Not sure if you have tested this but can someone build a stair on the exterior up to the 3rd lvl, jump onto the middle pillars that can't go to the ceiling, c4 your walls, and then jump over into your base?
Also for people saying they could stair to the roof and blow a hole in the ceiling... You realize you can't do that right?
There are so many morons here lol.. "Oh yeah I'll just blow off the ceiling and steal your stuff bro".
Ok pro raiders.. go ahead..
[QUOTE=intoxicated*;43404373]Yeah they could just build up to your roof and grab them through it.
8/10 for effort.
EDIT: Triple stack, barricade, blow out the second floor, place a new barricade move up and so on.
ggwp barricade olympics op.[/QUOTE]
What are you referring to? I mean with this triple stacks and barricade?
And how you can get from the roof into his base?
[QUOTE=amwolf92;43404521]I could carry with me a foundation, 8 pillars, 4 stairs, and c4 and drop into your house from the roof.[/QUOTE]
Same question, what are the options to get inside his base from the roof?
[QUOTE=AspiriNice;43404702]What are you referring to? I mean with this triple stacks and barricade?
And how you can get from the roof into his base?
Same question, what are the options to get inside his base from the roof?[/QUOTE]
There are no options. You can't destory a ceiling. These morons just haven't figured that out yet.
[QUOTE=Cicero;43404563]Not sure if you have tested this but can someone build a stair on the exterior up to the 3rd lvl, jump onto the middle pillars that can't go to the ceiling, c4 your walls, and then jump over into your base?[/QUOTE]
The outer perimeter of the base has pillars on the middle edges of the foundations. The only pillar which wouldn't be built to the top would be the middle pillar (which ends once space below the 4th story ceiling). I don't think you are able to reach that middle pillar because the ceiling limits jump height and the distance is too great. Even if you were able to get onto the middle pillar, the rest of the edge and corner pillars would block you from jumping further in.
[QUOTE=tealc117;43403839]I made a smaller version of kuchache's base. Its a bit quicker to make and better on the resources but its half the size. It is still raidproof as far as I know. The base is also grenade proof as doorways are placed to block off entrances. The doorways don't actually stop you from placing additional large storage boxes.. well they do but you can place them so that it just barely sticks out the doorway and you can still access them after opening the door.
A word of warning when building this base: Place a workbench and lots of wood in your base. If the storage box gets destroyed, you can never place a new one down if you don't have the supplies to build another one. Luckily the doorways has a large hitbox and shields most if not all of the damage the storage box would take. See the video to see just how bulletproof the storage box is. I had forgot to place a workbench in my base so if someone destroyed the large storage box I placed earlier I had no means of placing a new one.
Sorry for the darkness after the 1m30s mark... I don't know why it came out so dark in the video. It isn't nearly as dark ingame but that might be because I have my gamma turned up a bit.
[video=youtube;3hMNoNSaJX4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hMNoNSaJX4&feature=youtu.be[/video]
I will probably make another video showing how to make it... in a brighter setting too.[/QUOTE]
Just out of curiousity, did you came up with the idea to make the building like this after reading what I said about the doorways :P? I like your idea of just having a door on the side so you have more space inside.
tealc117 has used a 2x1 and extended it with pillar foundations to a 4x3 right?
Why did kushache made one extra pillar foundation ring?
Is it more secure? I saw once barricades placed on pillars so you can climb them - is there any possibility to do this in that design?
I'm also not sure if the second ring of foundations is actually necessary
So when you go out raiding and pvp, how do you get your items back into your base if you need to die in order to get back to your sleeping bags/crates?
Also can what's with the crate half on the edge? You know they just break that crate? I think they can put down a crate of their own and then a barracade and jump onto that and get in? Anwyays great build and please make a video with a detailed analysis.
Thanks!
[QUOTE=uperkurk;43405258]So when you go out raiding and pvp, how do you get your items back into your base if you need to die in order to get back to your sleeping bags/crates?
Also can what's with the crate half on the edge? You know they just break that crate? I think they can put down a crate of their own and then a barracade and jump onto that and get in? Anwyays great build and please make a video with a detailed analysis.
Thanks![/QUOTE]
Are you serious? Just read the posts above including youtube video....
Here is your house has the identical which raid :
[IMG]http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1389/szih.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/6759/j8k7.jpg[/IMG]
This base is not 100% C4 Proof.
illegalz what is that 2nd screenshot supposed to show? Its way to dark to even guess.
[QUOTE=illegalz;43405391]Here is your house has the identical which raid :
[IMG]http://img811.imageshack.us/img811/1389/szih.jpg[/IMG]
[IMG]http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/6759/j8k7.jpg[/IMG]
This base is not 100% C4 Proof.[/QUOTE]
What's your point? Place pillars on the open spots and it's fixed?
[QUOTE=Cicero;43405430]illegalz what is that 2nd screenshot supposed to show? Its way to dark to even guess.[/QUOTE]
There are large storage boxes placed on the mid pillars - but i have no idea how one is supposed to jump from box to box.
[QUOTE=verance;43405447]What's your point? Place pillars on the open spots and it's fixed?[/QUOTE]
i guess the thing is you can't extend the mid pillars up to the ceiling so that the last story is not pillared out, but still... HOW DO THEY JUMP FROM BOX TO BOX!?
If a team still want to really break in that house they can...
Foundation + stairs and you go up... :)
ps: they will probably never do it, but if someone want just for fun, they construct everything and just place near the house right away.
[QUOTE=guily6669;43405467]Foundation + stairs and you go up... :)[/QUOTE]
hmmm???
As you see him on the second screen it's possible to jump of box in box and to reach the wall or there is a strongroom..
[QUOTE=AspiriNice;43405516]hmmm???[/QUOTE]
Yeah well... you can put wood foundation, 4 pillars and wood stairs to go up
or use any of the pilars and foundations already made to make stairs.
Any door\wall can be breakable by C4, so there's no way to make a safe house.
ps: The only way to make a safe house is having like 20 very trustful guys from all around the world that can be protecting the base every day at any hour of the day, full of guns, ammo and a huge castle :).
What about getting rid of the ceilings not above the loot room and extending the pillars on the exterior ring up past the ceiling heights? I can't test this since I am still at work but is it possible to place C4 on a wall below you while standing on the edge of the ceiling?
[QUOTE=guily6669;43405696]Yeah well... you can put wood foundation, 4 pillars and wood stairs to go up[/QUOTE]
Oh really?...
[QUOTE=guily6669;43405696]Any door\wall can be breakable by C4, so there's no way to make a safe house.[/QUOTE]
Again... i'm shocked!
The thing is, in this case if you build stairs up there is no wall next to it (have you even looked at the screenshots?)
The only way until now is the method which this Frenchman posted - but i still don't understand how they jump from box to box in a crouched position with their head next to the ceiling.
[QUOTE=Cicero;43405714]I can't test this since I am still at work but is it possible to place C4 on a wall below you while standing on the edge of the ceiling?[/QUOTE]
I don't know about that but i guess there is a way.
What i was thinking about right now is, you can stop the box method ( still don't understand it and not sure if legit - please someone explain it) by adding another pillar foundation ring without ceilings and the pillars going higher than the ceiling level (kinda like Cicero has suggested). Shouldn't be possible to drop from the pillar down under the ceiling again or am i wrong?
How is he crossing with boxes? There should be edge pillars on all the foundations which extend to the very top ceiling, so there shouldn't be a way to cross directly through the middle or diagonally.
The box crossing can be fixed though by adding another layer of foundations around the base and extending the pillars (including the middle one) past the fourth story of the house and then capping it with a ceiling. So essentially building a 5th story around the perimeter of of the base- it wouldn't let them abuse the pillars that aren't touching the ceiling within the inner 2 rings. Additionally, you could use this outer ring to enclose your entire building with walls. That way you have protection when transferring items into your base without building a flaw around your transfer area.
edit: Just saw the second picture above. Couldn't see that picture at work because of the bad screen contrast. I think this is fixed by doing what I proposed above.
[QUOTE=verance;43404777]There are no options. You can't destory a ceiling. These morons just haven't figured that out yet.[/QUOTE]
Sorry for assuming a ceiling was made out of the same material as a wall, but apparently ceilings are made with a perfect wood that can not be destroyed (even through a wall is made out of the same shit)
This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of, I can destroy walls but not ceilings? How? Why? WTF! Also don't call people morons when what they assume to be true is common sense. The morons are the one that made walls destructible and ceilings not. OOOOh you read it somewhere before I did yeah you are so smart.
You just called the devs "morons".
I would be cautious with posts like that - might lead to a ban.
The point is you have to make a base that is secure with just pillars and ceilings. Go ahead and blow my walls, you will never get the loot. The only reason I have walls on the 3rd and 4th floor is to prevent grenade and bullet attacks.
Also I'm not really sure what your screenshot shows, as it just shows you getting on the roof. If you go to the server you will see there is already a staircase to the roof and no security threat from it.
So is the outer ring of pillars required? Would be nice not to have to farm for those pillars
if this base is actually c4 proof then actually id consider it to be a bad thing.
Im not saying I approve of the fact that there are players duping c4 or anything but I am saying that this games survival aspect is slightly oriented around pvp......
[editline]3rd January 2014[/editline]
if this base is actually c4 proof then actually id consider it to be a bad thing.
Im not saying I approve of the fact that there are players duping c4 or anything but I am saying that part of this games survival aspect is oriented around pvp......
So how do we store stuff in?Oh wait silly me this is for trolling
[QUOTE=Exre;43409097]So how do we store stuff in?Oh wait silly me this is for trolling[/QUOTE]
After you open the door, you can reach a chest. Put stuff in chest, die, move stuff around once you are in room. Not that complicated.
It seems like every third post is from someone saying the same shit that was proven false on the first page of the thread. I can't stop facepalming. Anyone else?
Going to build this tonight but with some modifications to prevent things that were posted above from happening. I'll be sure to provide pictures. I've almost gathered all the resources....
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