Suggestion - Insanity - Rust

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;41678809]Do you feel that introducing the ability for the game to pathologically inflict a near-compulsion to PvP (that is, tricked into griefing, compared to players entering a PvP arena with the intention of fighting) is a net positive addition to Rust's gameplay?[/QUOTE] Sockem: "No, it isn't." Then why have you not renounced it, then? You've agreed with me that the feature will hurt gameplay, overall. Edit: oh my fucking god do you not understand constructive criticism *jetpacks out of thread* *jetpacks off of planet* *jetpacks into sun*

I really think this insanity stuff if waaay out of context for the game to be fun

[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;41685894]Sockem: "No, it isn't." Then why have you not renounced it, then? You've agreed with me that the feature will hurt gameplay, overall. Edit: oh my fucking god do you not understand constructive criticism *jetpacks out of thread* *jetpacks off of planet* *jetpacks into sun*[/QUOTE] Oh my fucking god you do not understand constructive criticism. Let me explain it to you: Derp makes a sandwich that has anchovies, garlic, tomato, and peanut butter Herp: Tastes good, except for the garlic Derp makes the next sandwich without garlic Herp: Much better This is NOT an example of constructive criticism: Derp makes a sandwich that has anchovies, garlic, tomato, and peanut butter Herp: Your sandwich is bad and you should feel bad (:zoid:) I posted that bit about "Not all of it has to be added" because there are a lot of people here saying that the whole idea is bad because 1 little point (What do you expect me to do? doublepost?) [editline]2nd August 2013[/editline] Puppyxz, chill with the ratings. If you are trying to troll, it's just a box icon.

This would really lower down the mass KoS ingame with a realistic feeling. It would make you think twice about killing someone, making it a choice of: Do I want to have a lower sanity which would make the game harder, or kill the person and get his loot to increase my chances of survival? More ideas I have is: Bodies stay on the ground but decay over time, if your player sees a body up close, their sanity will decrease depending on what state of the decay the body is in. Murdering someone with a melee weapon would decrease your sanity more than shooting someone. Not being around players should only decrease your sanity to a certain level, IE level 0 is insanity, 50 is max, not being around players = 45 sanity which has little to no effects. Hallucinations are blurry and sort of transparent, making them easy to see as hallucinations up close but from a far they look like players and or animals. Being insane or having anxiety can make it so there is a chance of not being able to stop bleeding when you use a med kit, causing you to maybe use two instead of one. Possibly burning yourself while cooking food or smelting. Killing 2-3 people won't make you insane, because when it's a wasteland, you realize you have to do anything to survive, and that would mean killing another human being, but going on a massacre and killing every person you see would cause a lower sanity. Also, to everyone that is saying "This iz a bawd feturez becuz it will mak da game hard far me to plah it" then go play Minecraft or something. This is a great idea and before you try to push it to the side and act like it would make the game terrible, then give it a chance and if you don't like it then the dev team can remove it with the single press of the delete button.

[QUOTE=TrollSB617;41686818]This would really lower down the mass KoS ingame with a realistic feeling. It would make you think twice about killing someone, making it a choice of: Do I want to have a lower sanity which would make the game harder, or kill the person and get his loot to increase my chances of survival? More ideas I have is: Bodies stay on the ground but decay over time, if your player sees a body up close, their sanity will decrease depending on what state of the decay the body is in. Murdering someone with a melee weapon would decrease your sanity more than shooting someone. Not being around players should only decrease your sanity to a certain level, IE level 0 is insanity, 50 is max, not being around players = 45 sanity which has little to no effects. Hallucinations are blurry and sort of transparent, making them easy to see as hallucinations up close but from a far they look like players and or animals. Being insane or having anxiety can make it so there is a chance of not being able to stop bleeding when you use a med kit, causing you to maybe use two instead of one. Possibly burning yourself while cooking food or smelting. Killing 2-3 people won't make you insane, because when it's a wasteland, you realize you have to do anything to survive, and that would mean killing another human being, but going on a massacre and killing every person you see would cause a lower sanity. Also, to everyone that is saying "This iz a bawd feturez becuz it will mak da game hard far me to plah it" then go play Minecraft or something. This is a great idea and before you try to push it to the side and act like it would make the game terrible, then give it a chance and if you don't like it then the dev team can remove it with the single press of the delete button.[/QUOTE] I like your ideas, except for being alone, the medkit not working always, and cooking. All the other ones are really good ideas. [I]*Adding to OP, crediting TrollSB617*[/I]

I think it is an awesome feature! Good thinking i think they should FOR SURE implement this it will make their game stand out

[QUOTE=Daniel Munoz;41687196]I think it is an awesome feature! Good thinking i think they should FOR SURE implement this it will make their game stand out[/QUOTE] I wouldn't say "stand out", but I think it would improve the game, making it more about survival and less about unbalanced deathmatch.

[QUOTE=Sockem;41691086]I wouldn't say "stand out", but I think it would improve the game, making it more about survival and less about unbalanced deathmatch.[/QUOTE] That's exactly how it should be, players should be fighting to survive not counting how many kills they can get in a day

[QUOTE=Daniel Munoz;41691142]That's exactly how it should be, players should be fighting to survive not counting how many kills they can get in a day[/QUOTE] Unless they're psychopaths. 9_6

Haha exactly! I linked this thread in my list so hopefully it gets some attention, couldnt think of a better way to fix the problem

Dude you need to be a DEV

This could significantly increase the difficulty of the game for an player. First off insanity after killing many people? How aren't you gonna kill many people with all the RDMing going on, this would be awful until voice is released. Also not noticing damage? How would you know when you have some dick hatcheting you in the back after you looted a location. Being left alone and all the other things, this would not make the game enjoyable this would restrict players from playing as to how they want to (Mass Murder? Lonely?) I mean you explain the simple fixes for not having or curing it but it could turn this game into a disaster, if they would consider implementing this into the game they would need an experimental group. Also think of how much coding and shit would need to be done to be able to have every player with these attributes.

[QUOTE=FootballBeast;41693361]This could significantly increase the difficulty of the game for an player. First off insanity after killing many people? How aren't you gonna kill many people with all the RDMing going on, this would be awful until voice is released. Also not noticing damage? How would you know when you have some dick hatcheting you in the back after you looted a location. Being left alone and all the other things, this would not make the game enjoyable this would restrict players from playing as to how they want to (Mass Murder? Lonely?) I mean you explain the simple fixes for not having or curing it but it could turn this game into a disaster, if they would consider implementing this into the game they would need an experimental group. Also think of how much coding and shit would need to be done to be able to have every player with these attributes.[/QUOTE] Currently it is too difficult for anybody spawning. This would make people think twice about spawnkilling and murdering people who are just starting to settle. Not every aspect of my idea has to be added, by the way. I am not considering loneliness in my idea anymore. Rust is supposed to be survival? It is realistic for murderers to suffer mental issues. Besides, if they got a good thing set up, they can take lithium tablets and stuff. Thought of some new ideas. Maybe if the enemy player shoots within 50 meters of you or damages you, it does not lower your sanity by killing him. If you kill somebody who you witnessed murdering somebody, you do not lose sanity.

[QUOTE=Sockem;41693446]Currently it is too difficult for anybody spawning. This would make people think twice about spawnkilling and murdering people who are just starting to settle. Not every aspect of my idea has to be added, by the way. I am not considering loneliness in my idea anymore. Rust is supposed to be survival? It is realistic for murderers to suffer mental issues. Besides, if they got a good thing set up, they can take lithium tablets and stuff. Thought of some new ideas. Maybe if the enemy player shoots within 50 meters of you or damages you, it does not lower your sanity by killing him. If you kill somebody who you witnessed murdering somebody, you do not lose sanity.[/QUOTE] Are you updating the original post?

[QUOTE=Daniel Munoz;41693479]Are you updating the original post?[/QUOTE] Of course! :P [QUOTE=Mardorz;41691966]Dude you need to be a DEV[/QUOTE] Thanks, but lol I could never dev anything. A: I don't know how to code yet [sp](Maybe I can get off my ass and actually start)[/sp] B: Probably not patient enough to do it C: I don't have the best people skills D: I don't have any links/experience in game development/developers E: Nothing on my resume [I]Frankly, this list can go on an on[/I] [editline] Poop [/editline] Puppyxz I would like to ask you to refrain from spamming ratings.

[QUOTE=FootballBeast;41693361]Also think of how much coding and shit would need to be done to be able to have every player with these attributes.[/QUOTE] It actually would not be that much work in the grand scheme of things. I have no idea what the Rust code itself looks like, but I'd probably be able to hack together a generic prototype of this system in an afternoon once I had a design planned out. Object-oriented programming, which I assume is at least part of Rust/Unity's design methodology, makes this fairly easy because you just create as many copies of the thing (player, prop, item pickup) as you want by calling new instances of it. So, let's stick to discussing the pros and cons of the idea as it applies to gameplay, balance, and fun. How hard it is to code doesn't matter, because that's only a matter of how long it takes to get right. And that can usually be solved by hiring more good people to get it done faster if you want to spend the money. :D

-snip- [editline] Poop [/editline] Maybe the devs could allow a team of fans to code builds containing ideas from the community and test them :D

Damn, Puppyxz must really hate you, sockem. Anyways, this seems like a cool suggestion, and if it was implemented, would be an interesting addition to the game.

[QUOTE=cloudcakes30;41693887]Damn, Puppyxz must really hate you, sockem. Anyways, this seems like a cool suggestion, and if it was implemented, would be an interesting addition to the game.[/QUOTE] Puppyxz? He has like 10 posts and didn't happen to get banned along with the other rating spammer (spawny) Now back on topic; Thank you, and do you have any specific feedback/ideas that you would like to add to this? (Not a bump, only a couple minutes after the above post)