Ending the tyranny of elevator bases. *HEAR ME OUT DEVS* - Rust

[QUOTE=Amish;47734457]I found the above contradiction funny.[/QUOTE] They thought hitting this base was going to be a huge score for them and poured all their resources into the raid. Instead, they got nothing and decided to just remove the foundations, effectively destroying the base. They invested all their resources into this raid thinking they were hitting the jackpot. Instead they got nothing. Even if they had gotten in, all they would have gotten is a few basic items and a few used guns, as this was only a fallback outpost for us. The failed at their initial goal, but destroyed the foundations essentially removing our outpost from play. And as far as I'm concerned, that's a fair move. So they failed at their initial goal, but successfully denied us this low value outpost by destroying it. So the statement isn't a contradiction if you view it in the right context. [QUOTE=ACtive_Simon;47735207]Not everybody hace so much C4 and Rockets. For Solo Players this would be unraidable.[/QUOTE] Agreed. As a solo player, you probably wouldn't be able to get that many rockets easily. But why should a solo player be able to easily raid a well-designed base built by a group of 5 people? You consider this to be balance? [editline]16th May 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=Zipper Bear;47734272]Those retaliation raids are the best. Did you finish destroying the base or did you claim it for the clan?[/QUOTE] Considering taking it over. I did drop a tool cupboard in it, so technically, it's ours now. Waiting for them to log in and see the damage for themselves before doing anything.

If people could build in your No Build zone, then why would walls even exist. they would be worthless. maybe they need to make it so the rocks have lips/ledges that you can grab/climb but NO don't let people build a 50 wood twig to get over my steel wall.

Which is easier to build-- a 10 foot high steel wall or a ladder to scale it? Why do you think a mere wall should keep a determined attacker out? We should just be given siege ladders and be done with it.

[QUOTE=Louin;47722943]We all know that there are currently two types of bases in rust expeirmental: Raidable n00b ground cabins and hardcore unraidable skycrappers, usually on rocks/ in water. The only way to get to get to the loot room (or even the outer door) is by building you way up with twig blocks, then destroying them. None can get up there really unless they poop rockets out of their ♥♥♥♥ towards the tool cabinet, so these last a while. Some may object that but this 'defensive method' is a real game breaker: bases become nearly impossible to raid unlike their ground, traditional rust bases. No naked will camp your door, no arch-nemesis will beat you in the game in fair play. So, after a long while thinking for a solution i came up with this: Any player can build how many twig building parts he want in authorized other player's territory, but will not be able to upgrade them. This might not be perfect, and surely some wont like it, so i made a pros/cons list for the idea. Pros: - No more elevator bases (Pretty obvious) - Pepole cant really seal your home with building parts (Twig fortress falls in a matter of seconds) - Major affect on online raids (Raiders try to build up, keep shootting the ♥♥♥♥♥ down!) Cons: - Most pepole love bases being so safe, taking it away would make them actually WORK to make the base safer (Dis sux!) - Having to bash twig stuff around your base after raiders are gone (I didnt really find any other cons, surely the guys in the comments can help with that. Might edit that list, though.) You think this will make the rust world a better place/would ♥♥♥♥ up gameplay? Be sure to share your thoughts in the comments! <3 Louin Edit: ive gone through the comments and come to a conclusion: right, the term of 'unraidable base' is wrong. with the c4 and the mouse to click and plcae it pretty much everybase is raidable. what i look forward to fix with this change is prevent players that DIDNT put much effort in building a base getting it pretty much 'unreachable', which happens when they drop crap wood 2x3 house on a rock. preheaps im wrong, and this method should and will stay in the game, and if you think so, prove me wrong. Politely.[/QUOTE] "Preheaps" you are wrong. I thought it odd you pointed out that defenders could shoot out the twig towers over and over while the raiders try to get in... its like you ignore the fact that people love shooting out people's twig elevators people are using to try to get in their bases. I love shooting these elevators out and watching the people fall back down. I've downed many and there is nothing more hilarious that taking only their wood, building plan, and hatchet before reviving them. If people are building shit-shacks on top of rocks, why are so upset you have to work to get into them? they obviously are not going to take much out of raiding them to begin with. The people on rocks are only a few pickaxes away from missing their foundations, so really what is the big deal?

[url]http://playrust.com/devblog-60/[/url] [QUOTE=garry]On my list for next week are ladders...[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE=ACtive_Simon;47735207]Not everybody hace so much C4 and Rockets. For Solo Players this would be unraidable.[/QUOTE] So why is this a bad thing? Personally, I think huge bases should be unraidable to solo players. You got a lot of solo griefers out there. Their only goal is to fuck your gametime up and make you miserable. Its what they want. Their numbers -far- outnumber -groups- of them. I prefer solo players having to take a LOT of extra time to get into a base. Random griefer number 700 will have a much harder time getting in. Now an organized clan or group? I think they should have a much easier time knocking down doors and looting bases.

[QUOTE=Moeyy123;47725006]The raid towers really suck imo. I've been raided like 20 times maybe in the past few months and i think 19 of them were people attacking from top to bottom.[/QUOTE] And maybe u Need other 20 raid too learn something more over game!!? ..... damn damn