[B]Attention; 420Bluntz has just raided this base[/B][B] no base is safe from us[/B]
i went to the server the base was on and im not able to place a sleeping bag up there?
hows everyone else doing with it
[QUOTE=tealc117;43403839]I made a smaller version of kuchache's base. Its a bit quicker to make and better on the resources but its half the size. It is still raidproof as far as I know. The base is also grenade proof as doorways are placed to block off entrances. The doorways don't actually stop you from placing additional large storage boxes.. well they do but you can place them so that it just barely sticks out the doorway and you can still access them after opening the door.
A word of warning when building this base: Place a workbench and lots of wood in your base. If the storage box gets destroyed, you can never place a new one down if you don't have the supplies to build another one. Luckily the doorways has a large hitbox and shields most if not all of the damage the storage box would take. See the video to see just how bulletproof the storage box is. I had forgot to place a workbench in my base so if someone destroyed the large storage box I placed earlier I had no means of placing a new one.
Sorry for the darkness after the 1m30s mark... I don't know why it came out so dark in the video. It isn't nearly as dark ingame but that might be because I have my gamma turned up a bit.
[video=youtube;3hMNoNSaJX4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hMNoNSaJX4&feature=youtu.be[/video]
I will probably make another video showing how to make it... in a brighter setting too.[/QUOTE]
This guy has got it, no stairs, no lip to land grenades on, are you sure they can't jump and place explosive charges? Cause if not this is the shit ;)
Kustache - we did not glitch or use a sleeping bag the first time we raided your house. We simply blew 2 walls made a stairway and climbed our way up to the 2nd floor then blew up your metal door. Luckily for you we left your sleeping bags alone to see if you could fix it but after your bad attitude we came back today and broke in again with a sleeping bag to finish you off.
Appreciate the publicity you did for our server but don't get angry when we fairly broke in.
Edit - As long as you have a single 1x1 at the bottom it's possible to reach the top no matter how many pillars to add.
I was testing my idea before actually going through with it... as far as I can tell you can't get to that pillar (both with and without the crate on it). Was using an old decayed base as a testing grounds.
[img]http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/450657989501606360/ECB07F87D11876193BF095153A828CAD7CC63040/[/img]
Yup no ones mad. Was in progress of destroying all walls and replacing with pillars, but someone else got in (not sure how) and destroyed everything, so oh well that base is over.
I have rcon on another server, I will be streaming another build showing the design and attempting any breakin ideas anyone has. I'll probably do that sometime tomorrow.
[QUOTE=kushache;43411393]Yup no ones mad. Was in progress of destroying all walls and replacing with pillars, but someone else got in (not sure how) and destroyed everything, so oh well that base is over.
I have rcon on another server, I will be streaming another build showing the design and attempting any breaking ideas anyone has. I'll probably do that sometime tomorrow.[/QUOTE]
Guessing it was the 420Bluntz. Or whoever was on the server yesterday. They where so proud the broke in it. But i looked and saw the base wasn't changed yet. And they didn't believe me when i said that...
At least its a pretty good start. Most common raiders won't even attempt to go for it.
To use a doorway and a door like in that video.
Do I place the doorway and the door. Then open the door and place the large box then close the door? And does it work for metal door as well?
[QUOTE=Peekapew;43410743]Kustache - we did not glitch or use a sleeping bag the first time we raided your house. We simply blew 2 walls made a stairway and climbed our way up to the 2nd floor then blew up your metal door. Luckily for you we left your sleeping bags alone to see if you could fix it but after your bad attitude we came back today and broke in again with a sleeping bag to finish you off.
Appreciate the publicity you did for our server but don't get angry when we fairly broke in.
Edit - As long as you have a single 1x1 at the bottom it's possible to reach the top no matter how many pillars to add.[/QUOTE]
You don't need a 1x1 at the bottom.. You can litterally place pillars on every possible spot.
Anyone can confirm if this is a possible way to get in or explain how this can work?
[QUOTE=illegalz;43405391][IMG]http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/6759/j8k7.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=AspiriNice;43412235]Anyone can confirm if this is a possible way to get in or explain how this can work?[/QUOTE]
Thinking about it right now, yes, this is actually a big weakness in this house setup. The problem is the center pillars under the roof cannot be built up that last story (which is why they're missing in the picture, and why there's crates on top of them). Not sure how to stop that.
I mean, you can't even just remove the roof off of the pillars because they can stand on edge of the roof and c4 the top floor. What if the roof extended only 1 foundation out from the base house, and then there's a 2 foundation buffer zone, without missing pillars or roofs, outside that. There would be a foundation with a missing top-center pillar right next to the house wall, but you wouldn't be able to jump to it using a staircase built outside since it's a 2 foundation distance.
Just make the second ring of foundations without ceilings and make the pillars atleast as high as the ceiling.
[QUOTE=verance;43412806]Just make the second ring of foundations without ceilings and make the pillars atleast as high as the ceiling.[/QUOTE]
This has been already suggested...
[QUOTE=AspiriNice;43405751]What i was thinking about right now is, you can stop the box method ( still don't understand it and not sure if legit - please someone explain it) by adding another pillar foundation ring without ceilings and the pillars going higher than the ceiling level (kinda like Cicero has suggested). Shouldn't be possible to drop from the pillar down under the ceiling again or am i wrong?[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=andrewgk;43405760]The box crossing can be fixed though by adding another layer of foundations around the base and extending the pillars (including the middle one) past the fourth story of the house and then capping it with a ceiling. So essentially building a 5th story around the perimeter of of the base- it wouldn't let them abuse the pillars that aren't touching the ceiling within the inner 2 rings. Additionally, you could use this outer ring to enclose your entire building with walls. That way you have protection when transferring items into your base without building a flaw around your transfer area.[/QUOTE]
I'm not sure if the ceilings are necessary but it would save a lot material.
verance are you sure that an outer ring with pillars on the same height as the roof is enough (that's what i was thinking too, but not tested yet).
My only question is, if this jumping from box to box on the mid pillers is possible, because the pillers on the edge which are also in the middle are in the way. This is the only thing i would like to know, or if someone could make a video using this technique.
Yeah I have build it myself on my server. It's impossible to get on one of the pillars with 2 rings of foundations full of pillars.
You're mental, that isn't hard to raid at all....
The most secure wooden bases are those with few foundations(4) and built high with a couple of floors for stuff, then going up the same length again(like a hamburger) and having metal foundations at angles with pillars(not against your base) around the outside so it is stupidly expensive for anyone to even think about building up and if they want to raid it then have to go through 100+ metal doors and fair play to them if they do that.
Also make a crap base near it, with small stashes in and make sure they're placed in the middle of the room so that people don't have them rendered o their screen :).
[QUOTE=mrcjevans;43413746]You're mental, that isn't hard to raid at all....
The most secure wooden bases are those with few foundations(4) and built high with a couple of floors for stuff, then going up the same length again(like a hamburger) and having metal foundations at angles with pillars(not against your base) around the outside so it is stupidly expensive for anyone to even think about building up and if they want to raid it then have to go through 100+ metal doors and fair play to them if they do that.
Also make a crap base near it, with small stashes in and make sure they're placed in the middle of the room so that people don't have them rendered o their screen :).[/QUOTE]
And then the hacker came and raided your whole base
[QUOTE=verance;43414014]And then the hacker came and raided your whole base[/QUOTE]
It's in alpha, all waiting for next update :)
[QUOTE=mrcjevans;43414043]It's in alpha, all waiting for next update :)[/QUOTE]
Or just try to understand this house and build it. The latest version can't be raided. I'm 100% sure.
hahahaha! I could break this in 3 minutes
[QUOTE=verance;43414088]Or just try to understand this house and build it. The latest version can't be raided. I'm 100% sure.[/QUOTE]
i never attempted to raid this base but sean a much larger version doudle hight and width ,and it seems that although roofs are not destructable the walls attached to the roof are , you need a buddy to align you up and just plop a lot of c4 on a corner and the damadge hit the wall ,wall opens now time to start the pillar pop.so far only came across 2 basses that seem unraidable and the one is about 20 stories high with 7-15 peeps in there,other was a metal base in a cazy rock formation where you could only see roof found entrance and exit but had to be inside base to use exit because of rock formation and gave up after about 15 doors too costly for only zig zaging 20 feet inn (one mans UN-raidable is another mans Raid me!)
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[QUOTE=Wallsmalls;43414401]i never attempted to raid this base but sean a much larger version doudle hight and width ,and it seems that although roofs are not destructable the walls attached to the roof are , you need a buddy to align you up and just plop a lot of c4 on a corner and the damadge hit the wall ,wall opens now time to start the pillar pop.so far only came across 2 basses that seem unraidable and the one is about 20 stories high with 7-15 peeps in there,other was a metal base in a cazy rock formation where you could only see roof found entrance and exit but had to be inside base to use exit because of rock formation and gave up after about 15 doors too costly for only zig zaging 20 feet inn (one mans UN-raidable is another mans Raid me!)[/QUOTE]
allso entrance set up to force a comit once u can see the door placement ment unless u could open the door you could not leave
This thread is really getting annoying.. Apparently this building is too complex for people to understand it.
I have build the final version of this building and I'm gonna have fun while never getting raided.
Cya.
[QUOTE=bbailey1808;43414353]hahahaha! I could break this in 3 minutes[/QUOTE]
Words are cheap, buddy. Say it with pictures.
[QUOTE=Gliktch;43414487]Words are cheap, buddy. Say it with pictures.[/QUOTE]
yeah i agree are raid failed the first time with 8 guys on a similar base just bigger and took 2 hours to come up with the roof pup out wall crap. and getting inn .. dont even get me started. any one who says I could raid that base in 3 min is full of it because even with manpower and a few experienced minds in the party it was dam Ruff. (we only chose to raid because it looked near impossible. if i was to recomend a suggestion it would be make sure the roof is just Unacesible although it may not be the entrance point it could make one )
[editline]4th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=Wallsmalls;43414550]yeah i agree are raid failed the first time with 8 guys on a similar base just bigger and took 2 hours to come up with the roof pup out wall crap. and getting inn .. dont even get me started. any one who says I could raid that base in 3 min is full of it because even with manpower and a few experienced minds in the party it was dam Ruff. (we only chose to raid because it looked near impossible. if i was to recomend a suggestion it would be make sure the roof is just Unacesible although it may not be the entrance point it could make one )[/QUOTE]
[editline]4th January 2014[/editline]
ps versoin we attempted was on Communitty server Jesus Raptor dragons i think,If u seen server you know which one im talking about
[editline]4th January 2014[/editline]
pps and no it wasnt the wallburians!we had no admin help all aquired meterials
[QUOTE=Wallsmalls;43414401]i never attempted to raid this base but sean a much larger version doudle hight and width ,and it seems that although roofs are not destructable the walls attached to the roof are , you need a buddy to align you up and just plop a lot of c4 on a corner and the damadge hit the wall ,wall opens now time to start the pillar pop.so far only came across 2 basses that seem unraidable and the one is about 20 stories high with 7-15 peeps in there,other was a metal base in a cazy rock formation where you could only see roof found entrance and exit but had to be inside base to use exit because of rock formation and gave up after about 15 doors too costly for only zig zaging 20 feet inn (one mans UN-raidable is another mans Raid me!)[/QUOTE]
Does the underlying wall only get damaged if there's no ceiling overhang? Meaning, you can destroy someone's internal walls by C4-ing the middle of their roof constantly? If not, then you should realise that the most up-to-date version of this base design includes ceilings which 'overhang' the walls, making it impossible to place C4 near enough to the walls to damage them from the roof.
As for your other descriptions... If it can be looted by cheaters with god mode on and unlimited (1000+) C4, then it's not relevant to this thread. Thanks for your input though :)
My housemates and I will be making the newest version of this base on our server - we'll see how it goes ;)
[QUOTE=Wallsmalls;43414550]yeah i agree are raid failed the first time with 8 guys on a similar base just bigger and took 2 hours to come up with the roof pup out wall crap. and getting inn .. dont even get me started. any one who says I could raid that base in 3 min is full of it because even with manpower and a few experienced minds in the party it was dam Ruff. (we only chose to raid because it looked near impossible. if i was to recomend a suggestion it would be make sure the roof is just Unacesible although it may not be the entrance point it could make one )
[editline]4th January 2014[/editline]
ps versoin we attempted was on Communitty server Jesus Raptor dragons i think,If u seen server you know which one im talking about
[editline]4th January 2014[/editline]
pps and no it wasnt the wallburians!we had no admin help all aquired meterials[/QUOTE]
First off... read the whole goddamn thread (every post. every picture and every video) and then refer to it in your posts.
And second!! Get your grammar right man - it hurts reading your crap :S
[QUOTE=verance;43414480]This thread is really getting annoying.. Apparently this building is too complex for people to understand it.
I have build the final version of this building and I'm gonna have fun while never getting raided.
Cya.[/QUOTE]
You think you coudl post a video of you doing it so i could build one 2??
[QUOTE=verance;43414088]Or just try to understand this house and build it. The latest version can't be raided. I'm 100% sure.[/QUOTE]
i posted our method for the (swiss fammilly Robertson) version and do truelly hope that you are unraidable but pictures where very dark to be sure with butt i suggest u try like 6 c4 i bet a wall pops worked for us gl. also i Know explosive damadge can seep through a roof ass when we got raided they did the roof pop method for 4th floor access and the charge killed my buddies sleeping body perhaps it was a glitch but if so its possible
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[QUOTE=AspiriNice;43414661]First off... read the whole goddamn thread (every post. every picture and every video) and then refer to it in your posts.
And second!! Get your grammar right man - it hurts reading your crap :S[/QUOTE]
yah gl i spent a long time working my way across 6 pages of post with dark ass pictures trying to come to grips with visual that words had left and pictures posted didnt clearly describe ,i must say srry for some how offending you, the post was not a attempt at trolling it was sincere but the attitude you convey is just plain offensive i garenstee* that your base will get the attention that you are asking for Trolls will be trolled that is Rust
Couldn't a wall hacker just go to your roof, look down and loot stuff through the ceiling?
Ok I think I have a way of getting up stairs.
From the looks of your screenshot inside the house (lets assume I've managed to get inside). There is enough room to build a shelter. So I place a shelter in the middle of the hole, build some large storage boxes, use that to climb on top of the shelter. As you can stack shelters, I place another one half way across the top of the first one, then place another large storage box on the other half. Use the second set of boxes to jump onto the second shelter. And I should be high enough to jump through the hole?
Have you tried to enter that way? Obviously this would only work with planning and co-ordination of at least 4 people (placing shelters and boxes fast, whilst providing covering fire).
There is no room to build a shelter anywhere. Also, any thoughts on wall hackers getting through the ceiling?
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