Your group has members that are cheating. As a member of a group myself, it is all or nothing. You will all stand up for any member accused and defend that person no matter what even if it is wrong. There is nothing wrong with that. Your group has been reported for various suspicious activities ever since I've started this server and for the good of the server you are no longer welcome here. Please carry on and find a better home. There will be no further discussion regarding this matter. Any attempts to will only further bump my post and recruit more people, which I thank you for.
[url]http://www.reddit.com/r/playrust/comments/1xf5tp/story_time_akakak_admin_bans_legacy_off_server/[/url]
This Admin mass bans a group of 14 people for "Hacking" Without even telling us or showing us proof. Also when we played on his server there was a hacker named "Mr Sun" Who raided with hacks and we showed him proof and he even gave "Mr Sun" a chance to defend himself which "Mr Sun" did not reply or defended himself so the Admin banned him.
Now he ban our entire group because we were the top team on his server and he would lose 4 people because "Rue: but docs group is like...hella emo|Rue: and they wanna qiut and go nother server lol"
IF we were so called "Hackers" Why are we here posting and asking to defend ourselves and not moving on to another server?
He says in his first post on here "Active Responsible Admins with No Abuse!"
Clearly that is not the case here.
[editline]9th February 2014[/editline]
So give us proof that we are cheating
[QUOTE=Rue;43844533]Your group has members that are cheating. As a member of a group myself, it is all or nothing. You will all stand up for any member accused and defend that person no matter what even if it is wrong. There is nothing wrong with that. Your group has been reported for various suspicious activities ever since I've started this server and for the good of the server you are no longer welcome here. Please carry on and find a better home. There will be no further discussion regarding this matter. Any attempts to will only further bump my post and recruit more people, which I thank you for.[/QUOTE]
[editline]9th February 2014[/editline]
Show me the Proof that we are cheating? we even offer we will record for you while we plan on a hunt. We are all legit players and just because we are better doesn't mean we are hacking. brightness wise in the dark i see better then most people just because I have a brighter screen than them. If you can show me that I cheated then I surrender. If not, you are just doing a bad job as an admin.
wheres the proof Rue, you take peoples word of mouth and you ban us all really? i even told you we will start to record if you wanted. we wanted to prove to you that we dont cheat and you didnt even gave us a fucking chance. you allowed Mr.Sun a chance to try and prove him self where the fuck is ours? [QUOTE=Rue;43844533]Your group has members that are cheating. As a member of a group myself, it is all or nothing. You will all stand up for any member accused and defend that person no matter what even if it is wrong. There is nothing wrong with that. Your group has been reported for various suspicious activities ever since I've started this server and for the good of the server you are no longer welcome here. Please carry on and find a better home. There will be no further discussion regarding this matter. Any attempts to will only further bump my post and recruit more people, which I thank you for.[/QUOTE]
" You will all stand up for any member accused and defend that person no matter what even if it is wrong. There is nothing wrong with that." The logic is op
"Your group has members that are cheating" Names and evidence please.
"Your group has been reported for various suspicious activities ever since I've started this server" The same claims have been made against Doctor and his group from day one BUT never by us we recognize the difference between skill and Hacks.Because of this we didn't "Whine" but i guess that's where we went wrong. GG
As far i you have led us to believe you banned 15 people based of off people "Whining" with absolutely no proof and that IS Admin Abuse. you too lazy to do you job correctly or listen to new or bad players whine so you took the easy way out.
You honestly expect to not only claim but ban 15 people because 1 or more people where allegedly Hacking. Then provide no proof and expect there to be no complaints against this abuse of power ?
This is your server and your are free to do as you will but it's your blatant False Advertisement of "Active Responsible Admins with No Abuse" and "Hard core pvp server" Leads us to post of our experience on your server having be cheated out of our hard work.
This is a warning to anyone considering joining this server the admin(s) are not responsible and they will abuse you if it suites them but don't worry they will just ban you with no explanation (until you confront them on this site) unfriend you from steam and block you to just go about their day as if they had not just fked 15 people out of their time for no more reason then people who the admin agrees are "Emo" complainers "whine" against you.
so enjoy this abusive server at your own risk
[QUOTE=Darshu;43844638]" You will all stand up for any member accused and defend that person no matter what even if it is wrong. There is nothing wrong with that." The logic is op
"Your group has members that are cheating" Names and evidence please.
"Your group has been reported for various suspicious activities ever since I've started this server" The same claims have been made against Doctor and his group from day one BUT never by us we recognize the difference between skill and Hacks.Because of this we didn't "Whine" but i guess that's where we went wrong. GG
As far i you have led us to believe you banned 15 people based of off people "Whining" with absolutely no proof and that IS Admin Abuse. you too lazy to do you job correctly or listen to new or bad players whine so you took the easy way out.
You honestly expect to not only claim but ban 15 people because 1 or more people where allegedly Hacking. Then provide no proof and expect there to be no complaints against this abuse of power ?
This is your server and your are free to do as you will but it's your blatant False Advertisement of "Active Responsible Admins with No Abuse" and "Hard core pvp server" Leads us to post of our experience on your server having be cheated out of our hard work.
This is a warning to anyone considering joining this server the admin(s) are not responsible and they will abuse you if it suites them but don't worry they will just ban you with no explanation (until you confront them on this site) unfriend you from steam and block you to just go about their day as if they had not just fked 15 people out of their time for no more reason then people who the admin agrees are "Emo" complainers "whine" against you.
so enjoy this abusive server at your own risk[/QUOTE]
AMEN!
[QUOTE=Rue;43844533]Your group has members that are cheating. As a member of a group myself, it is all or nothing. You will all stand up for any member accused and defend that person no matter what even if it is wrong. There is nothing wrong with that. Your group has been reported for various suspicious activities ever since I've started this server and for the good of the server you are no longer welcome here. Please carry on and find a better home. There will be no further discussion regarding this matter. Any attempts to will only further bump my post and recruit more people, which I thank you for.[/QUOTE]
Might as well thank us for having a little over 50 users report your steam account as well. Twitch seems to agree with out cause and If u truly want to us to continue posting on this forum we can happily oblige. If you REALLY want your server to grow then stop trying to sell out to the other people who can't handle a true pvp. U had a group of people who respected you and enjoyed your server BUT you threw it away because of these random newbies who cried over a death. Your going to tell US, the ones who stuck around after a server wipe of YOUR corrupted files that we are at fault? Proof is the name of the game here and if you have it then show it. If not then enjoy these free posts and more to come of down voting and continued proof of YOUR unfairness. We stand up for ourselves and our group because this is obviously a ploy to make others happy. You claim to have had various suspicions against us and yet you barely talked to us about it AND claimed that it was only because other's were whining. Get your act together Rue. I had fun and enjoyed your server until you decided to pull this stunt out of your ass.
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[URL="http://imgur.com/a/UgTQ2"]http://imgur.com/a/UgTQ2[/URL]
Chat log of the Admin with LG Dark
[editline]9th February 2014[/editline]
"I have to go with who whines the most"
[editline]9th February 2014[/editline]
[URL="http://imgur.com/a/lgTSZ"]http://imgur.com/a/lgTSZ[/URL]
I've only been playing on this server for a few days, but I like it.
The guys posting they were banned are all part of the same group. Keep that in mind when you read their complaints. Birds of a feather and what not. Not saying to dismiss it, but take it with a grain of salt. Bro's will be bro's.
At least as far as *I've* seen, the admin has been fair and I haven't seen any admin abuse or wrongful bans myself. Lot of you here know me from NA#3, streamer servers, etc, this is my new home.
I definitely recommend it if you're looking for a stable, lag free server with a good mod set!
[QUOTE=Scynix;43845018]I've only been playing on this server for a few days, but I like it.
The guys posting they were banned are all part of the same group. Keep that in mind when you read their complaints. Birds of a feather and what not. Not saying to dismiss it, but take it with a grain of salt. Bro's will be bro's.
At least as far as *I've* seen, the admin has been fair and I haven't seen any admin abuse or wrongful bans myself. Lot of you here know me from NA#3, streamer servers, etc, this is my new home.
I definitely recommend it if you're looking for a stable, lag free server with a good mod set![/QUOTE]
you have been playing for 3 days and you have not seen admin abuse/unfair bans we where banned today so you are implying you have proof to justify this or are saying you didn't witness it so it doesn't count ?
[QUOTE=Darshu;43845086]you have been playing for 3 days and you have not seen admin abuse/unfair bans we where banned today so you are implying you have proof to justify this or are saying you didn't witness it so it doesn't count ?[/QUOTE]
I'm saying screaming foul doesn't always necessarily mean there's a foul.
Honestly, you guys had a pretty bad attitude either way, so I'm not that bothered by it. Your posts in this thread kinda show it, too. There's ways to say these things and still be civil.
so you don't like us so its okay to discriminate against us.
you say we cry foul as if we need to prove anything we are the ones being accused i dont know about you but here in America its innocent till proven guilty as it is in 99% of games.
cry foul when 15 people get banned when he openly admits he banned 10+ players that where not hacking and the ones that where "hacking"? he provides absolutely no evidence and the rest get banned because they where acquaintances.
maybe in Russia this might be expected i don't know where rue is from but he is clearly a dictator abusing power.
Bump
[editline]9th February 2014[/editline]
Starting to get banned on the forums too I see~
So I'm looking for a new server and thought this was cool but seems like the admin here is a jerk :( Sry mr admin but what you did just isnt fair. the legacy dudes are righ, u got none of the proofs. Reported for admin abuse cause these guys are just trying to play a game. Try to be fair in this game dude instead of raging with the other people just because they cant play the game as well
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[QUOTE=Rue;43848315]Bump
[editline]9th February 2014[/editline]
Starting to get banned on the forums too I see~[/QUOTE]
and instead of a explanation or proof you mock. but who got banned from the forums ? (edit: oh i see it was prob cause he said he has a bright screen)
Say what you will. I have 30 people here that are completely satisfied with my actions and know what was done was justified. Thank you for the continuous bumping.
[QUOTE=Rue;43848832]Say what you will. I have 30 people here that are completely satisfied with my actions and know what was done was justified. Thank you for the continuous bumping.[/QUOTE]
30 people huh, even if that was true which it isn't that means you lost 1/3 because you chose to ban innocent people to satisfy "whiners" (what you called them) we both know thats the case or you think 1 or more people where hacking and with no proof just word of mouth to go off of you banned 15 people and that's just iresponsible but hey if you have proof please share it. ive been watching your sever it peaked at about 13. atm its at 5. you where lucky to hit 30 when you had us on. you killed your player base and for what ?
The players on the server agree with the decision ? you mean the "Emo" people you got tired of listening to "whine" agree you caving into the demands of QQ we shot at them but they killed us they must be hacking ! those people ? go figure.
the 5 people on your server [url]http://i.imgur.com/I8iJp1O.png[/url] and 2 of them are actually members you didn't know about
[QUOTE=Darshu;43848686]and instead of a explanation or proof you mock. but who got banned from the forums ? (edit: oh i see it was prob cause he said he has a bright screen)[/QUOTE]
He Won't give an explanation because he look like an ass.
We got banned because our group was too large for his server.
[URL="http://imgur.com/a/UgTQ2"]http://imgur.com/a/UgTQ2[/URL]
In the chat logs there with dark he says so. Now instead of telling us "Hey guys, Listen your team is too big and the little guys can't manage here because you have the strength in numbers and skills and you raid them too much and they can't compete and that is hurting my server because they will all leave and we will only have you guys on" He accuses us of hacking with NO PROOF whats so ever and bans us.
If he had proof he would show it and shut us up and put us in our place but he DOESN'T have any. So he will just stick to the whole "You guys are all in a team you so HAVE to defend each other and stand up for one another" Clause to make himself look Half-way reasonable. Any other Admin will show us proof and tell us why and make us look dumb.
Also he Banned our WHOLE GROUP. So on his server you are guilty by association.
You can also see how mature he is by mocking Neji getting banned on this forum.
All we are asking for is Legitimate PROOF of us Hacking. No "Hacker" I've seen before has been asking this much in to why a whole group of people were banned with no proof.
So say what you want and think we are bad people with attitudes because we want PROOF to the accusations of us be hackers and ruining this guys server to the point of a huge group ban.
We provided proof of the Admin being Abusive he has yet to provide any of us being hackers.
Edit: He also said he was at one of out fights and it seemed legit in that chat with LG Dark.
You aren't even in the same league as hackers. Please don't give yourself that much credit. Paying $14 a month doesn't put you anywhere near that status.
[QUOTE=XCifer;43848979]
We provided proof of the Admin being Abusive he has yet to provide any of us being hackers.
Rue "You aren't even in the same league as hackers. Please don't give yourself that much credit. Paying $14 a month doesn't put you anywhere near that status. "
what does this even mean ? more accusations with no proof same old song and dance.
you yourself admit at least 10 or more people that you banned were not hacking its not a matter of IF you are guilty just to what degree.
[QUOTE=Rue;43849140]You aren't even in the same league as hackers. Please don't give yourself that much credit. Paying $14 a month doesn't put you anywhere near that status.[/QUOTE]
What does that even mean?
I just posted a legitimate detailed response with evidence of you being an Abusive Admin and my opinion on why I think the real reason why we got banned for.
And your response is that of child. You provide no evidence or even reply to my posting. Just a childish post of 'YOU PAY 14$ a MONTH TO BE HACKZORS!!!!"
Yet we are the ones with a "Bad Attitude" but all of our post are detailed with evidence.
You still have yet to provide proof of us using hacks and exploits or what have you. Yet I have posted proof of your chat logs with LG Dark saying that we are fighting legit. That Doctors house was built very poorly and it was like "So I could See how it was like shooting fish in a barrel".
You came down to one of our fights and saw it with your own eyes and told Dark it seemed Legit. Yet you banned us. Again with NO EVIDENCE.
You say all we are doing is bumping up your server post to which I reply yes we are. But we are letting people know that you abused your power. To which you haven't defended yourself at all and you are making yourself look more and more stupid with these abstract post.
Unfortunately, when dealing with a group of so called tight knit friends like yourselves, it really is all for one and one for all. Even if one person is cheating and 100 is not, you allow it to happen and support it. Guilty by association. Sucks but it happens. My best advice would be to find another server with a better admin. Apparently, this one has really bad abusive ones that people should avoid.
[QUOTE=Rue;43849518]Unfortunately, when dealing with a group of so called tight knit friends like yourselves, it really is all for one and one for all. Even if one person is cheating and 100 is not, you allow it to happen and support it. Guilty by association. Sucks but it happens. My best advice would be to find another server with a better admin. Apparently, this one has really bad abusive ones that people should avoid.[/QUOTE]
Unfortunately when admins abuse their power and provide no evidence because they have none. they dance around topic,make wild accusations and using the old Are you a witch ? no ? that's exactly what a witch would say burn her ploy. people get banned for no reason.
see i can make hypothetical situations and apply them to people too but what does it prove ? oh that's right nothing.
We did find another sever and we are happy.
We are just making sure that other people know you abused your power like the Sticky says we can:
2. Complaining/asking about other servers/hosting services being down, [B]shitty, having bad admins, [/B]having hackers, basically any discussion about other servers/hosts. Make a new thread ONLY if you can't find the server/host thread here since there's probably already one going (use the search feature!).
Guilty by Association of what though? You said we cheated but haven't told us how we cheated or what we did? Was it AIM Botting? Where is your proof or evidence?
All we are guilty of is having a huge clan and raiding the bad players on your server to whom you caved in to.
[URL="http://imgur.com/a/UgTQ2"]http://imgur.com/a/UgTQ2[/URL]
There is my evidence of it.
Now show me yours of us "Cheating"
You keep avoiding it but we will keep bring it up.
I have numerous occasions of easily 20+ people over the span of the past few weeks. From ESP to aimbotting to exploiting night time mechanics. This isn't the real world. If I were given the same tools as a real world forensics analyst, I would gladly provide all evidence per required by the law of the land; however, seeing that this is an ALPHA game with almost ZERO tools given to the admin, I must go with what I perceive to be true and fair for the majority of the people. The majority reported so, and I have witnessed a decent amount of suspicious "impossible" kills whilst being invisible. They are probable shots; however, the consistency and timing of said shots are statistically not probable.
There are countless people that play here and they have not witnessed ANY admin abuse whatsoever. It is only you guys.
you had 20+ people clamming we are hacking ?you didn't have 20+ consistent players that didn't include us id say more around 10-15 consistent and its funny how in those week you conferred to us that it was in your oppinion that we where not hacking and the issue is we where more skilled and had more numbers this isn't up for debate we have the text screen shoted.
you would go on to complain about the complainers being emo and whiners
so it came as a huge surprise when on a dime you changed your mind after
you came to fights and raids and agreed we where not hacking.
Now the story has totally changed for what reason I'm not too sure
one day you agree they are "emo whiners" the next we are wanabe hackers.
one thing is clear you banned many people you admit where not hacking and the ones you did ban
only hours earlier said they were not hacking then only to say they were hacking the whole time
its your story but you need to pick one and stick to it we have the chat log and it clearly shows what you are saying isn't true
but even if it was true you openly admit to abusing your power to ban 10+ people because they knew a guy
a guy that you wont name and wont say how he was hacking but only that the people you called "emo whiners"
whined so much you banned 15 people so you didn't have to listen to it anymore even after agreeing no one was hacking as shown in the chat logs.
I like how you take a 2 minute semi playful rant and use that as your 'weeks' of confirmation that I have been saying that to you. All you have is that tidbit of "fact" of an opinion that I was merely sharing out of courtesy. What I have is 2 weeks worth of people reporting to me. You have an on the moment opinion. I have the whole server consistently reporting. :|
i like how you take the chat log that completely counterdicts your story and disregaurd it while still admitting you banned at least 10+ people of KNOWING A GUY. there is more then the one chat log another is posted of ingame chat of you admitting there was no proof of the 1or more people that where "hacking"
Rue "All you have is that tidbit of "fact" of an opinion that I was merely sharing out of courtesy"
all we have is a "tidbit of fact" that is of YOUR opinion that you so kindly shared with us ?.
yes we do have that we have been posting it...
It's not just knowing a guy buddy. You guys claimed to be all good friends or even rl friends. When one person cheats in a group like that. You all know and condone it. There is no going back from there. There is no justice here for you. There are no laws written and there is no one to enforce anything aside from whoever paid for the server. You are at the mercy of the admin regardless of how you feel or think. You are banned here and not welcome back by anyone here. I hope you find a better place that will tolerate your actions and have a wonderful life.
"You guys claimed to be all good friends or even rl friends. When one person cheats in a group like that. You all know and condone it. There is no going back from there."
that my friend is called being prejudice.
you have absolutely no proof and admit to it but worse admit
to banning people yes for knowing a guy because
" When one person cheats in a group like that. You all know and condone it."
you start with a assumption that if someone is called a hacker enough times its must be true and end with if anyone is friends with said "hacker
they are just as guilty. that mentality is sick.
i know this is just a game but your morals are way out of whack.
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