Player Hosted Servers Going to Ruin the Game? - Rust

[QUOTE=piratee;42791953]Does anyone else agree with me that player hosted servers will ruin this game? For one, the official servers will most likely be taken down since there is no reason to pay for them if other servers are beging ran by players. And with this, abusive owners will ruin the experience for everyone. I just don't see anything good coming from this. This is EXACTLY what I DIDN'T want to happen to Rust.[/QUOTE] Just like with any game. DayZ has the same issues but thats why you take the time to look around to find a good server. Go to their website read their forums see what people are saying. Just cause some assholes reset the server when they get raided (cough MCM) does not mean all server operators are going to be Dbags.

I would prefer to be able to host a server myself, from my machine for a small group of friends. I don't find 50+ player servers fun.

What about having enough servers hosted by Playrust for all the regions, so if people want to play with no admin intervention they can - maybe it can be run partly by donations as well if that's needed. Then you can allow player hosted servers (with plugins:D(?)) without having to worry about people not having enough choice.

[QUOTE=Cyborgt;42798504]Fair enough. I hadn't actually been playing the game lately so I hadn't really seen the growing server list but I loaded the game up a couple hours ago just to see what people were talking about and it was kinda funny. There are probably double the number of servers there were before (guessing based on how much scrolling I can do since I never actually counted them) and it becomes a bit difficult to determine which were the original official servers on that list. That being said, I still saw plenty of servers getting 60+ players and to me that's the ideal experience anyway. There were even several with 80+. Just because the servers aren't constantly hovering at 120+ each now doesn't mean the game has been ruined by too many servers. If that's the way the bandits feel about it then I can't say i'll be sad to see their numbers diminish.[/QUOTE] You make it sound like bandits are the plague of the game and must be removed. However, the game doesn't really make sense if there are not bandits. What are you going to do? Just say hi to every kevlar you see and walk by? Its part of the game. [QUOTE=COOLADE420;42801530]What about having enough servers hosted by Playrust for all the regions, so if people want to play with no admin intervention they can - maybe it can be run partly by donations as well if that's needed. Then you can allow player hosted servers (with plugins:D(?)) without having to worry about people not having enough choice.[/QUOTE] In my opinion, there should only be 5-8 servers for everyone. The number would obviously increase with the player base, but there shouldn't be many servers with 30-50 players on them. Boring and pointless.

[QUOTE=piratee;42802099]You make it sound like bandits are the plague of the game and must be removed. However, the game doesn't really make sense if there are not bandits. What are you going to do? Just say hi to every kevlar you see and walk by? Its part of the game.[/QUOTE] Of course bandits are a part of the game and add that sense of tension to every encounter as to whether the person is going to kill you or not but i'm not gonna feel bad for them either when they complain there isn't enough people for them to shoot. When I speak of bandits, i'm talking about the players that do nothing but pick up a gun and immediately use it to start shooting anyone and everyone they see. Even worse are the ones that pretend to be friendly just to get you to point blank range for the kill. I don't have any problem with these people being part of the game, but they're only playing PART of the game and making things intentionally more difficult for everyone else. The game doesn't make much sense if everyone runs around without building or collecting resources just killing everyone in sight either. [QUOTE=piratee;42802099] In my opinion, there should only be 5-8 servers for everyone. The number would obviously increase with the player base, but there shouldn't be many servers with 30-50 players on them. Boring and pointless.[/QUOTE] I could agree with that, as long as it leaves room for servers that don't go much beyond 80 players. As I said, that seems like the perfect balance to me for this game rather than 100+ so I can agree with anything that would allow for my ideal experience as well as yours.

Threads are already being made talking about abusive admins. My friend was banned for dropping the admin with a pistol. Really dumb that these servers were allowed to be created.

[QUOTE=piratee;42801200]Thank you for everyone who left their input. Appears that the majority of people agree that issues have been caused by these player owned servers. While my original point was that the spawning of items and such would be a big issue, I'm now seeing even MORE of these servers popping up. Scrolling through the list, not a single server has 100 players, (besides EU Central, which usually has 100+), and few have over 60. If anyone thinks that that is a fun experience for players, you're pretty fucking wrong. The point of this game is to survive from OTHER PLAYERS. Not sit around running from bears and killing pigs. Don't ruin the game that so many people love just to please a few players.[/QUOTE] I fail to see how people playing by themselves or with a small group of friends in their own server is ruining the game for others. Who are you to decide how people should play Rust anyway? Maybe you don't find it a fun experience to play alone but others might, the point of the game is whatever the player decides it is as long as it is in the boundaries of what the game and the devs allow. [QUOTE=piratee;42803633]Threads are already being made talking about abusive admins. My friend was banned for dropping the admin with a pistol. Really dumb that these servers were allowed to be created.[/QUOTE] Don't play on them then. Seriously what do you do in other games that allow player servers which is nearly every game?

alright since another IH admin just abused his power (running naked to a massive metal base spawning himself 20 c4 to get into it), i will choose a new server after next wipe. so i have to know which 3 severs are the original servers by garry? and because i´m really mad and in rage about this kind of behavior, something personally for IH. i might abuse my real life power to drive down to bamberg and erlangen just to shove a bat up your asses and make you look like a lollipop

[QUOTE=Swagosarus;42798229]It won't take long before people make websites where you can donate $5 for items. You still have a choice wether to play on this server or not. Abusive admins or donation servers will get known VERY fast. These servers will have low population since only a minority of people wants to play on servers like that. There will be clans circlejerking with inventory's full of C4 and blow up every house you try to build. Who is going to play on servers like that besides the clan themselfs? Don't like the server? Don't play on it. There will be PLENTY of non-abusive servers out there even if the official ones go down. Don't worry about it.[/QUOTE] I'm playing on a server (which is down right now, unfortunately) that has some pretty good admins. That said, I'd happily pay five bucks to able able to spawn with a few amenities. Maybe a Pick Axe and some uncooked food. Anything more than that, though, I'd think I was on the wrong server. I'm pretty drunk already, so don't judge me on the sontent of this post. Judge me because I'm drunk. I love this game and all of you beatuful peopleish people.

[QUOTE=garry;42792591]Why would people pay to host a server just to ruin the experience of joining players[/QUOTE] This happens a LOT. Just check out any other game with player hosted servers that have full controls. Especially in a game like this where people already get their jollies from griefing others. It's just another form of greifing...

[QUOTE=smkymtnman;42814376]This happens a LOT. Just check out any other game with player hosted servers that have full controls. Especially in a game like this where people already get their jollies from griefing others. It's just another form of greifing...[/QUOTE] It does happen a lot. But obviously, servers exist and survive for a reason. Just find one that suits your needs.

I really liked playing this game but this is starting to ruin it.