[QUOTE=Guerrilla85;43985986]Let's be realistic here... we need something DIFFERENT.
If you want a building/crafting/Tribesman-cannibal type game: Buy The Forest when it comes out in a month or two.
If you want a building/crafting/Dinosaur-type game: Buy The Stomping Land when it comes out in a month or two.
If you want a building/crafting/Animal-type game: Buy Minecraft, it's already out.
If you want a building/crafting/Zombie-type game: Buy any of the 1000 games out like that.
We really do need something different and intriguing.
(P.S. This was not an advertisement for those games, just sited for example)[/QUOTE]
It's True, others game will come in few month, or are already out. Or you put a enemy in relation with scenario or storyline or you put any organism wtf. I think that you put must have sense with scenario or storyline.
To be honest though, all that says is that we definitely definitely don't need another zombie game. Which I agree with. Out of the other 3 suggestions, 2 aren't out yet so we don't know exactly how they will be, and the other is minecraft which I'm "pretty sure" rust isn't going to end up imitating.
I would like to see mutant animals kind of like in STALKER which was a amazing radiation themed game. I would love to see a mutant boar with huge tusks charging at you but i just read the poll and i see a lot of votes for dinosaurs which would drive a lot of people to be afraid to fight npcs when you know you have this 50 foot tall dino infront of you.
[editline]24th February 2014[/editline]
Plus didnt dinos just die off and this takes place in semi modern time ?
Military would be ideal but Mutants would be epic!!! I just bought the game not to long ago and it's like crack once you begin to play you cannot get off of it!!! Mutant Humans / Animals would be a nice mix. It'll be different with the radiation towns all around so Mutants would fit perfect!! I don't believe Dinos would fit in this game TBH..
If dinos get in just buy rights from Jurassic park and rename the game to Jurassic park simulator
[QUOTE=vs.FEAR;44028323]Add dinosaurs output game spoiled only pity is 12baksov[/QUOTE]
I don't think this would be a problem. The current animals run way below 12baksov and they still are challenging. Increasing the baksov to over 20 would make the game too hard for new players.
[QUOTE=Stewie.D;44027884]For those of you who want military, forget about it. Respect the games creator.
In fact forget the whole poll. I don't care what people what the most. This game has sold over a million copies for a reason. Let Garry and his team continue to make the decisions. I am confident that they will make the right one, if they ignore their gut and go with the public decision on things like this .. They risk ruining it.[/QUOTE]
I hope you got the idea behind early access and 'testers influence' in game development! ;) If my opinion isn't worth a cent the devs should screw their 30% finished game to hell.
Luckily, they care about the overall noise and implementing features requested by the community!
I voted Dinosaurs. As far as melding modern weaponry and buildings with creatures that have been extinct for millions of years, think Jurassic Park. I imagine several different kinds of dinosaurs, from roving packs of diminutive but viscous carnivores, fast and hard to hit, to lumbering giants that require several people to take them down. Even flying Pterosaurs that bring not only the potential of death from above, but perhaps a signal to other players that they are not alone in an area. Sort of like circling buzzards.
[QUOTE=Cadenza;44029102]I hope you got the idea behind early access and 'testers influence' in game development! ;) If my opinion isn't worth a cent the devs should screw their 30% finished game to hell.
Luckily, they care about the overall noise and implementing features requested by the community![/QUOTE]
Everyones opinion matters. What I meant is that the poll shouldn't. Most people have no idea what the future of the game is planned to be. If an official statement came out from the devs that they're aiming for a post apocalyptic theme then I bet you, dinosaurs wouldn't be winning. The only reason they are is because a lot of people are focusing on the caveman aspects and see it taking that turn.
At the end of the day if something won the poll that Garry and the team don't want to do, they shouldn't do it. Not only is it gonna make them unhappy but it will turn out crap cos their heart won't be in it. I'm just saying that whatever the results if the poll the devs should ignore it and go with their gut. Doesn't mean u can't still share your ideas and opinions.
Well if Garry removed zombies because he didn't want to be called a "zombie survival" then I see him wanting to remove dinos at one point because the game is called "Jurassic Park". I can see dinos being effective if we rework the entire game (map, gear, loot, everything) and make it more pre-historic, but with the theme we are riding with now to me mutants or wildlife seem to be the only option.
[QUOTE=KevinnTCG;44029593]Well if Garry removed zombies because he didn't want to be called a "zombie survival" then I see him wanting to remove dinos at one point because the game is called "Jurassic Park". I can see dinos being effective if we rework the entire game (map, gear, loot, everything) and make it more pre-historic, but with the theme we are riding with now to me mutants or wildlife seem to be the only option.[/QUOTE]
Good point. I would like it if it went prehistoric or Jurrasic Park-ish. Either way, i think the game has a pretty solid foundation and im looking forward to the changes be they Dinos or Mutants or Drugged up geriatric old folks home escapees that viciously murder anyone on their lawn.
[B]Garry Please Read This Post!!
[/B]Bigfoot needs to be roaming the woods, squashing noobs with ease and carrying high value loot. He should be very hard to kill, and faster than players. There should only be 1 Bigfoot on a server at a time, when he gets killed, he respawns in the woods somewhere else. Just make him look like a giant Chewbacca. Also, let me get a job sir, I always have the best Ideas of all times.
Thank you, I hope you put him in!
[QUOTE=KevinnTCG;44029593]Well if Garry removed zombies because he didn't want to be called a "zombie survival" then I see him wanting to remove dinos at one point because the game is called "Jurassic Park". I can see dinos being effective if we rework the entire game (map, gear, loot, everything) and make it more pre-historic, but with the theme we are riding with now to me mutants or wildlife seem to be the only option.[/QUOTE]
The map we are playing on will be deleted after the Devs decide the theme this map wont be expanded devs confirmed this . They will rework almost evrything once they got the theme.
We are right now playing a game that does not exist yet basicaly lol
Dinosaurs, seriously?
[QUOTE=Zoliru;44029967]The map we are playing on will be deleted after the Devs decide the theme this map wont be expanded devs confirmed this . They will rework almost evrything once they got the theme.
We are right now playing a game that does not exist yet basicaly lol[/QUOTE]
Exactly, this is what I've been saying for ages. All those people basing their idea on what's already in the map need to be a bit more open minded. Just because we have rad zones in the test map doesn't mean we will in the final.
For all we know it could be FULL of post apocalyptic style buildings. Or it could the be a completely blank canvas with no signs of earlier human life at all.
We just don't know until the devs give us more of a theme.
Rust is an alpha at the moment, but I think the present setting is a good one, and I think that many people would agree with me, considering the success of the game.
I have previously posted that human or mutated animal AI would work. Myths and Dinos just change the genre into something unrealistic, and Robots and aliens trash the game into a rubbish Sci-Fi genre (even Dinos > Aliens EVERY TIME). However, I could concede that at least dinos actually existed (unlike Aliens (we don't know/have never met for you "they could exist out there!!" people) and mythical creatures) so would keep the realism at the level required for a good survival game like rust.
The odd Dinosaur as a boss monster (think of a better realistic boss monster that isn't a tank or something), I could live with, but I would not give it my support. Dinos are kind of natural, so I am willing to concede slightly on this point (that's not to say i'd actively support dinos, just i'd rather the odd Dino than some Alien spaceships rolling out), but Mythical/Alien/Robots are simply NO . They don't fit in with the present genre.
So currently it is Mutant AI/Human AI (tribes, bandits) > Mutant Humans/Zombies/military (Dayz basically) > Dinos > Mythological > Robots > aliens
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[QUOTE=Stewie.D;44030014]Exactly, this is what I've been saying for ages. All those people basing their idea on what's already in the map need to be a bit more open minded. Just because we have rad zones in the test map doesn't mean we will in the final.
For all we know it could be FULL of post apocalyptic style buildings. Or it could the be a completely blank canvas with no signs of earlier human life at all.
We just don't know until the devs give us more of a theme.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, true the map could change, but the Map at the moment works. Don't fix it if it ain't broken. People seem to like the current genre, so that's why their AI enemies are consistent with it. If you want to turn this game on its head, fine, but don't go complaining about "closed-minded" people who simply want to keep the game they like.
[QUOTE=Danifer;44028308]If dinos get in just buy rights from Jurassic park and rename the game to Jurassic park simulator[/QUOTE]
Military would just make this another COD knockoff, so might as well just buy the rights from them if you go with your logic.
Do you not realize how wrong Jurassic Park got dinosaurs? First off, the name should have been Cretaceous Park because they're pretty much all from that time period. Second, half the dinos were the wrong size or should have had feathers, not scales. Its possible to do classic-style dinosaur creatures as mutants of reptiles near the radiation zones, but I think it'd be more fun to do realistic feathered dinos that aren't your typical T-Rex, Velociraptor, or Triceratops. As I said in my post, it would be best to do a composite of different mutated animals and non-mutated animals. When you think radiation=mutant people you are limiting yourself by leaving out the rest of the ecosystem that could have been affected by the radiation. Of course, this is assuming they leave in the radiation zones. I hope they do because its part of what made this a unique game.
It's not a matter of not fixing what ain't broken. The current map is a test map, it will be replaced .. FACT, there's no two ways about it.
I know people like the game how it is but further down the line it doesn't really work. It will have to focus on one of the many small themes already in the game. In a post apocalyptic situation you wouldn't be running around bashing rocks together and crafting "caveman" style tools. When an official map is released, the game will have to follow a more solid route.
It should be Mutant bandits, & Military, bandits and military can patrol the land and they both fight and patrol the land, raid, loot and kill.
[QUOTE=Stewie.D;44030429]It's not a matter of not fixing what ain't broken. The current map is a test map, it will be replaced .. FACT, there's no two ways about it.
I know people like the game how it is but further down the line it doesn't really work. It will have to focus on one of the many small themes already in the game. In a post apocalyptic situation you wouldn't be running around bashing rocks together and crafting "caveman" style tools. When an official map is released, the game will have to follow a more solid route.[/QUOTE]
Yes, I agree the final situation would be different. But people like the current map and situation, so they want to see an end result similar to the current map and situation, and will likely base their AI choices on this.
[QUOTE=.44Magnum;44030636]Yes, I agree the final situation would be different. But people like the current map and situation, so they want to see an end result similar to the current map and situation, and will likely base their AI choices on this.[/QUOTE]
according to the poll and allot of posts it seems the majority is boored of the current setting/theme.....
lets face it this whole Zombie mutant Radiation postapocalyptic thing with soilders was done like 4373585835756577 times allready. you see 1 or 2 and you saw them all.
[QUOTE=.44Magnum;44030636]Yes, I agree the final situation would be different. But people like the current map and situation, so they want to see an end result similar to the current map and situation, and will likely base their AI choices on this.[/QUOTE]
I know and that's exactly my point .. and the reason behind the split between the Dino's and the mutants. I can't base my decision on what we already have and if I had to now, I'd have to say none of them .. Because none of them fit in the current map (none of the popular choices anyway).
crazy what dinosaurs do not spoil the game
I don't see the logic in dinosaurs... Seriously who are these people that are voting for dinosaurs? What game are you playing? Are you the type that doesn't like C4 and guns?
Garry you need to make 2 game modes, Dinosaur PVE survival and military post apocalyptic PVP survival.
Half the players want a modern theme and the other half wants a prehistoric theme. So what do you do? You make both parties happy or nobody happy.
Dinosaurs... Really ? That will be the end of it for me if that happens
People in fursuits
Seriously I will probably stop planning this if dinosaurs show up, I'm not a kid. I like this anti-social hardcore game as it is, I know it's boring and pointless now, but it has so much potential for trolling and good ol' natural roleplaying.
Dinosaurs will attract the wrong crowd, and just think about it, picture Rust in 6 months being a dinosaur themed game... Will you still be playing it? When I think about it, I think that no, I would not play a dinosaur themed survival game, Dinosaurs just aren't as exciting... Rust with Dinosaurs would feel like a kids game.
So one thing that bugs me is, when people think robots they just instantly say "NOPE I DON'T WANT TRON SHIT IN MY GAME" when in reality, these robots could be rusted hulks.
They would probably look more like they have a steampunk inspired design.
I may draw up some concept art for some enemies some time if you guys would like. Reply with some ideas if you want some input before i do.
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