Who wants private servers removed? - Rust

[QUOTE=Daniel Munoz;43118502]Oh what you're mad because people want to take away your admin powers and your crosshair overlay (you seriously think thats not cheating? The things you come up with amaze me). I don't think im nagging about anything, you see, the amount of people that actually think its an issue to the point where they feel it needs to be removed doubles the amount of people who don't. So i don't think im nagging, in fact, i think you're nagging, no, you're bitching because people disagree with your opinion. There is a difference, in fact you stated one yourself two lines down. So before you get the balls to write up some post that contradicts itself at least know what the fuck you're talking about. Don't even bother writing a response to this because there is nothing to say. Numbers are numbers and you can't deny that, now please shut up keep it to yourself. Also aren't you the one who said "Because people can't host servers themselves. Current servers are being run on mediocre hardware, and causes lag/instability everywhere." You are absolutely atrocious at making an argument. Get off my thread before you embarrass yourself some more.[/QUOTE] Yea, I usually get mad at facepunch topics. What admin powers do you mean? I always tought I had none.. As for the overlay, works like a charm. You're the one bitching in this thread about private servers. Wanna bet they will stay? Just because the one option has more votes than the other doesn't means it is what EVERYONE thinks. We got these simple souls QQing on FP about private servers, and the other people are actually playing right now, enjoying private servers. Now, grab a tissue. Private servers won't go away. Love you.

[QUOTE=panicx72;43118596]Yea, I usually get mad at facepunch topics. What admin powers do you mean? I always tought I had none.. As for the overlay, works like a charm. You're the one bitching in this thread about private servers. Wanna bet they will stay? Just because the one option has more votes than the other doesn't means it is what EVERYONE thinks. We got these simple souls QQing on FP about private servers, and the other people are actually playing right now, enjoying private servers. Now, grab a tissue. Private servers won't go away. Love you.[/QUOTE] You're a complete idiot. You know why they'll stay? Because they are making money. Not because you want them too. I was just assuming you were an admin but i am by no means surprised. Obviously it is not what everyone thinks. You think if it ran like that anything would get done? Sorry guys fred doesn't want to have people in the game lets replace them with dinosaurs. What the actual fuck is wrong with you? Men lie. Woman lie. Numbers don't lie. People for the most part, do not like private servers, of course you like it, you are an admin, you are bias, you are an idiot. You really think anyone is going to listen to a cheater? Fuck off. Lmao. I am incapable of wasting another moment on you. Post away panicx72! No one will give a shit. You will just manage to embarrass yourself some more. If thats even possible.

[QUOTE=Daniel Munoz;43118667]You're a complete idiot. You know why they'll stay? Because they are making money. Not because you want them too. I was just assuming you were an admin but i am by no means surprised. Obviously it is not what everyone thinks. You think if it ran like that anything would get done? Sorry guys fred doesn't want to have people in the game lets replace them with dinosaurs. What the actual fuck is wrong with you? Men lie. Woman lie. Numbers don't lie. People for the most part, do not like private servers, of course you like it, you are an admin, you are bias, you are an idiot. You really think anyone is going to listen to a cheater? Fuck off. Lmao. I am incapable of wasting another moment on you. Post away panicx72! No one will give a shit. You will just manage to embarrass yourself some more. If thats even possible.[/QUOTE] I am wondering: Why are you getting so upset regarding this topic, kind sir?

[QUOTE=panicx72;43118726]I am wondering: Why are you getting so upset regarding this topic, kind sir?[/QUOTE] I am not upset, i am just surprised how ignorant people can be. The fact that, that is all you could come up with shows you have no argument. You might as well have said "You mad bro?". How sad. Please get off my thread, you have nothing useful to say. Thank you.

poll doesn't lie. vast majority thinks the game isn't as fun with 100's of servers and low population on all servers compared to what it used to be.

[QUOTE=Daniel Munoz;43118765]I am not upset, i am just surprised how ignorant people can be. [/QUOTE] The irony here is staggering.

I usually don't post much, but this time I must say that I agree that the private servers are killing the game. It's the reason why i'm playing this game less than in the beginning. With the addition of private servers, you have no longer the feeling that you can make an impact in the game, because you know there are 100 other servers out there. Therefore your achievements are less valueable and that feeling makes the game less enjoyable to me. just my quick two cents.

Yes! REMOVE THEM!!!

[QUOTE=InsaneParrot;43114984]You never get to know people that live near you, you never get to truly hate your enemies. There's no way the experiences I had when there was only one server can possible happen with private servers scattered everywhere.[/QUOTE] this

They dont remove the privat servers because they make money with them. Also when the steamrelease is there are many many players that joining the game so the privatservers get fast full. My english sucks balls.

Really funny. How about you just simply favorite the official and only the good private servers? Or just you know... don't just private servers. Could it simply be that the community is bad? Should, however, be a filter for official and unofficial. As well as a filter for traffic (more players staying for longer increases this), the higher the servers traffic the higher it is on the list. I've done dedicated servers in gmod for years and can easily say there are [B]tons [/B]of reasons to have private servers. Fort wars is way easier in private, as well as events in your community, you filter who stays and who does, the rules, and everything else. As a player, you get to find servers that are far better than official because the filter out pricks. You can also better find a community that you can enjoy this way. Essential, less potential assholes, unless it's run by assholes.

[QUOTE=J!NX;43121376]Really funny. How about you just simply favorite the official and only the good private servers? Or just you know... don't just private servers. Could it simply be that the community is bad? Should, however, be a filter for official and unofficial. As well as a filter for traffic (more players staying for longer increases this), the higher the servers traffic the higher it is on the list. I've done dedicated servers in gmod for years and can easily say there are [B]tons [/B]of reasons to have private servers. Fort wars is way easier in private, as well as events in your community, you filter who stays and who does, the rules, and everything else. As a player, you get to find servers that are far better than official because the filter out pricks. You can also better find a community that you can enjoy this way. Essential, less potential assholes, unless it's run by assholes.[/QUOTE] true that.

I really hope there's official servers in every region, a lot of the private servers are becoming like Battlefield.

[QUOTE=Skeezeh;43121646]I really hope there's official servers in every region, a lot of the private servers are becoming like Battlefield.[/QUOTE] Thank you someone who see's what i see, i just hope they add Official Servers for mostly every region, and make Default server list Official servers. So much abusing / spawning / banning on private servers. Would be nice to put the trusted servers 1st, like a vote system like a +1 and -1 next to the fav button.

[QUOTE=DarkJoker212;43121479]true that.[/QUOTE] you know the community is shitty when they want to remove the one really solid feature too...

Options are always good for the player. Players just need to work together and police up the bad servers and weed them out.

I have no Problems with the private Server. Yes,their are too much of them.But some of this Server are very good.No Admin Abusing or Else. My Problem is this fucking Namechange.I have 20 Server in my History and their are 5 of them which change their Names same as i change my pants. I mean,wtf? If they still get the private Server their,make a limit and as i say,make that the Server name wont get changed.Maybe a Server Description which is changeable.But if someone like me has 20 Server and more in the history (everybody jumped around the Server to find a good one) and they all changed their names every second day,i will log on to every fucking server to check which one was my last. An Option to clear the History or the point of ,,Favourite,, which is included but useless would be nice. BTT.As some ppl said here.If an Server has no player,after a while it would closed.I cant believe that some ppl has the money to pay for a server where is no player. Their is an Idea for a Countdown. Maybe ,,Every Server has a joining rate of 10 player in a week or it will be closed,, or else

[QUOTE=J!NX;43121376]Really funny. How about you just simply favorite the official and only the good private servers? Or just you know... don't just private servers. Could it simply be that the community is bad? [/QUOTE] What's the point? The official servers are as desolate as the private ones. There's just too many of them.

[QUOTE=Famer;43122601]What's the point? The official servers are as desolate as the private ones. There's just too many of them.[/QUOTE] it's a matter of player numbers as well there's thousands of empty servers on every big game.

So, I'm not going to bother quoting because there were like about ten posts I'm replying to: What will adding more official servers help with? It will only make the problem worse by spreading the population even thinner. Rust without meeting a player every two minutes is just an easy game. You can now set up a huge base without getting raided within one day, or getting killed - Annoying, sure, but it was fun getting revenge. Now, if you're a bandit on a server, the player will just change servers - Something that you could do less in the past as bandits were on every server you moved to. If you want private servers, they should be less popular by instead of listing them, forcing you to post the IP of it. That way, servers must post on the forums, a place on which not every rust player visits.

Get rid of them asap.

I dissagree, private servers are a part of the game. They might be boring, the game might died a bit, but you can't blame Private servers for doing this, mora than disabling them we might think about adding a new category where Official/Hosted servers are listed and where Non-Official/Private server are displayed too. But saying that the game is going down because of that and even saying that you cancelled your paymente because of that is just stupid. I understand people is not happy with some features, but remember that Garry and all the Facepunch staff say: "Your paying for a game full of bugs and not yet finished". Just wait, sit and see when it gets out.

I was an early adopter of the 'cheap' hosting providers coming online. My month JUST ended a couple weeks ago. It will be interesting to see how many servers drop off the list over the next week or so as the month of service comes to an end and people don't want to pay for an empty server [editline]9th December 2013[/editline] The environment does not pose much of a challenge in this game. The challenge comes from conflict created by contention for resources -- rocks, wood, animals, real estate, airdrops, rad zones. If you allow the population to spread too thin, this contention goes away. The argument to me isn't should you allow private vs. public, it's how many should you allow total. My problem with how things were handled is, it's a lot easier to throttle up by adding servers to allow populations to settle into good numbers. By opening it up to so many providers and allowing so many servers, you've lost the opportunity to control populations. This game is more MMO than FPS -- but the server quantity is like that used to support an FPS where at any given time, you want to allow 20 people to show up and have a 20 minute battle where nothing is persisted.

lol "PEOPLE AREN'T ALL FORCED TO BE PLAYING ON THE SAME FEW SERVERS AND I DON'T LIKE IT SO THEY NEED TO BE REMOVED" Good luck getting very far in your protest.

[QUOTE=xland44;43123580]So, I'm not going to bother quoting because there were like about ten posts I'm replying to: What will adding more official servers help with? It will only make the problem worse by spreading the population even thinner. Rust without meeting a player every two minutes is just an easy game. You can now set up a huge base without getting raided within one day, or getting killed - Annoying, sure, but it was fun getting revenge. Now, if you're a bandit on a server, the player will just change servers - Something that you could do less in the past as bandits were on every server you moved to. If you want private servers, they should be less popular by instead of listing them, forcing you to post the IP of it. That way, servers must post on the forums, a place on which not every rust player visits.[/QUOTE] THIS is actually a very GOOD idea. Make the official servers only visible in game. Private servers on the forum. This would make sure only good private servers would survive too, due to commentating and servers would need their own website/plugin to show number of players currently playing.

[QUOTE=gk99;43124073]lol "PEOPLE AREN'T ALL FORCED TO BE PLAYING ON THE SAME FEW SERVERS AND I DON'T LIKE IT SO THEY NEED TO BE REMOVED" Good luck getting very far in your protest.[/QUOTE] The challenge and long term playability of the game is dependent on resource contention, something that can only happen when servers are limited, with players being 'forced' onto a number of servers that keeps populations at a level that guarantees contention. This argument might be a little too nuanced for you.

if this was true, all private server will be empty and the official ones will be like 500/500, and is not like that at all. If the game is this kinda empty now, is because the dupe and wipe each week thing, people are waiting now till the game gets better to avoid start from zero again and again and again.

So basically, everyone voting yes thinks that Garry should host official servers simply because they think its better that way. And so all those voting yes will be paying the monthly fee's associated with said servers? Its not that hard for all you people complaining about it to join a high pop server and stay there. Have some dedication in your choice rather than hop around and whine about private servers. If people really wanted to be in 100+ population servers on the tiny map they'd join the fuller servers. However you also see a lot of servers with 1 person in it. Either its the server owner or a single person that doesn't want to die every 10mins.

[QUOTE=ErikPutz;43117800]The current amount of servers is not even a problem. Stop trying to make it into a problem. I don't mind them adding official servers again but there's absolutely no sense in removing the private ones. They are not ruining the game what so ever. If you wanna play high populated servers just join the one with most players on and stick to playing that one, then invite everyone else who whine about "hurr private servers ruin dis gaem" and the problem is solved. If people truly would want to play high pop servers they would not be as spread out as they are. Also, the amount of servers compared to copies of the game sold is low - medium. Which mean not enough people are playing the game currently. So the real problem is either in the game, gameplay or the community/the players (since most people are not playing it), not in the amount of servers, as people do not stop playing a game because there are "too many servers". If you are saying the private servers are not supporting enough players at the same time, then having official servers that does support a good amount of players at the same time would fix this. So no, private servers are not ruining anything. Not enough people playing the game might ruin the experience for some people, but removing most of the servers to force everyone to play together would not fix anything, it would only hurt everyone else. And in this case, keeping it the way it is, is hurting less people than forcing everyone to play together. If you would force everyone to play on the same servers then those who wish to play on lower pop servers would just quit the game, while right now those who want high pop servers can still join the servers with most players on. It might not be "enough" players for some but the amount wont increase by not playing the game.[/QUOTE] Do you even read what I'm saying? I'm not saying that there's too few people on all of the servers, I'm saying that multiple servers is the problem. The idea that you always have a fallback server is what ruins this game. You never get immersed on one server anymore. From what I've seen, most people that are against this never experienced when there were only a few servers, so they really have no idea how much better it was. [QUOTE=ErikPutz;43117800]The current amount of servers is not even a problem. Stop trying to make it into a problem.[/QUOTE] It's a problem when 65% of the population thinks it's a problem.

I prefer to play with friends, not a bunch of immature idiots and every time I have been on a public server there are always quite a few of those. Why should I be told how to enjoy my game because some of you think there are too few players on public servers? Rather then force everyone to conform to your way of thinking, may I suggest you rent your own server and invite like minded individuals that feel server pops are too low? Also if the amount of servers was the issue then games like Dayz would never have done so well, there are always servers with at least 30+ players and that game has been out for quite awhile. I think the reason we have a low pop on many public servers is not because of too many private servers, its because for whatever reason most players that own the game are not playing at this time!