOTE]You are the cancer that jeopardizes what makes this game so powerful[/QUOTE]
i have to say you sir are stupid, DayZ,WarZ are nothing like rust and if u think they are u are just plain mad...yes dayz is a survival shooter, same with warz...However its not a MMO as you so call it as this is, dayz,warz are shooters with survival aspects most of it though is a massive map with lots of people and zombies, Rust is not a massive map, its not about trying to survive, its about kills and how fast you get them or how many naked people u kill before you log off, wait sorry u cant log off its a sleeper game your char is still there anynother thing DAYZ and WARZ wont have or will ever do. people that want to play "survival" not "kill the naked guys" are not at all ruining your gameplay i like both aspects and i wont lie i killed quite a few naked people just for standing outside my house in the mid of night. comparing this to a game like warz is ridiculous and absurd and dayz well thats not even a full game yet its still only a mod for arma 2 so that is not even in the same class as warz, its a Shooter Simulator with Zombies. i said it before and ill say it again, Survival isnt about running around with guns killing people on sight, its about avoiding conflict by stealth and making a life after society has fallen.
sur·viv·al noun, often attributive \sər-ˈvī-vəl\
: the state or fact of continuing to live or exist especially in spite of difficult conditions
: something from an earlier period that still exists or is done
Full Definition of SURVIVAL
1
a : the act or fact of living or continuing longer than another person or thing
b : the continuation of life or existence <problems of survival in arctic conditions>
2
: one that survives
Examples of SURVIVAL
The refugees depend on foreign aid for their survival.
Small businesses are fighting for survival.
the survival of an old folktale
no where does it say in that survival is running around killing people for a piece of wood. this topic should be closed the amount of people flaming and trolling the OP is out of hand, if he wants to play how he wants let him it wont affect how you or i play in anyway.
Just to simply end this I see this stupid shit every day, is it really that hard to LET the option be added in but NEVER play with it? Really? Let me give you an example, Elder Scrolls Skyrim, half the fans wanted co-op, while the other half, the single player fan base said no because it would ruin the point of the game, realistically now a days people are too selfish about what they want instead of thinking about the whole thing, its really simple, if you don't like it don't play it, otherwise let it go and move on if you can't handle a optional feature.
there just needs to be a blast door that takes like 10 c4 to get through. i would imagine it being very hard to craft. like 1000 metal fragments or something...
[QUOTE=Warden;43182877]Go f yourself i payed 20$ for this game and i'm allowed to have fun in my own way and say what I want.
calling me an idiot for saying whats on my mind without bothering others? i'm asking for an OPTION TO TURN ON AND OFF.
I'll play on my favorite servers, and you where ever you want.
are you better then me because you have 800 posts in this forum? telling me to go play something else? what are you so pissed off about? because the game got on steam and people are now buying it and suggesting ideas?
deal with it, you don't like it, go play something else, kid. maybe mindcraft.
douchebag
+1[/QUOTE]
U did indeed pay 20 dollars for the game. A game with a trailer and probly some gameplay videos. U knew how the game would be.
If i'd buy hello kitty world for a set amount of money, i cant complain on their forums that their game is lame and childish.
The game is ment to be a hardcore survival game. taking away the ability to break open someones door(btw if u put 2 C4 on a wooden wall they get in anywayz) then whats the point of playing this game?
You wanna hunt animals? theres a game called deer hunter --> great for killing deers.
You wanna collect shit and build stuff? Mine craft.
Cant really die in those games. Better luck next time u purchase a game.
P.S to the guy who posted about my comparison of Dayz, warz and Rust. Garry has said many times he took large inspiration from Dayz. He even is quoted saying in its early alpha it was just a carbon copy of it
(what an honest guy) But you're still right, they arnt the same. (which wasn't my point at all really, i was talking about games we played BEFORE rust)
[editline]16th December 2013[/editline]
[QUOTE=Warden;43196316]I read what you said, and I even (For a second, while reading your well explained first lines) tried look on things from your prespective view.
but then, I see you calling me Cancer and then everything goes red.
Jonny and I apologized to each other over PM. I believe that we both realized that this is just a game, and frankly, i couldn't care any less of what's gonna happen eventually.
But you sir, Fuck you. and if I ever get banned for anything i said here, I believe you should get banned too for saying such word.[/QUOTE]
It seems you are overreacting to my word choice, which makes sense its why you made the thread in the first place. (you can't handle little frustrations)
I'm sure almost all of us have dealt with [I]cancer[/I] at some point in our lives, quit being such a whiney baby about everything.
You're being really dramatic man and I hope you see my perspective on that aswell, theres no reason for you to get banned, or anyone else. It's a thread on an open forum for an M-rated game. We should be able to talk like adults and if we feel like it, argue like adults. You could've stop coming back to the thread at any time, you didn't. and neither did any of us. You made one of the biggest threads on here in a while. Even if it has 30 something dumb boxes, that is still something to write home about.
With that being said, i'm glad you did that. and you're 100% right if this feature was added i wouldn't mind, but the feature you're asking for is extremely controversial because it crosses the threshold between this game and something else.
That's all i'm saying. Thank you for the thread and back and forth
Every single time we built a house its gotten crushed.
Completely demolished. Always with people building stairs close to your base.
I can understand why its possible, and why making it impossible for other players to build near yours would be sort of defeating the purpose of a survival game. Its frustrating at hell, but the thing is; If they already know where you live, and your house is vournerable, youll get raided untill its over.
We actually found a house we thought raided us. I proceeded to camp their door and take down 4-5 people from that house but then I heard someone yelling in perfect brittish accent for me to fuck off. The raiders werent brittish :).
Finally we gave them some kevlar for their trouble and now were friends. Tonight we follow the raiders after theyre done and find out where they live. Were stockpiling grenades and were going to set our alarms for early, go there and make them pretty much unable to attack us again.
What other game can you do this in?
I love this game.
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