After seeing the posts on the forum about admin abuse, I for one will not be joining this server.
I play on thatrustserver and Tim never abuses admin, and has experience running servers.
[QUOTE=Scipio;42813093]After seeing the posts on the forum about admin abuse, I for one will not be joining this server.
I play on thatrustserver and Tim never abuses admin, and has experience running servers.[/QUOTE]
Which were all lies, please redirect your for your viewing pleasure the people banned on this thread for doing so.
Your not getting the point slyder, these ppl are saying if he is spawning a ramp and admitted to it.. "what else" has he spawned... I dont play on your server but its not hard to understand the logic behind what these guys are saying..
you have no clue if he spawned Explosives or 1000 wood.. the only thing you can do is trust his word that he didnt do anything else.. but I probably realize that this person is a friend of yours... and you should be able to trust your friend right...
Thats all these ppl are trying to put across to you is that its just not that 1 ramp he spawned...
Try not to get so hostile....
[QUOTE=michaelbuchs;42813129]Your not getting the point slyder, these ppl are saying if he is spawning a ramp and admitted to it.. "what else" has he spawned... I dont play on your server but its not hard to understand the logic behind what these guys are saying..
you have no clue if he spawned Explosives or 1000 wood.. the only thing you can do is trust his word that he didnt do anything else.. but I probably realize that this person is a friend of yours... and you should be able to trust your friend right...
Thats all these ppl are trying to put across to you is that its just not that 1 ramp he spawned...
Try not to get so hostile....[/QUOTE]
Once again this is speculations being believed without any evidence, you must see the position I'm in. If I were to say he hasn't spawned in Explosives and 1000 Wood, would you believe me just using the words I typed in these forums ? Prob not but people continue to use the same example as truths.
I'm trying not to be hostile but all this ignorance is pushing me into a corner.
There is no way a "player" can prove that he spawned anything else besides that 1 ramp... and you saying he didnt is hard to believe on the simple fact that those players already seen this admin spawning something(ramp) so it makes them believe that he was spawning other items... Even if he was/wasn't no one will know besides that admin..
There just needs to be a minecraft type thing, where you can give certain admin powers to admins....
example:
Owner -Full control
Admin - kick/ban/tp
Mod - Kick
Player- Nothing..
also would like to see server put in server log files to what ppl are doing and if anything what are the admins spawning.. then you can give those players accusing admin abuse.. but then again you could just edit the file...
[QUOTE=michaelbuchs;42813459]There is no way a "player" can prove that he spawned anything else besides that 1 ramp... and you saying he didnt is hard to believe on the simple fact that those players already seen this admin spawning something(ramp) so it makes them believe that he was spawning other items... Even if he was/wasn't no one will know besides that admin..
There just needs to be a minecraft type thing, where you can give certain admin powers to admins....
example:
Owner -Full control
Admin - kick/ban/tp
Mod - Kick
Player- Nothing..
also would like to see server put in server log files to what ppl are doing and if anything what are the admins spawning.. then you can give those players accusing admin abuse.. but then again you could just edit the file...[/QUOTE]
Great reply man, good to see someone actually using thier head in all this. I totally side with you. The example you gave is a topic in itself great idea you should start a thread on it along with the server log, that would definitely open doors for more admins to the owner.
I already talked to playrust.eu about it, they said more feature to come possible, but this is alpha...
[QUOTE=Slyder;42813362]Once again this is speculations being believed without any evidence, you must see the position I'm in. If I were to say he hasn't spawned in Explosives and 1000 Wood, would you believe me just using the words I typed in these forums ? Prob not but people continue to use the same example as truths.
I'm trying not to be hostile but all this ignorance is pushing me into a corner.[/QUOTE]
Too late. Server hosting relies on trust, and by allowing your admins to spawn items you have broken it. Whether it was a joke or not, people will no longer play on your server and will recommend that other players do not either.
Once you've lost trust, it's almost impossible to regain that-- period.
[QUOTE=Slyder;42813577]Great reply man, good to see someone actually using thier head in all this. I totally side with you. The example you gave is a topic in itself great idea you should start a thread on it along with the server log, that would definitely open doors for more admins to the owner.[/QUOTE]
Right. Server logs. Showing a file that inherently relies on the admin not editing it himself and then uploading it for the rest of the world to see.
What could go wrong?
I agree that most admins would edit the files
[QUOTE=Slyder;42813071]Not a ramp ? We know, he obviously abused his admin with that. Please don't pretend this is a huge act of admin abuse. He was testing out that feature of giving items, so what? The server wasn't even up for more then 6 hours.[/QUOTE]
I'm entitled to my opinion, and I think one ramp is one too many.
I also find it extremely hard to believe that is all he spawned. Why a ramp? If he just wanted to see how the give command (or whatever he was testing) why not pick a stone or something? It's an odd choice and all of these leads me to believe that there's a lot more going on than you all are admitting.
[QUOTE=Slyder;42813107]Which were all lies, please redirect your for your viewing pleasure the people banned on this thread for doing so.[/QUOTE]
It's not all lies, DelTaco admitted to spawning in a wood ramp. You guys also admitted to people standing around in god mode "talking" to your friends while your friends killed someone.
[QUOTE=Slyder;42813362]Once again this is speculations being believed without any evidence, you must see the position I'm in. If I were to say he hasn't spawned in Explosives and 1000 Wood, would you believe me just using the words I typed in these forums ? Prob not but people continue to use the same example as truths.
I'm trying not to be hostile but all this ignorance is pushing me into a corner.[/QUOTE]
There is evidence, you just want to pretend it doesn't exist. One of your admins was standing in god mode for some reason with some friends in the middle of a field somewhere.
One of your admins spawned at least one item into the game.
Those are facts that you or one of your admins have admitted to.
I state again, if your admins, which should be the most trustworthy of players in my opinion are doing these things in the public eye. What else are they doing that hasn't been caught?
[QUOTE=prim8;42813697]I'm entitled to my opinion, and I think one ramp is one too many.
I also find it extremely hard to believe that is all he spawned. Why a ramp? If he just wanted to see how the give command (or whatever he was testing) why not pick a stone or something? It's an odd choice and all of these leads me to believe that there's a lot more going on than you all are admitting.[/QUOTE]
Come judge for yourself server is open to all
Why would I join as a new player when your whole crew at the very least has more than a day head start on me and at the worst has spawned everything they'll ever need to destroy everyone else on the server?
Oh, and also has the capability to tp themselves to me at any time and destroy me even if I put my house in a hard to find spot.
You can protest all you want that Deltaco and whoever else hasn't been abusing their admin powers, but the fact is you don't even know that for sure and you're just trying to sweep it all under the rug like there's nothing wrong with any of it.
Even if you could give a reasonable explanation for any of this, I still don't see why the admin was standing around in god mode in the open with friends and why those friends killed the person who attacked the admin. After all, it's not like he could hurt the admin since they were in godmode right? Or is that the point?
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