Is that possible, that dev's selling cheats for this game? - Rust

[QUOTE=ElvenNeko;45376828]I keep asking myself a couple of questions, but cannot find any logical answers to it, except one - developers are making and selling cheats for additional profit. Why i think so? 1) There bought so-called new anti-cheat, but they never tried to test it on the old version. But ok, it can be explained with code differences. 2) There is "lesser" cheats, that is making people get banned by vac, and bigger, that exist almost year and still undetectable. But are they? Just not long ago cheater on one of the official server said "i cheating 4 months already, and yet never get banned. And if i even will, i will spend another 18€ and keep cheating, because breaking your gameplay is so much fun". So what developers can do? They can use their free time (even few minutes when drinking tea) to log into any cheater-swarmed server and ban those people forever. Why they would want to do this? Well, there is 2 reasons - 1) To bring justice. I remember times when they said that they will have no mercy for the cheaters, so what is stopping them from punishing cheaters in their own game? Only thing could be money from cheats that they are selling. And they are fine with knowing that every cheater will play new version of rust instead of being punished for cheating. 2) To earn even more money. If cheater will buy another copy of the game - it will mean that they earned 18€ in just a few minutes, and that is very big money, if i could earn it so easy, i would keep doing it again and again, because cheaters kinda deserve it. What could be a reason to refuse bring justice AND make free money on that? Only more money from cheats sold. I am not saying that they actually doing this because i have no proof of it, but can you give me at least one logical answer on my questions? Can somebody prove me that i am wrong?[/QUOTE] Are you on fucking crack?

People who use hacks get banned at some point. Maximum time a hack can remain FUD is around 2 months. If they get banned they buy new rust copy on a new steam account.

Typical "OMG, nothing is being done about hackers!!1" thread. When you get VAC banned, you can make a new account and re-purchase games that you were VAC'ed on. Despite how your situation may be OP, some people have lots of disposable income and therefore can afford to have multiple Steam accounts with Rust on them as back up. The same display name can be used by multiple Steam accounts, which is why it looks like nothing is being done: they just use the same name that they used. I know what I said was pretty much said already. Didn't think anyone would [b]assume[/b] the cheats were actually internal.

You ever tried to check steam id?

MY LIFE IS A L... no. nice try. just no :P

Hahahahaha... HAHAHAHAHA, damn, you made me laugh so much, man. I am cheating from february, and still not banned. You wanna know why? Not, it is not because they make cheats, it's because they can do nothing about it, and believe me, they tried >_< One of my friends even got VAC ban, but quess what? He still can play on the half of the servers, official included. And you know that every 5 minute at least 10 people reporting me for cheating? That never helped and will never help you, morons. We are just too good, and you - suck, and you can bitch about it as much as you want. But i registered here to tell you the easy way how you can handle us, people using it a lot - you simply need to contact me or one of my friends in game and pay few wmz, and after this i will add you to the friend list on my cheat. For additional cost we can even sell you anything you want to have. But if you are too greedy to spend few bucks - enjoy being dead all the time, watch how i destroy all your crates trough the wall, cry a river of tears, i do not care. You always have a choice. [highlight](User was permabanned for this post ("cheater" - Orkel))[/highlight]

[QUOTE=MMMOwner;45467910]snip.[/QUOTE] I think that your brain was removed when you were a child. Go tell cool stories to someone else. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("report, don't feed the troll" - Orkel))[/highlight]

its simple, make a back door, sell game for 20$, sell cheats for 20$, its now a 40$ game, if some one has and alternate account for vac bans its now 60$ game. the creators would make a killing profiting off the back door in there code that's obviously there. so if they are not they are getting swindled.

[QUOTE=Munix0;45469936]its simple, make a back door, sell game for 20$, sell cheats for 20$, its now a 40$ game, if some one has and alternate account for vac bans its now 60$ game. the creators would make a killing profiting off the back door in there code that's obviously there. so if they are not they are getting swindled.[/QUOTE] Kind of a silly argument -- I mean wouldn't that also kill the initial sales? The sales by recommendations from friends? Sure, you could argue a single person could put 60$ into it, but if it was as bad as that I wouldn't have recommended it to my friends and they wouldn't have an an additional 100$ to throw around If you want to bring up alternative vac ban accounts, wouldn't it be better to sanitize the hacks they release every so often so that they have to re-buy the game a third or fourth time to further increase their income if that was their motivation? I dunno why I'm much of any thought into this topic it's stupid and bogus but maybe someone will realize something from this post but w/e

[QUOTE=ElvenNeko;45376828]I keep asking myself a couple of questions, but cannot find any logical answers to it, except one - developers are making and selling cheats for additional profit. Why i think so? 1) There bought so-called new anti-cheat, but they never tried to test it on the old version. But ok, it can be explained with code differences. 2) There is "lesser" cheats, that is making people get banned by vac, and bigger, that exist almost year and still undetectable. But are they? Just not long ago cheater on one of the official server said "i cheating 4 months already, and yet never get banned. And if i even will, i will spend another 18€ and keep cheating, because breaking your gameplay is so much fun". So what developers can do? They can use their free time (even few minutes when drinking tea) to log into any cheater-swarmed server and ban those people forever. Why they would want to do this? Well, there is 2 reasons - 1) To bring justice. I remember times when they said that they will have no mercy for the cheaters, so what is stopping them from punishing cheaters in their own game? Only thing could be money from cheats that they are selling. And they are fine with knowing that every cheater will play new version of rust instead of being punished for cheating. 2) To earn even more money. If cheater will buy another copy of the game - it will mean that they earned 18€ in just a few minutes, and that is very big money, if i could earn it so easy, i would keep doing it again and again, because cheaters kinda deserve it. What could be a reason to refuse bring justice AND make free money on that? Only more money from cheats sold. I am not saying that they actually doing this because i have no proof of it, [U][B]but can you give me at least one logical answer[/B][/U] on my questions? Can somebody prove me that i am wrong?[/QUOTE] Yes, Your an idiot. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Flaming / Being rude" - Swebonny))[/highlight]

[QUOTE]Kind of a silly argument -- I mean wouldn't that also kill the initial sales?[/QUOTE] I dont know. You tell me - does it ruining sails? Developers are millioners. Yes, we do not know for sure if they make cheats or not, but effect is the same anyway - game overflown by cheaters. For the last 2 weeks i meet players who do not cheat no more then 10 times, and all houses i blow - was belong to the cheaters. Currently there are more cheaters then players. So, you tell me - did it hurt the sails? Even with alpha like this they already made millions. And if they will make few more on cheats - nobody will even know, we only can quess.

Dude, seriously, lay of the crack...that shizzle will kill you...and clearly you smoke ALOT of crack.

[QUOTE=ElvenNeko;45487741]I dont know. You tell me - does it ruining sails? Developers are millioners. Yes, we do not know for sure if they make cheats or not, but effect is the same anyway - game overflown by cheaters. For the last 2 weeks i meet players who do not cheat no more then 10 times, and all houses i blow - was belong to the cheaters. Currently there are more cheaters then players. So, you tell me - did it hurt the sails? Even with alpha like this they already made millions. And if they will make few more on cheats - nobody will even know, we only can quess.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty sure no sails will be harmed if that's happening but saying there are more cheaters than players proves the fact that you are that type of player that yells "hacks" every time someone is better than him . Even if what you said is right there are still many good servers out there to play on where you barely meet any cheaters and if u do they are being dealt with fast.

Why are people still responding to this? The thread creator was banned, making further discussion completely irrelevant and unnecessary.

[QUOTE]saying there are more cheaters than players proves the fact that you are that type of player that yells "hacks" every time someone is better than him[/QUOTE] Did you ever played on official server without admins to say that? I doubt it. When every man you see just flies around, and you are only one who is walking - yes, sure, problem is in me. And now they wiped servers becuse "of lot of requests about it". I wonder - did anyone in this forum asked for a wipe? Anyone? Because the only kind of people who will benefit from wipe - is cheaters. Before i was throwing out 1 or 2 cheaters from server every week because i had a big house that nobody can raid and a lots of resourses, so i spend 1 or 2 days to track them by the tail of bodies, and then blow them the hell out before they build big enough house. And as far as the was cheating, in every house i found tons of resourses, ammo and guns, that allowed me to keep blowing new cheaters. But now, when all got the fresh start there will be nobody who can stop cheater from expanding. So maybe all those people who wanted to wipe servers without administration on it - is cheaters, who does not like when someone resist to their rule? And someone "helped" them a bit, arranging official server wipe...

[QUOTE=ElvenNeko;45494682]Did you ever played on official server without admins to say that? I doubt it. When every man you see just flies around, and you are only one who is walking - yes, sure, problem is in me. And now they wiped servers becuse "of lot of requests about it". I wonder - did anyone in this forum asked for a wipe? Anyone? Because the only kind of people who will benefit from wipe - is cheaters. Before i was throwing out 1 or 2 cheaters from server every week because i had a big house that nobody can raid and a lots of resourses, so i spend 1 or 2 days to track them by the tail of bodies, and then blow them the hell out before they build big enough house. And as far as the was cheating, in every house i found tons of resourses, ammo and guns, that allowed me to keep blowing new cheaters. But now, when all got the fresh start there will be nobody who can stop cheater from expanding. So maybe all those people who wanted to wipe servers without administration on it - is cheaters, who does not like when someone resist to their rule? And someone "helped" them a bit, arranging official server wipe...[/QUOTE] 1#Since there is a Sleeping bag glitch there is no safe base, a bagger with a big amount of time will raid you effortless 2#You know that out there are player which like wipes to start a new round? 3#The Official Servers are lagging like hell if they "stay alive" too long

Officials are getting clogged , they are laggy even after wipes and there's no admin to take care of things(and don't bring the abusive admins bs because there are good admins out there too you just need to waste a few minutes of your life to find it) and where's the fun in camping your "huge" base instead of having some real action ? wipes bring the fun , it gets boring if it's unwiped , in about 2 weeks it's full of huge buildings and mostly everybody is standing on them trying to bolt each other , there's no fun into that . This isn't the only place where people post ,they might've asked on twitter on playrust and so on.

This is always possible. In fact, this happened in a game called Silkroad in which the company that owned the game only banned people from botting (the hack used there) if they didn't have any real money currency in game. If you bought anything, you weren't banned. However, I don't think it's the case here. You see, any kind of hacks/cheats such as the ones we see people using on Rust (ESP, aimbot, etc) make the players dislike the game and stop playing it. So, if you have a game that is known for having a lotta cheaters, less people will play. So, devs making cheats for the game is like shooting their own feet. Just check WarZ and many other games full of hackers, people just stop playing and the game dies within months.

[QUOTE=ElvenNeko;45494682]Did you ever played on official server without admins to say that? I doubt it. When every man you see just flies around, and you are only one who is walking - yes, sure, problem is in me. And now they wiped servers becuse "of lot of requests about it". I wonder - did anyone in this forum asked for a wipe? Anyone? Because the only kind of people who will benefit from wipe - is cheaters. Before i was throwing out 1 or 2 cheaters from server every week because i had a big house that nobody can raid and a lots of resourses, so i spend 1 or 2 days to track them by the tail of bodies, and then blow them the hell out before they build big enough house. And as far as the was cheating, in every house i found tons of resourses, ammo and guns, that allowed me to keep blowing new cheaters. But now, when all got the fresh start there will be nobody who can stop cheater from expanding. So maybe all those people who wanted to wipe servers without administration on it - is cheaters, who does not like when someone resist to their rule? And someone "helped" them a bit, arranging official server wipe...[/QUOTE] Holy fuck, you've been here since January and never saw one thread begging for the official servers to be wiped? They popped up several times a day.

[QUOTE]Since there is a Sleeping bag glitch there is no safe base, a bagger with a big amount of time will raid you effortless[/QUOTE] No, because - 1) You cannot place anything inside buildings even if you remove walls. Game will say that you cannot place it here, and you will need really good cheats to do it. I spoke with several cheater and all of them confirmed it, also you can check youtube vids. 2) Even if you remove walls, every removed wall will lag. That's why i big such a big house - people will spend hours on trying to get inside at least few rooms, that's why i use to find sleepers inside my small houses, but in big bases - never. [QUOTE]wipes bring the fun , it gets boring if it's unwiped[/QUOTE] On official server wipe means that you will not have explosives, for example, because each airdrop will be looted by cheaters, and having an explosive was kinda very rare thing amongst simple players. Also it means that your bases will be raided and your stuff will be always stolen, even without c4 (why - read above).