What bothers me the most is that the M4 with HOLO zooms in more than a bolt with HOLO.
Would love if it could be the other way around to have the bolt as a "sniper".
I don't think a weak scope would be a bad thing 2X, 4X max, just very rare and make one of the pieces required uncraftable (binocular lens) so people don't have scopes on every weapon they own.
I think all the weapon mods need to be much much harder to craft.
My opinion? No scopes on any guns. Instead, have a scoped crossbow that fires a lethal one shot bolt that must travel distance before it hits anything, unlike an ingame bullet.
Make the sway worse than the current weapons and I'm all for it.
If they add a scope, it needs to be really, really janky.
Like the kind sea captains used, where shits kinda blurry and the zoom is like, 2x.
If not a scope for that gun then at least some binoculars. I would really like to be able to get an overview of the areas and see something up close without always having to get too close. It would be a must have of any aspiring scout.
Generally speaking, for all the kids who say OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOO..... They dont want to see a scope because of their already stupid fear of dying. Welcome to Rust guys... its a SURVIVAL GAME... you're supposed to FEAR DEATH.
Since I can literally go to the store and pick up a Nikon Scope or any other brand of scope to attach to a .223 rifle (Remington and sometimes an AR-15 depending upon the rail mount you have), this isn't a bad idea at all.
If you want to put a scope on it make the dmg half or more what it is now.
Getting picked off from years away is NO ONE's idea of fun. It's annoying and gives the feeling of No chance.
It would make all other weapons worthless in comparison as most engagements happen in pretty open areas. It's bad enough as it is with no scope / the holo. I can get head shots no problem and thats insta death.
[QUOTE=huNt3r87;43549135]Generally speaking, for all the kids who say OMG NOOOOOOOOOOOO..... They dont want to see a scope because of their already stupid fear of dying. Welcome to Rust guys... its a SURVIVAL GAME... you're supposed to FEAR DEATH.[/QUOTE]
It's not about dying,[B] It's about dying without an opportunity to fight back.[/B] Instant death anything in any game does nothing but create frustration
[QUOTE=attckdog;43549190]If you want to put a scope on it make the dmg half or more what it is now.
Getting picked off from years away is NO ONE's idea of fun. It's annoying and gives the feeling of No chance.
It would make all other weapons worthless in comparison as most engagements happen in pretty open areas. It's bad enough as it is with no scope / the holo. I can get head shots no problem and thats insta death.[/QUOTE]
Play DayZ. You can get picked from years away and it's still fun. If you quit over getting picked off you're either A) the laziest person alive because you feel justified in quitting over one death. Sorry buttercup, put on your farmin pants and get back to it.
B) You're a terrible player and you feel entitled to survive 24/7 in a SURVIVAL GAME
C) You think the game will turn into a DayZ hillsnipe fest (which because of how easy it is to get the bolt action right now, it could turn into that... so when they reduce the potential of finding them to nearly impossible like they're going to do with all military weapons, it'll work better)
D) There's an issue within you in which you feel you shouldn't fear losing your items... Well, it's a survival game, AGAIN.
I hate to break this to you but honestly, I hillside snipe in DayZ all the time. It's fun. I win some, I lose some. But the nature of it is that you're not invulnerable. So as it stands, I'd like to see a scope since it would give it a more fluid feel for scouting areas as well. Just because you have a scope on it, doesn't mean it'll be accurate.
Hunt3r, there's a significant number of people who don't find being picked off from a mile away fun.
I'm one of them. I found DayZ to be absurdly boring and one sided. You basically needed luck to get on a server that didn't have a sniper camping every relatively decent loot spot.
You can see it on streams, too. Almost every DayZ stream is, "haha check it Imma pop this kid trying to find some gear from this mountain". Yeah, that's just, freakin amazing.
Most people who know me think I'm a masochist and I didn't find DayZ fun at all.
Not to mention the world of headaches that occur in a game like that when ESP cheats are so easy to download even Lil Jimmy is doing it.
For the ones who cry fowl over the addition of a scope, I can already shoot things with a great deal of success from really far away with the Bolt Action. I've had a few headshots, I've killed animals that are chasing nakeds, and I've killed tons of zombies for sport when they were nothing more than a dot on the screen because they were so far.
They don't need to increase the range or power of the weapon and they don't need to add some 12x super scope (though I wouldn't mind that!). I would be very happy with a 4x ACOG scope or something around that.
This is a survival game where you're supposed to fear death. Not knowing whether you're being tracked by a sniper adds a whole new layer of suspense to an already stellar game.
Also, most people don't realize that server admins (like myself) are capable of adjusting pretty much everything through RCon and mods. You can join servers that allow them or don't. You can join servers right now that don't allow any military weapons! So there will always be servers that cater to everyone's preferred play style.
the fact that there's a fucking holo sight on the bolt action rifle to begin with pisses me the fuck off
(as you may be able to tell i wasn't the one who came up with that [I]BRILLIANT[/I] idea)
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;43549591]the fact that there's a fucking holo sight on the bolt action rifle to begin with pisses me the fuck off
(as you may be able to tell i wasn't the one who came up with that [I]BRILLIANT[/I] idea)[/QUOTE]
For clarity is that because is that because you think its thematically wrong or because you don't want it to have a sight...? Your ire is ambiguous.
[QUOTE=Kurogo;43270562]That's your bad, but you can block it up with a wood barrier.[/QUOTE]
did you see the part where he said ' YOU will get killed like a rabbit' not i will get killed like a rabbit
[editline]15th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;43549591]the fact that there's a fucking holo sight on the bolt action rifle to begin with pisses me the fuck off
(as you may be able to tell i wasn't the one who came up with that [I]BRILLIANT[/I] idea)[/QUOTE]
i agree
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;43549591]the fact that there's a fucking holo sight on the bolt action rifle to begin with pisses me the fuck off
(as you may be able to tell i wasn't the one who came up with that [I]BRILLIANT[/I] idea)[/QUOTE]
Not to be an ass but you're representing a company and you talk like that on an official forum? I'm just thinking about you and your job, don't want to see an awesome animator like yourself get in trouble! :P
I'd personally love if the bolt action had a peep sight like the old-time western style lever action guns (i.e. the Cowboy Repeater in Fallout: New Vegas.) Reduce the sway a bit compared to where it is, and also now the gun is suddenly even more difficult to use simply because you lose so much of your vision.
[QUOTE=Protocol7;43549884]I'd personally love if the bolt action had a peep sight like the old-time western style lever action guns (i.e. the Cowboy Repeater in Fallout: New Vegas.) Reduce the sway a bit compared to where it is, and also now the gun is suddenly even more difficult to use simply because you lose so much of your vision.[/QUOTE]
i so agree
[QUOTE=umdshaman;43549733]For clarity is that because is that because you think its thematically wrong or because you don't want it to have a sight...? Your ire is ambiguous.[/QUOTE]
thematically. it looks retarded. and there's already a sight on the model itself.
Max, can we expect to see any more bow weapons in the future? I posted earlier that the only scoped weapon should be a powerful, but slow crossbow, and I actually would really like to see something like this.
[QUOTE=BFG9000;43550313]Max, can we expect to see any more bow weapons in the future? I posted earlier that the only scoped weapon should be a powerful, but slow crossbow, and I actually would really like to see something like this.[/QUOTE]
rust's direction is makeshiftness, yes
I'm just saying, if Rust ended up being a legitimate Slingshot Channel simulator, nobody would complain.
[QUOTE=Yoshihito;43549878]Not to be an ass but you're representing a company and you talk like that on an official forum? I'm just thinking about you and your job, don't want to see an awesome animator like yourself get in trouble! :P[/QUOTE]
sometimes things are too ridiculous for me not to go like "what the hell man"
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