[QUOTE=InsaneParrot;43114731]They are all private servers. Are you just asking me to not play the game? It's not that I don't like it, it's that they are killing the game overall. Even if there was 1 official server, the private servers would always be an option.[/QUOTE]
Then ask for some official servers, and not for the removing of private, I can see that no official servers is a problem, but that is Garrys doing, not the persons who host private servers.
[QUOTE=PAL;43114777]Then ask for some official servers, and not for the removing of private.
You play the game how you like it, and I play the game how I like it.[/QUOTE]
See the problem is the way you like to play it has an effect on how i like to play it. You should be playing the game for the game, not so you can be an admin and rule your server population of 2. It doesn't work for a game like Rust.
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[QUOTE=Daniel Munoz;43114793]You should be playing the game for the game, not so you can be an admin and rule your server population of 2. It doesn't work for a game like Rust.[/QUOTE]
Who are you to decide what other people should do, go play the game the way you like it, and leave me playing it how I want.
[QUOTE=Daniel Munoz;43114747]Not to mention the population is spread so thin because of all the servers that even playing on an official one isn't the same anymore. It affects everyone.[/QUOTE]
Ohh, most people don't like playing on the servers you like, then you think they should be forced to, cool.
You cannot rent servers out, then shut them off after people have paid for them. There would be a revolt...
[QUOTE=PAL;43114777]Then ask for some official servers, and not for the removing of private, I can see that no official servers is a problem, but that is Garrys doing, not the persons who host private servers.[/QUOTE]
Read the second part of my post.
[QUOTE=InsaneParrot;43114731][B]Even if there was 1 official server, the private servers would always be an option.[/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=PAL;43114824]Who are you to decide what other people should do, go play the game the way you like it, and leave me playing it how I want.[/QUOTE]
It's funny how you cut out the part about how the way you play has an effect on the way i play. I the population who has been negatively affected by this is much higher as you can see by the poll. Why should Rust appeal to the much lower population of server admins when so many people have an issue with this. I hope they choose to do whats best for the game instead of what's best for their pockets.
[QUOTE=smkymtnman;43114871]You cannot rent servers out, then shut them off after people have paid for them. There would be a revolt...[/QUOTE]
The idea was to let all of their rented time run out, then close the server.
[QUOTE=smkymtnman;43114871]You cannot rent servers out, then shut them off after people have paid for them. There would be a revolt...[/QUOTE]
They pay for a month. After the month is over they stop the service. Nothing wrong with that.
[QUOTE=InsaneParrot;43114872]Read the second part of my post.[/QUOTE]
Sry, I missed that, I too think there should be official servers, but private servers has to be an option too.
Once all these 13-year old kids stop giving shitty hosting company's such as Ideal Hosting money payed with mom's credit card there will be a lot less private servers. Also with steam release the game might actually have more than 3 populated servers again.
All the people paying for the servers would get mad because of losing their ability to do so, and all the regulars would get mad because their server is gone. I'm tellin ya folks, wait until after the Steam launch. Please. A few weeks after that if you still think we have too many servers I might agree but launching on Steam, then having the game constantly for sale is really gonna change the player base in drastic ways. Tons of mainstream PC players haven't even heard of this game yet...
When the steam version is released, then there will be 10-20 populated servers? Doesn't mean that this problem is fixed. The problem is that there is no community anymore, it's boring to play on any server because if things go south I have another server with a bunch of stuff on to play with. I play on multiple different servers a day and never get to get as set up as I used to get. You never get to know people that live near you, you never get to truly hate your enemies. There's no way the experiences I had when there was only one server can possible happen with private servers scattered everywhere.
It's just a pain in the ass overall. Why are people defending it so much, when the game opens up on steam people will want more servers and i doubt any major improvement will be seen.
totally agree.
But in my opinion retarded admins ruined the privat server idea. Its just like in any other game that got a lot/easy Admin Stuff to do to boost your our your friends play. But to be fair i saw Servers with 10-15 People were the Admins acted really good and tryed all they could to keep dupers/exploiters and other griefing shit out of the server. Too bad this servers are underpopulated most of the time :/
This game used to be so much more. so brilliantly more.
I remember my first days of rust. jeez it was hard, i was scared of my own shadow for the first day or two when i played this game.
Within my first few hours of playing i quickly learned that theese people are NOT my friends, but my foes. i must fight for what i want. i cannot trade as i was thinking at first.
I learned to become paranoid, never trust anyone, use the dark as my ally, and if it was me or the other naked guy, it had to be myself!, i had to backstab him that time.. i had to.. or i would starve!..
this game was so great. you never knew when danger was just around the corner!.
Now... i dont even bother.. i played for about 5 days on the private servers.. on about 4 different ones.. now i havent set foot in the world of rust in a few weeks.. its just not the same..
The public servers are not as crowded. the private servers have 10-30 regular players. and usually some admin with the biggest fucking metal base ever. giving soooo much stuff to his friends.. flying around.. blowing my house up... shooting at me... in godmode... well thats not the rust experience!.
PRIVATE SERVERS RUINED RUST! - I hope to someday return, as i hope rust does.
[QUOTE=SUN_GladiatoR;43113348]Need to add vote system for private servers and filter by most voted servers. So players can see what servers are trusted.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=CHECKsn;43114262]I think you just have to make a filter option in server selection:
Official Servers / Private Servers
This way the official servers will rise in population again thats for sure.[/QUOTE]
All seem like good ideas. We need new players to be able to tell which servers are trusted.
[QUOTE=zhortew;43115412]This game used to be so much more. so brilliantly more.
I remember my first days of rust. jeez it was hard, i was scared of my own shadow for the first day or two when i played this game.
Within my first few hours of playing i quickly learned that theese people are NOT my friends, but my foes. i must fight for what i want. i cannot trade as i was thinking at first.
I learned to become paranoid, never trust anyone, use the dark as my ally, and if it was me or the other naked guy, it had to be myself!, i had to backstab him that time.. i had to.. or i would starve!..
this game was so great. you never knew when danger was just around the corner!.
Now... i dont even bother.. i played for about 5 days on the private servers.. on about 4 different ones.. now i havent set foot in the world of rust in a few weeks.. its just not the same..
The public servers are not as crowded. the private servers have 10-30 regular players. and usually some admin with the biggest fucking metal base ever. giving soooo much stuff to his friends.. flying around.. blowing my house up... shooting at me... in godmode... well thats not the rust experience!.
PRIVATE SERVERS RUINED RUST! - I hope to someday return, as i hope rust does.[/QUOTE]
Thank you. Private servers are killing Rust. The only way to fix the problem is to have them COMPLETELY removed.
Or also make that players can connect on private server by invitation (white list). So new players wont connect to server where admin abusing rights to shit on new players. In this case players wont be "surprised" by this stupid feature and will like the game instead of deleting it...
In my personal opinion, i think there should be "private" servers, like in gmod, some servers are bad, but some servers are actually good. It would be a waste if there were only offical servers, its also fun to host a community server. (I don't have any rust server) and i hope garry will release the dedicated server tool soon, so i can start myself a server.
I don't get it.
Why are there always those people who want to force their way of playing onto other people in these kind of games? (Dayz, WarZ, Nether, now Rust)
I understand those of you who want official servers back, but why REMOVE private ones?
To force people to play on big crowded servers? To have a lot of easy preys?
Not everyone want official/crowded servers ONLY.
I get that you want crowded servers with no admin abuse, but that could be fixed by either finding a server without admin abuse and get people to join it or adding official servers back.
You don't really have to remove the private servers in the process of adding official servers back, it would not make any sense in doing that, really pointless.
Not removed, but a new tab for official servers.
Cast your vote for that [URL="http://facepunch.com/showthread.php?t=1331834"]here[/URL]
[QUOTE=ErikPutz;43115743]I don't get it.
Why are there always those people who want to force their way of playing onto other people in these kind of games? (Dayz, WarZ, Nether, now Rust)
I understand those of you who want official servers back, but why REMOVE private ones?
To force people to play on big crowded servers? To have a lot of easy preys?
Not everyone want official/crowded servers ONLY.
I get that you want crowded servers with no admin abuse, but that could be fixed by either finding a server without admin abuse and get people to join it or adding official servers back.
You don't really have to remove the private servers in the process of adding official servers back, it would not make any sense in doing that, really pointless.[/QUOTE]
I'm guessing you never played when it was just official servers only. It was much more fun. Crowding could easily be fixed (and will) by opening the rest of the map. They have to remove them.
[QUOTE=InsaneParrot;43116075]I'm guessing you never played when it was just official servers only. It was much more fun. [B]Crowding could easily be fixed (and will) by opening the rest of the map[/B]. They have to remove them.[/QUOTE]
Once helis comes out the whole map will surely open up.
Better and well geared players would fly somewhere distant and enclosed to build their new base away from prying eyes.
I have to agree with the masses here, Private Server are ruining the game. There is simply WAY TOO MANY of them.
When renting a server became an option, we were told they were going to be in a very limited number. Which would of been fine if that was true. My friends and I all chipped in and got a server, because we actually thought they were gonna be limited. But alas they weren't and now we have an over saturation of servers and not enough players playing to fill more then a couple of them.
This game was great when there was only a few official servers. You knew who people were, where groups built, who to mess with, who not to mess with, what areas were safe to go to at what times. You could build actual rivalries with other groups.
If server rental would of truly stayed limited and only a dozen or two dozen servers total been made available, that would of been fine. Sure there would of been a few with lower population and I realize some people like that, but for the most part, majority of the servers would of remained at a size that was always playable.
The way the game stands now, it's not nearly as fun as it use to be. You struggle to find a server worth staying on or finding one that can actually keep a steady population.
too many private servers!! i used to play rust when there were only 3 or 4. i dont care if there are some private servers as long as there are at least some official ones (and those need to be marked as official)
if there is a tab for privat and a tab for official servers in the server list menu... i am ok with that.
but at the moment i have to vote for private servers to be removed. i tried 10 servers and on everyone i noticed admin abuse or some little kiddo admin who wasnt capable of leading a server. i dont mind if there are only 10 servers with 5k slots each as long as they are official... thats my opinion
Too many servers......the official are the best
[QUOTE=Daniel Munoz;43115524]Thank you. Private servers are killing Rust. The only way to fix the problem is to have them COMPLETELY removed.[/QUOTE]
Why do you keep nagging about private servers?
Not everyone has the same opinion. Just because you, mr iwantwhateverithinkisbest, like official server, doesn't means that EVERYONE likes it.
There are official servers, go play on them.
What's the difference between 'official' and 'private' servers?
NOTHING.
When Rust server files are released, there'll be more servers, and better servers.
There are abusive admins, yes, but who's keeping you there? You're free to join other servers.
Quit nagging and deal with the private servers.
[QUOTE=InsaneParrot;43116075]I'm guessing you never played when it was just official servers only. It was much more fun. Crowding could easily be fixed (and will) by opening the rest of the map. They have to remove them.[/QUOTE]
The current amount of servers is not even a problem. Stop trying to make it into a problem.
I don't mind them adding official servers again but there's absolutely no sense in removing the private ones.
They are not ruining the game what so ever.
If you wanna play high populated servers just join the one with most players on and stick to playing that one, then invite everyone else who whine about "hurr private servers ruin dis gaem" and the problem is solved.
If people truly would want to play high pop servers they would not be as spread out as they are.
Also, the amount of servers compared to copies of the game sold is low - medium.
Which mean not enough people are playing the game currently.
So the real problem is either in the game, gameplay or the community/the players (since most people are not playing it), not in the amount of servers, as people do not stop playing a game because there are "too many servers".
If you are saying the private servers are not supporting enough players at the same time, then having official servers that does support a good amount of players at the same time would fix this.
So no, private servers are not ruining anything.
Not enough people playing the game might ruin the experience for some people, but removing most of the servers to force everyone to play together would not fix anything, it would only hurt everyone else.
And in this case, keeping it the way it is, is hurting less people than forcing everyone to play together.
If you would force everyone to play on the same servers then those who wish to play on lower pop servers would just quit the game, while right now those who want high pop servers can still join the servers with most players on.
It might not be "enough" players for some but the amount wont increase by not playing the game.
[QUOTE=panicx72;43117698]Why do you keep nagging about private servers?
Not everyone has the same opinion. Just because you, mr iwantwhateverithinkisbest, like official server, doesn't means that EVERYONE likes it.
There are official servers, go play on them.
What's the difference between 'official' and 'private' servers?
NOTHING.
When Rust server files are released, there'll be more servers, and better servers.
There are abusive admins, yes, but who's keeping you there? You're free to join other servers.
Quit nagging and deal with the private servers.[/QUOTE]
Oh what you're mad because people want to take away your admin powers and your crosshair overlay (you seriously think thats not cheating? The things you come up with amaze me). I don't think im nagging about anything, you see, the amount of people that actually think its an issue to the point where they feel it needs to be removed doubles the amount of people who don't. So i don't think im nagging, in fact, i think you're nagging, no, you're bitching because people disagree with your opinion. There is a difference, in fact you stated one yourself two lines down. So before you get the balls to write up some post that contradicts itself at least know what the fuck you're talking about. Don't even bother writing a response to this because there is nothing to say. Numbers are numbers and you can't deny that, now please shut up keep it to yourself.
Also aren't you the one who said "Because people can't host servers themselves.
Current servers are being run on mediocre hardware, and causes lag/instability everywhere."
You are absolutely atrocious at making an argument. Get off my thread before you embarrass yourself some more.
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