Very important information about hacking that everyone, including Garry should know! - Rust

i could write this really long rage post (im also an admin) but lets keep it short and stick with solutions instead of problems. dont be surprised now... it could all be solved wit this: ADMIN SPECTATOR MODE

Effective admin and players that report suspicious behaviour in an effective manner(not spamming in chat) are twenty times better than an anticheat, there will always be someone that you can't catch with software detection, something that admins can. This should hopefully mean that some of the well respected servers that may be empty currently will become a bit more popular, there are far too many servers where admins expect a busy server and then go about the administration in completely the wrong way, it's their money but don't sit there wondering what's going on when your server is dead.

[QUOTE=LordCrypto;44154219]providing cheats to facepunch studios forum games on face punch is a permabannable offense so no it isn't a gray area[/QUOTE] Idc if OP gets banned. The gray area lies in If he/she is actually helping or hurting. It can go both ways depending on who looks at it and if something is ever done. If we have a bunch of hackers on the server because of this and nothing is done from it, guess what, I lay that on the hands of Gary and his team. Again this is an Alpha and nowhere close to being finished. Many of the problems will be solved when the time comes.

Slightly off-topic but not: What is the point to hacking in Rust? Can anyone explain that to me? It's not like you can make real world money on the game, unlike Diablo 3. So, what exactly is the point? Just to cause grief to other people? Is that really all there is to it? Why do people spend money on hacks, why do developers waste their time building hacks? It just makes no sense to me at all.

[QUOTE=AK42;44161401]Slightly off-topic but not: What is the point to hacking in Rust? Can anyone explain that to me? It's not like you can make real world money on the game, unlike Diablo 3. So, what exactly is the point? Just to cause grief to other people? Is that really all there is to it? Why do people spend money on hacks, why do developers waste their time building hacks? It just makes no sense to me at all.[/QUOTE] Why do people spend time building hacks? -Because there is money involved. Why do people buy hacks? -Because it makes games Easy Mode and the people who do this are tired of a game, real bored of a game, a dick, or an idiot.

[QUOTE=Superlander;44159442]Effective admin and players that report suspicious behaviour in an effective manner(not spamming in chat) are twenty times better than an anticheat, there will always be someone that you can't catch with software detection, something that admins can. This should hopefully mean that some of the well respected servers that may be empty currently will become a bit more popular, there are far too many servers where admins expect a busy server and then go about the administration in completely the wrong way, it's their money but don't sit there wondering what's going on when your server is dead.[/QUOTE] the chance of a false positive is very high with that, and proof could be faked

[QUOTE=Rustcheater;44151725]Very important information about hacking that everyone, including Garry should know: I was hacking and got VAC BAN. But I did a profound research on the thing, bought all the hacks avaiable, test and re-test all of them, including the free ones like Oxidizer, Dizzy and Jacked. The begining: I had a server and for time it was good but then the hacker came, and they started doing a lot of crap stuff, stealing and bringing total chaos to my server. Me as a admin got mad trying to control them, but as you guys should know the tools we have as a admin in Rust are weak. If you as a admin see a guy flying over your head, you can't see his name, you can't do anything except if the hack kills you and you find out his name. Smart hackers won't do that. As a hacker you have ESP - you can see every player, admin (invisible included), boxes, ores, woodpiles, etc 500 miles away! So if a hacker is using ESP, you as a admin can't come close to him invisible to check him, he will know you are there. The point: this is a Garry's Rust developers failure, doors are too wide open for hackers. Ok enought about begining, about the hacks: Unknowcheats are for free cheats and if you want to get a fast VAC BAN go for it, Ilikecheats are crap, really, it's a crap work, can't believe they charge for that. But the real one, the big problem is ArtificialAiming. This guys are dangerous, they are really fast developing the hacks, updating then after steam or Rust updates the client. It's impressive they can update their client very fast in some hours after the update, and no, you wont get cheatpunch and hadly will get a VAC BAN, and that's the problem, this guys are ruining the game cause Facepunch or VAC BAN wont get them and lots of people are joining them. I'm here to help Garry I have all the info, all the software, including Helios AA client, that I can upload to you for testing or anything you need. Add me on skype for info I'll help the way I can: quantec4444[/QUOTE] OP Summary in 1 sentence: Please buy my hack.

[QUOTE=Trans_LFE;44162450]Why do people spend time building hacks? -Because there is money involved. Why do people buy hacks? -Because it makes games Easy Mode and the people who do this are tired of a game, real bored of a game, a dick, or an idiot.[/QUOTE] You left out that they want instant gratification, and/or they are bad at the game and want to win. I think most are bad and want to win. Insert some comment about kids getting participation trophies being the reason for this problem.

[QUOTE=TexRob;44162588]You left out that they want instant gratification, and/or they are bad at the game and want to win. I think most are bad and want to win. Insert some comment about kids getting participation trophies being the reason for this problem.[/QUOTE] Yeah I can understand that for other games, but right now there is no way to 'win' in Rust. Personally, i think it is a disease of the spirit. Some people get rankled at the idea of having to play fair, it is just not in their nature to do so. I also think that a lot of the hackers out there get a thrill from being able to piss off a lot of honest, hard-playing people.