This thread is still going on hours later? With the same things being posted over and over again?
C'mon folks, if you're not being trolled ... you might as well be.
No.
I think Valve should be more human, but not with people who manage to come up with creative stories, but with people that encounter problems, and, i mean, Rust got EAC as internal anticheat, if someone disables it there's still VAC, and my infraction was only one, not two, neither three, no cheats, just a bypass, then why, since it uses IDS, which make a cheat detectable or not, couldn't they check if there was effectively a cheating experience rather than just a standard experience with a modded file?
I know, it may be forbidden, but if you're not doing anything with it, why the banhammer speaks? I just wanted to build.. I got killed so many times in a week, and didn't even answered to the fire with the fire, just wandered in the map searching for materials..
Oh yeah by the way you want your money back? think again.
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[QUOTE=Enterpriser;44670566]No.
I think Valve should be more human, but not with people who manage to come up with creative stories, but with people that encounter problems, and, i mean, Rust got EAC as internal anticheat, if someone disables it there's still VAC, and my infraction was only one, not two, neither three, no cheats, just a bypass, then why, since it uses IDS, which make a cheat detectable or not, couldn't they check if there was effectively a cheating experience rather than just a standard experience with a modded file?
I know, it may be forbidden, but if you're not doing anything with it, why the banhammer speaks? I just wanted to build.. I got killed so many times in a week, and didn't even answered to the fire with the fire, just wandered in the map searching for materials..[/QUOTE]
you disabled an internal anticheat the game uses and were banned for it and wondering why you were banned
Jesus Christ really dude, do you expect VAC to psychicly know your intent? really?
[QUOTE=Enterpriser;44670566]No.
I think Valve should be more human, but not with people who manage to come up with creative stories, but with people that encounter problems, and, i mean, Rust got EAC as internal anticheat, if someone disables it there's still VAC, and my infraction was only one, not two, neither three, no cheats, just a bypass, then why, since it uses IDS, which make a cheat detectable or not, couldn't they check if there was effectively a cheating experience rather than just a standard experience with a modded file?
I know, it may be forbidden, but if you're not doing anything with it, why the banhammer speaks? I just wanted to build.. I got killed so many times in a week, and didn't even answered to the fire with the fire, just wandered in the map searching for materials..[/QUOTE]
Valve is as human as can be, they give you a large page of rules that you had chosed to ignore, it's your fault you fell into this mess that you are continuing to dig your hole deeper with.
First you want a refund. Subscription agreement says you can't.
Second now pinning it to someone else
Third now demanding Valve to be more human, which they already are Human, just like me and you.
hippowombat, if your family was starving, and you needed to give them something to eat, would you break the law for it?
Maybe you pay for your crime, sure, but it's not the same as an omicide.
That's what i mean.
Impartial? Not at all.
Always permanent? Right, so if you replace you get permabanned, and if you effectively cheat you get permabanned anyway.
This isn't my concept of just.
[QUOTE=Enterpriser;44670604]hippowombat, if your family was starving, and you needed to give them something to eat, would you break the law for it?
Maybe you pay for your crime, sure, but it's not the same as an omicide.
That's what i mean.
Impartial? Not at all.
Always permanent? Right, so if you replace you get permabanned, and if you effectively cheat you get permabanned anyway.
This isn't my concept of just.[/QUOTE]
You broke the rules, you get the stick. You even agreed to the rules when signing up for Steam.
It all started with you agreeing to a list of rules you ignored, you knew the consequences, and now you are complaining, you don't deserve to criticize rules you just broke.
That's what i expect from something i paid for.
For example: VAC scans, 1 infraction, name of the file replaced or modified, name of the modify, it get printed onto a txt and it passes from it to a person, which reads it and determines the ban, and the duration of it, the ban will apply in a week or so, since that's what actually happens with bans about the time it takes to be effective.
That's what is a perfect ban system.
Not a machine that can't determine what's up.
[QUOTE=Enterpriser;44670637]That's what i expect from something i paid for.
For example: VAC scans, 1 infraction, name of the file replaced or modified, name of the modify, it get printed onto a txt and it passes from it to a person, which reads it and determines the ban, and the duration of it, the ban will apply in a week or so, since that's what actually happens with bans about the time it takes to be effective.
That's what is a perfect ban system.
Not a machine that can't determine what's up.[/QUOTE]
Are you Valve? They have a whole team dedicated to VAC, I'm pretty sure they can look over False bans that had happened in the past, unfortunately you were not Falsely banned according to Valve TWICE.
i complain about the unequality of the ban.
that's impartial, but it's not something i can trust, imho.
Why the hell should i trust a system that doesn't distinct between the one who does errors and fixes them and the one who takes advantage of them?
[QUOTE=Enterpriser;44670637]That's what i expect from something i paid for.
For example: VAC scans, 1 infraction, name of the file replaced or modified, name of the modify, it get printed onto a txt and it passes from it to a person, which reads it and determines the ban, and the duration of it, the ban will apply in a week or so, since that's what actually happens with bans about the time it takes to be effective.
That's what is a perfect ban system.
Not a machine that can't determine what's up.[/QUOTE]
yeah I'm sure when valve investigates via a human and sees that you disabled the internal anticheat of the game they'll believe you are innocent when you say "But I didn't do anything"
get real
[QUOTE=Enterpriser;44670604]hippowombat, if your family was starving, and you needed to give them something to eat, would you break the law for it?
Maybe you pay for your crime, sure, but it's not the same as an omicide.
That's what i mean.
Impartial? Not at all.
Always permanent? Right, so if you replace you get permabanned, and if you effectively cheat you get permabanned anyway.
This isn't my concept of just.[/QUOTE]
...cheating in a video game and stealing to survive are two different things you fucking mouthbreather, get the hell out already, jesus fucking christ
[QUOTE=Enterpriser;44670665]i complain about the unequality of the ban.
that's impartial, but it's not something i can trust, imho.
Why the hell should i trust a system that doesn't distinct between the one who does errors and fixes them and the one who takes advantage of them?[/QUOTE]
You signed away your rights on Steam, you expect equality?
See, part of the reason why they don't tell you what triggered VAC is to give people who write "hacks" less time to update it to not be detected. VAC would be useless otherwise as they'd be able to stay ahead of it.
They have a whole team but the team isn't for false bans. The team is just made up to check up the database and insert new known cheats on it.
That's what happens, nobody checks the bans it does, everybody checks the db.
Nothing gets printed in a screen and checked about bans.
The machines that are dedicated to VAC are simple servers.
Not Mainframes and not even PC, just servers with ftp access and with no save system about the cause of the ban, you get banned, and that's what they see.
[QUOTE=Enterpriser;44670694]They have a whole team but the team isn't for false bans. The team is just made up to check up the database and insert new known cheats on it.
That's what happens, nobody checks the bans it does, everybody checks the db.
Nothing gets printed in a screen and checked about bans.
The machines that are dedicated to VAC are simple servers.
Not Mainframes and not even PC, just servers with ftp access and with no save system about the cause of the ban, you get banned, and that's what they see.[/QUOTE]
You [B]disabled the anticheat to the game[/B]
0 valve employees will care or understand, and let alone believe you were "Not doing anything"
[QUOTE=Enterpriser;44670694]They have a whole team but the team isn't for false bans. The team is just made up to check up the database and insert new known cheats on it.
That's what happens, nobody checks the bans it does, everybody checks the db.
Nothing gets printed in a screen and checked about bans.
The machines that are dedicated to VAC are simple servers.
Not Mainframes and not even PC, just servers with ftp access and with no save system about the cause of the ban, you get banned, and that's what they see.[/QUOTE]
You aren't answered by a machine, the people you sent a ticket to [b]WERE PEOPLE[/b]
Here's a false ban being lifted
[img]http://www.vacbanned.com/images/seth_ban.png[/img]
[b]Unfortunately your ban happens to be legitimate, stop blaming it on a machine, it was not a "False ban" they even CHECKED it for you to verify it to be true.[/b]
[b]This picture confirms a man named "PAUL" lifting a ban.[/b]
[QUOTE=Enterpriser;44670665]i complain about the unequality of the ban.
that's impartial, but it's not something i can trust, imho.
Why the hell should i trust a system that doesn't distinct between the one who does errors and fixes them and the one who takes advantage of them?[/QUOTE]
Look, we all understand what you mean by "you didn't mean any harm"- we get that. However, it doesn't change the fact that you ignored the warnings from VAC (or rather didn't look up the consequences). What you had was the gateway to begin ruining other users' experiences, or a bypass. It's like having a meth lab with no actual meth in it; why even have one? It just makes you look suspicious and obviously isn't a good idea.
Bottom line is, you naively modified internal game files knowing to yourself that you weren't planning to do wrong, but you didn't read the rules regarding that. That's no ones fault but your own and you're going to have to deal with it.
[QUOTE=Enterpriser;44670665]Why the hell should i trust a system that doesn't distinct between the one who does errors and fixes them and the one who takes advantage of them?[/QUOTE]
Because it's the responsibility of the user to not, "do errors," in the first place.
Lmao I love the part where you took a picture of your folder to prove that you weren't cheating. That's like taking a picture of your empty drawer for the police to show them that you don't own a gun.
[QUOTE=The Saiko;44671058]Lmao I love the part where you took a picture of your folder to prove that you weren't cheating. That's like taking a picture of your empty drawer for the police to show them that you don't own a gun.[/QUOTE]
"I swear I didn't strangle that hooker in my car, see the photo? She is alive here."
[QUOTE=Enterpriser;44670382]I hoped at least in a human response, not a botlike one.
Which is what the support forgets most of the time.
Always that schedule, always.
"Sorry, we can't answer you anymore" That's what you get when you ask them to be human.
Does it seem just?[/QUOTE]
Dood, when they send the copy paste message, that means they checked over your case and you were actually modifying the game or cheating. They don't tell you anything so it's harder for hack makers to make VAC proof hacks
Maybe you should learn to read OP:
[url]http://i.imgur.com/e8HDTEt.jpg[/url]
[QUOTE=Enterpriser;44670484]What happens if you purchase Galactic Civ III and you get banned? That game costs 92.99€, you know.[/QUOTE]
well if you're dumb enough to risk getting banned on a $100+ alpha game then you really deserve it
also you are comparing irrelevant things together despite the fact that you're an idiot and that's what got yourself banned, not some magic AI that has a grudge against you
like seriously, from what I've seen from your posts you have a great chance of winning a Darwin Award and you should totally go for it man
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I'm an idiot. Ignore this post.
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Lovely, Thanks for the read guys! Gotta love it!
Gold.. This IS gold haha
Thank you OP, it was a good read. My favorite part was how you admitted to breaking several additional rules of the ToS, and turning this standard "hacker gets busted" thread into a "hacker gets busted, while bypassing the anti cheat, and also sharing accounts with friends" and then claiming that you did it to help your starving family, somehow.
[QUOTE=Enterpriser;44670604]hippowombat, if your family was starving, and you needed to give them something to eat, would you break the law for it?[/QUOTE] ^ fucking lol dude, fucking lol.
[QUOTE=Zipper Bear;44674118]Thank you OP, it was a good read. My favorite part was how you admitted to breaking several additional rules of the ToS, and turning this standard "hacker gets busted" thread into a "hacker gets busted, while bypassing the anti cheat, and also sharing accounts with friends" and then claiming that you did it to help your starving family, somehow.
[QUOTE=Enterpriser;44670604]hippowombat, if your family was starving, and you needed to give them something to eat, would you break the law for it?[/QUOTE]
^ fucking lol dude, fucking lol.[/QUOTE]
How did I not see this earlier??? pfffffttttt
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