This Game is Disgusting. - Rust

[QUOTE=Michael haxz;43211548]You have to weather the bad times out and get more experienced with the game to enjoy the good times. I've hit the top and bottom, and whenever I do hit the bottom I know the top will come back around eventually if I keep going and not quit like a wienie. If you can't accept the fact that you will get stomped a fair percentage of this game and that if people want to play this like a FPS they are more than welcome to, then you probably shouldn't play it. Rust is your journey, Make your choice for it may be your last[/QUOTE] unfortunately if thats the attitude of everyone then you will be left to play the game on your own. It will turn into a niche product for the elitists or whatever you feel like calling yourselves and will eventually disapear as another one of 'them' games.

[QUOTE=Nif90;43211677]Honestly, this game is not worth the money even if its still only in alpha. to those who are reading, please do not buy this game unless its on steam 75%+ off sale.[/QUOTE] Speak for yourself, this game has a lot of potential if done right and is well worth the dirt cheap price.

[QUOTE=montyrat;43211780]Speak for yourself, this game has a lot of potential if done right and is well worth the dirt cheap price.[/QUOTE] I guess he was meant to say. Buy it only if you wish to help fund and promote the concept. If you wish to play it at current time, then dont bother.

[QUOTE=produno;43211837]I guess he was meant to say. Buy it only if you wish to help fund and promote the concept. If you wish to play it at current time, then dont bother.[/QUOTE] To be expected with any Alpha, I gave them my money because I think this has great potential as a true survival game, hopefully the devs will listen to a few of our suggestions and we can all enjoy this game at its true potential.

[QUOTE=montyrat;43211904]To be expected with any Alpha, I gave them my money because I think this has great potential as a true survival game, hopefully the devs will listen to a few of our suggestions and we can all enjoy this game at its true potential.[/QUOTE] An investment, i guess why many topics get quite heated :).

If you do not like the gameplay you could always go play WarZ er..... maybe DayZ errr......... maybe Nether errr......... This is a genre of game. If you do not like the genre then stop buying games of this stature. Could you imagine if I went onto the World of Warcraft forums and said the game is shit because of "all the magic spells and fantasy nonsense", or if I went onto the minecraft forums and said how all the building and construction is "cluttering up the map" and ruining the game. Steam shows Rust to have 8,000 players actively on average. If you have a problem with the gameplay I suggest you find another title to invest your time in because a great deal of players are very happy with the development so far.

[QUOTE=produno;43211750]unfortunately if thats the attitude of everyone then you will be left to play the game on your own. It will turn into a niche product for the elitists or whatever you feel like calling yourselves and will eventually disapear as another one of 'them' games.[/QUOTE] I'm not an elitist, I just don't quit whenever conflict arises like a lot of the people that are currently complaining in this thread

@insightknight Except your comparison doesn't make the least amount of sense. This is akin to people playing world of Warcraft in its early days and complaining some skills and characters or mechanics where overpowered and should be balanced... And that happened. And the characters or mechanics were balanced in patches. This game is in alpha, people will give feedback and things will change, is that simple. They're already planning on removing military weapons which is nice.

At the moment this game may seem harse. But remember it's alpha guys. Once oyu have a house you can respawn there non stop, all your items are there, kevlar is the easiest armor to make it takes about 200 metal scraps... not hard and i guarantee a lot more armor and weapons will come, M4 is also easy to make. So with one research kit you can learn everything and make it all easy. The main issue is griefing with buildings. It need to be fixed because it takes hours to get your house set up just to log out of the game without thinking i hope i don't die while i'm gone.

[QUOTE=Usersd;43212151]@insightknight Except your comparison doesn't make the least amount of sense. This is akin to people playing world of Warcraft in its early days and complaining some skills and characters or mechanics where overpowered and should be balanced... And that happened. And the characters or mechanics were balanced in patches. This game is in alpha, people will give feedback and things will change, is that simple. They're already planning on removing military weapons which is nice.[/QUOTE] You are complaining about being gunned down in a survival game. What part of the analogy did you not comprehend? As you said the WoW players asked for balance, [B]not to completely remove spells and abilities[/B].

[QUOTE=InsightKnight;43212275]You are complaining about guns in a survival game. What part of the analogy did you not comprehend? As you said the WoW players asked for balance, not to completely remove spells and abilities.[/QUOTE] By that mentality, they have guns in a survival game. Why not a tank? or a gunship? Must be some still around right? Maybe some nuclear warheads still around aswell? :)

[QUOTE=produno;43212306]By that mentality, they have guns in a survival game. Why not a tank? or a gunship? Must be some still around right? Maybe some nuclear warheads still around aswell? :)[/QUOTE] Have you ever played dead space? Survival does not mean simply lacking technology. You need to expand your view of what it means to survive instead of thinking like a dumbass american who has lost thier smartphone. EDIT: Just noticed you are in UK. :P

[QUOTE=InsightKnight;43212330]Have you ever played dead space? Survival does not mean simply lackign technology. You need to expand your view of what it means to survive.[/QUOTE] No one ever did? But why wouldnt they add tanks and gunships or nuclear warheads? You would still be surviving. You can play Arma or BF4 and technically have a definition of a survival game. When i saw this game i saw cavemen running around with rocks having to craft whatever they could use to build a base and survive with freinds.. ray mears style. I didnt realise it was another dayz, nether, warz clone. If i knew that i wouldnt have bought it. Theirs already too many of the same old thing about. And if thats all it is, then theirs nothing new here.

[QUOTE=Python357;43211404]What the fuck? I get banned 3 days for posting a macro'd image and this guy from the Facepunch staff is allowed to do it? You are all fucking hypocritical assholes, that's for sure. I'm gonna screencap this and put it on my review of this game.[/QUOTE] sorry. Things will change. For the better too. Will take some time as we have a lot to do :)

[QUOTE=produno;43212366]No one ever did? But why wouldnt they add tanks and gunships or nuclear warheads? You would still be surviving. You can play Arma or BF4 and technically have a definition of a survival game. When i saw this game i saw cavemen running around with rocks having to craft whatever they could use to build a base and survive with freinds.. ray mears style. I didnt realise it was another dayz, nether, warz clone. If i knew that i wouldnt have bought it. Theirs already too many of the same old thing about. And if thats all it is, then theirs nothing new here.[/QUOTE] I accually agree here. When I saw this on steam I saw hachets, rocks, pin dick cavemen etc and it looked really unique. Now not saying I dont like how the game is I accually love it, but would be nice to see it be different and stick with how it represents. Why do we fucking start naked and with rock and torchs if theres machine guns, stone towns and advanced armor wears out? Legit makes no sense

[QUOTE=produno;43212366]No one ever did? But why wouldnt they add tanks and gunships or nuclear warheads? You would still be surviving. You can play Arma or BF4 and technically have a definition of a survival game. When i saw this game i saw cavemen running around with rocks having to craft whatever they could use to build a base and survive with freinds.. ray mears style. I didnt realise it was another dayz, nether, warz clone. If i knew that i wouldnt have bought it. Theirs already too many of the same old thing about. And if thats all it is, then theirs nothing new here.[/QUOTE] Okay that I can understand. Although they do show gunfire and modern clothes in the Trailer, it is still rather cryptic without actually watching a stream of the gameplay. Not trying to attack you I am just tired of seeing the same post every day. If a person is not satisfied with the gameplay of a game it is much easier to find a new game than to picket for the entire gameplay model to be rewritten simply because they do not like it. A majority of these players have not logged more than 24 hours of gameplay as well so they have not even experienced having a metal building and actually being able to defend themselves instead of being fresh meat for those who have.

[QUOTE=produno;43212366]No one ever did? But why wouldnt they add tanks and gunships or nuclear warheads? You would still be surviving. You can play Arma or BF4 and technically have a definition of a survival game. When i saw this game i saw cavemen running around with rocks having to craft whatever they could use to build a base and survive with freinds.. ray mears style. I didnt realise it was another dayz, nether, warz clone. If i knew that i wouldnt have bought it. Theirs already too many of the same old thing about. And if thats all it is, then theirs nothing new here.[/QUOTE] This is not a DayZ clone, read about what Devs have planned, the Zombies are just place holders for another hostile NPC and they intend to replace most Military weapons with more primitive options.

Rust certainly has DayZ inspiration though. The Metal Hangar is a dead giveaway. :D

[QUOTE=InsightKnight;43212434]Okay that I can understand. Although they do show gunfire and modern clothes in the Trailer, it is still rather cryptic without actually watching a stream of the gameplay. Not trying to attack you I am just tired of seeing the same post every day. If a person is not satisfied with the gameplay of a game it is much easier to find a new game than to picket for the entire gameplay model to be rewritten simply because they do not like it. A majority of these players have not logged more than 24 hours of gameplay as well so they have not even experienced having a metal building and actually being able to defend themselves instead of being fresh meat for those who have.[/QUOTE] Yeah i understand what you are saying. but i think most people, or at least the ones thats came from steam like me had the same conceptions of the game. But when you actually play and within the first couple of hours get no where but bum raped by guys weilding machine guns it kind of takes away all that immersion. i would try explain better but im tired :). @Montyrat Where is this information? I wouldnt mind reading it. i cant find it on steam or their website. Maybe this should be made more easily accesable by the devs!

[QUOTE=produno;43212542]Yeah i understand what you are saying. but i think most people, or at least the ones thats came from steam like me had the same conceptions of the game. But when you actually play and within the first couple of hours get no where but bum raped by guys weilding machine guns it kind of takes away all that immersion. i would try explain better but im tired :). @Montyrat Where is this information? I wouldnt mind reading it. i cant find it on steam or their website. Maybe this should be made more easily accesable by the devs![/QUOTE] [url]https://trello.com/b/lG8jtz6v/rust[/url] I also suggest that people join "No PVP" servers if thats what you want to do, learn how to play the game properly before getting spanked in a PVP one.

this game is really bad.I can play skyrim and call of duty black ops 2 but I can't play this game because I have freeze problem.I want my money back steam !

Lost my stuff more times than I'd want to but fuck it. Whenever you die, you learn something more. Now I don't rush like a retarded fuck into area, now I inspect it and etc., so yeah. And don't build a stronghold of you're alone, as some people have mentioned already, just build 1x1 ir 2x2 house and hold your stuff there.

[QUOTE=montyrat;43212563][url]https://trello.com/b/lG8jtz6v/rust[/url] I also suggest that people join "No PVP" servers if thats what you want to do, learn how to play the game properly before getting spanked in a PVP one.[/QUOTE] i know how to play the game properly, hide up get some stuff, create m4's and c4's then go gang raping noobs, greifing noobs and generaly abusing people :). If i wanted a fair pvp game id play battlefield, but i wanna potshot people with rocks so ill stay playing this cos im too nuby to shoot at someone with the same weapon power as me :). That is all ive seen so far. I can only guess the people defending it are the ones doing it. Once and if the military weapons go, you will see everone will be much happier!

[QUOTE=produno;43212654]i know how to play the game properly, hide up get some stuff, create m4's and c4's then go gang raping noobs, greifing noobs and generaly abusing people :). If i wanted a fair pvp game id play battlefield, but i wanna potshot people with rocks so ill stay playing this cos im too nuby to shoot at someone with the same weapon power as me :). That is all ive seen so far. I can only guess the people defending it are the ones doing it. Once and if the military weapons go, you will see everone will be much happier![/QUOTE] If military weapons go: A) The game will be boring as shit and will be cluttered with buildings to the sky. B) You guys will just complain about the Bow being "Too Strong". Then the hatchet. then whatever other weapon you fail to learn how to build and use yourself. I find it [B][U]hillarious[/U][/B] that so many people on this forum cry about how the guns are too easy to make yet that they should be removed because it is "Unfair" at the same time. If they are so easy to craft why do you not have one?

[QUOTE=InsightKnight;43212687]If military weapons go: A) The game will be boring as shit and will be cluttered with buildings to the sky. B) You guys will just complain about the Bow being "Too Strong". Then the hatchet. then whatever other weapon you fail to learn how to build and use yourself. I find it funny that so many people on this forum cry about how the guns are too easy to make yet how they want them removed at the same time. If they are so easy to craft why do you not have one?[/QUOTE] i suggested the use of TNT. not as strong as c4 but home made. So buildings can still get destroyed but it will be more controlled, hopefully. i only really have an issue with the fully auto guns. Bow and arrows - cool crossbows - cool home made pipe guns - awesome And incase no one still understands my point, i can make and use all the weapons... but i can also use all them weapons plus more in pretty much every other game i own. But what i cant do is the other stuff this game offers with the pvp action. How do military weapons make this game fun for you?

[QUOTE=produno;43212768]i suggested the use of TNT. not as strong as c4 but home made. So buildings can still get destroyed but it will be more controlled, hopefully. i only really have an issue with the fully auto guns. Bow and arrows - cool crossbows - cool home made pipe guns - awesome And incase no one still understands my point, i can make and use all the weapons... but i can also use all them weapons plus more in pretty much every other game i own. But what i cant do is the other stuff this game offers with the pvp action. How does military weapons make this game fun for you?[/QUOTE] It gives me something to strive for when I get killed. All that limiting to single shot weapons would do is turn this into a WarZ fest where people sit in a corner with a homemade shotgun waiting to blast someone who walks in. Again I ask the same question: If you have the same ability to build a full auto rifle as everyone else then why is it a problem for you that it is in the game? You speak as though it is somehow an unfair advantage.

[QUOTE=InsightKnight;43212786]It gives me something to strive for when I get killed. All single shot weapons would do is turn this into a WarZ fest where people sit in a corner with a hoemade shotgun waiting to blast someone who walks in. Again I ask the same question: If you have the same ability to build a full auto rifle as everyone else then why is it a problem for you that it is in the game? You speak as though it is somehow an unfair advantage.[/QUOTE] But if it wasnt their you would strive for the next weapon down the line. It takes no skill to kill some one with an M4, with a home made gun it would. Or even the bow and arrow it does, if you cower in a corner then you obvious lack that skill. We give everyone m4's. Then let them shoot it out? So i may aswell go on battlefield and play a pvp FPS which does that a hell of alot better than this game. So wheres the logic? Oh and Warz is shite. i was one of the ones that got refunded for that bullshit they released.

[QUOTE=produno;43212830]But if it wasnt their you would strive for the next weapon down the line. It takes no skill to kill some one with an M4.[/QUOTE] Sorry bro you lost me there. Full auto guns are hard as hell to shoot and if you had actually took the time to craft one you would know this. The recoil in Rust is about as real as it gets in a video game.

What he meant to say was, "Maybe you should make Rust the way[B] I[/B] want to play" making everyone who doesn't like how I play go play something else... instead of me saying oh this is a survival game in ALPHA! this game may change so I have a better fighting chance (and it will) or I can go play a game more suited to my structured play style [QUOTE=MrN;43210501]How's it meant to be played? The idea behind Rust is that we give you stuff to use and it's up to you how to use it. We're not forcing you to play it a certain way, you make the experience. "Rust is a multiplayer game, so there will be other players trying to survive in the same way that you are. Unfortunately for you they can find you, kill you and take your stuff. Fortunately for you – you can kill them and take their stuff. Or maybe you can make friends and help each other survive. Rust’s world is harsh – so you might need to make friends to survive."[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=Randomhero420;43214724]What he meant to say was, "Maybe you should make Rust the way[B] I[/B] want to play" making everyone who doesn't like how I play go play something else... instead of me saying oh this is a survival game in ALPHA! this game may change so I have a better fighting chance (and it will) or I can go play a game more suited to my structured play style[/QUOTE] That is basically every crying post in this forum. They want the entire game mechanic rewritten because it is too hard for them. No wonder the devs barely look at the posts.