Are hackers back again?? - Rust

[QUOTE=mrknifey;48490441]i didn't say they don't care, or that you guys think they don't. i said they know that hackers are a problem and are actively working against them. [/QUOTE] You started your post by saying, "If [Facepunch] had no interest in stopping hackers..." This is usually the type of reply one would make to someone who proposed that Facepunch had no interest in stopping hackers. So you can probably see how I came to my conclusion. If your point is that they know well enough already that it's a problem, I still disagree. As cinderstar pointed out a few posts above, Garry did not begin to learn the extent of the problem until just a few days ago. And then, magically, a massive ban wave hits a few days later. If everyone had followed your advice and just stopped posting about hackers because "Facepunch already knows about the problem", would we have seen the significant improvement that came as a result of the ban wave? I think the answer is no. If no one is complaining about something, what incentive is there to fix it? People should always (constructively!) post about the important problems they encounter. If it pushes other topics out of the way, [U]that's the whole point[/U]. The more people complain about something, the more important the issue is and the more it should rise to the top until it is fixed and something else moves up.

[QUOTE=AshFirecrest;48494046]You started your post by saying, "If [Facepunch] had no interest in stopping hackers..." This is usually the type of reply one would make to someone who proposed that Facepunch had no interest in stopping hackers. So you can probably see how I came to my conclusion. If your point is that they know well enough already that it's a problem, I still disagree. As cinderstar pointed out a few posts above, Garry did not begin to learn the extent of the problem until just a few days ago. And then, magically, a massive ban wave hits a few days later. If everyone had followed your advice and just stopped posting about hackers because "Facepunch already knows about the problem", would we have seen the significant improvement that came as a result of the ban wave? I think the answer is no. If no one is complaining about something, what incentive is there to fix it? People should always (constructively!) post about the important problems they encounter. If it pushes other topics out of the way, [U]that's the whole point[/U]. The more people complain about something, the more important the issue is and the more it should rise to the top until it is fixed and something else moves up.[/QUOTE] What are you on about? Anyway there's. Banwave at the the start of most weeks lol it's not like they just noticed... [editline]20th August 2015[/editline] Garry only said he noticed that people were using their hacks for a week or so before getting banned.

[QUOTE=AshFirecrest;48494046]You started your post by saying, "If [Facepunch] had no interest in stopping hackers..." This is usually the type of reply one would make to someone who proposed that Facepunch had no interest in stopping hackers. So you can probably see how I came to my conclusion. If your point is that they know well enough already that it's a problem, I still disagree. As cinderstar pointed out a few posts above, Garry did not begin to learn the extent of the problem until just a few days ago. And then, magically, a massive ban wave hits a few days later. If everyone had followed your advice and just stopped posting about hackers because "Facepunch already knows about the problem", would we have seen the significant improvement that came as a result of the ban wave? I think the answer is no. If no one is complaining about something, what incentive is there to fix it? People should always (constructively!) post about the important problems they encounter. If it pushes other topics out of the way, [U]that's the whole point[/U]. The more people complain about something, the more important the issue is and the more it should rise to the top until it is fixed and something else moves up.[/QUOTE] yeah i can understand how we miscommunicated there:) and i agree, constructive posts are useful for keeping open communication, and updating the team on the state of things; but too many nonconstructive posts are the more common thing here, and drown out the legitimate ones very quickly. the one thing i have to disagree with is garry supposedly not knowing the extent of hackers until a week ago. as lead dev, he is very much involved in everything, including keeping up with the state of the game. he's regularly skulking the threads too, so i'm thinking that wherever that quote comes from, it's misworded or misinterpreted. and EAC don't instigate banwaves at his behest, though perhaps they might take different approaches at his request.

[QUOTE=mrknifey;48499130]the one thing i have to disagree with is garry supposedly not knowing the extent of hackers until a week ago. [/QUOTE] I agree FP and Garry are really in touch. But Garry on reddit literally said he did not realize that people were using the most common hacks, were reported to EAC, and then could keep playing for another week or longer. It was pretty obvious from his post he did not realize this was happening. No one is perfect. I have no complaint against FP or Garry - but it seems he did not realize this until a player posted about it - how a hacker was reported many time, was using the most common paid hack, and then was not banned at all for a long while. Then, after this discussion - about a week later - EAC suddenly sends out a large ban wave. Win for everyone involved.

[QUOTE=cinderstar;48489945]Exactly. Garry posted on reddit a few days ago he did not realize hackers were able to use popular hacks for a week or two in game before being banned. This happens all the time: a hacker is reported multiple times, and is able to keep hacking for one or two more weeks without being banned. It's good to let FP know what is going on. Funny how there are a ton of posts about the amount of hackers, and then two days later EAC does a big ban wave. Looks to me like they were motivated to do more work on the hackers because of people complaining on the forums, and people calling EAC out for not working. There is no way Facepunch would view hacking as such a big problem if players said nothing about it.[/QUOTE] Thank you this is my point... I see so many hackers ppl reporting and they are still playing 2 even 3 weeks after.. Something is clearly not working here. I get on forums there was no hackers posts at all cuz ppl report them on twitter and think its done, i reported this guy 3 days ago on twitter he is still playing... Got more then 30 reports ingame with steam. It got to that point where ppl will threaten with hacker friends unless u back off from raiding them or w/e... [editline]20th August 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=elixwhitetail;48490953]Because mods lock and DDT them since postal's rules sticky makes it clear they're unwanted. Same policy as with server advertising (except server ad threads are straight up deleted as well).[/QUOTE] Players wouldn't make or spam threads if their way of reporting worked. In this thread i didn't write omfg "some1s name" is hacker ban him. I tried to let them know that tehre is new hack out and that reporting is pretty much useless. If somebody says "hack where always here" this one wasn't, it can't be coincidence that all of them decided to install same hack the same day. Don't know but i always thought that if u see some new hack u report it, then game puts up update to get rid of it. Whats EACs job just banning ppl or preventing hacks to happen in first place? Im great full that garry managed to fix no cliping.

[QUOTE=cinderstar;48501374]Then, after this discussion - about a week later - EAC suddenly sends out a large ban wave. Win for everyone involved.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Vlku272;48494248]Anyway there's a banwave at the the start of most weeks lol it's not like they just noticed...[/QUOTE]

Do you work for FP? the level of hacking has been increasing not decreasing. "I am sure the devs can FULLY get rid of these hackers", you sir are what is called a moron. IF the DEVs could do this, they would have done this already. You must think unicorns and magically pixie dust falls out of the ass of a game once it clears beta. #Smh.

I've found that the main strife with claims of cheating. Are not really cheating & more the fact that some players on so called Official servers or modded servers, have admin access & grant themselves whatever they want. Its abuse & should never be allowed!

You're commenting on 3 years old thread, you sir are what we call an idiot. They own the server so they can do whatever they wish to do.

So what about Official servers who abuse admin access? This isn't what I expected when I bought this game for me & my 3 son's. To play the game in really the only way to play it. Online on servers ran by people who offer a subscription service for VIP members to have admin access to award themselves items. That's not official in my book & seeing as its the only way to play the game. They should remove these servers from the official list of servers.

I have never in roughly 3 years of playing rust experienced admins abusing on official servers. If you're apparently having this type of problem i suggest playing on rustafied servers, they are very trustworthy and really care for their players (even though someone probably disagrees with me). I can imagine this happening on community/modded servers, but not on official.

3 years later, still an issue, Mr Bellend.

Can our smart ass say where i said that it's not an issue. I just simply said not to reply and then bump 3 years old thread. You could've made a new thread and told how hackers make your life so miserable