[QUOTE=Yoda1285;44195781][B]By calling it "The Safest Base Design!"[/B]
Which it seems not to be SkreamUK... I am sorry, but you asked for our thoughts and feelings and now it seems like you just want to hear the crowd cheering for you instead of taking the many well meant criticism to make your good work maybe even better. ;-)
It is the power of the crowd that drives us forward. If you want to stay with your old Volkswagen Beetle pls. I like the new Model with airbags and ESP... ;-)[/QUOTE]
I don't mind criticism, as long as its constructive. And as for my typo, everyone makes mistakes. Sleep deprivation is mine. And you lost me when you started talking about cars? A little confused.
[QUOTE=SkreamUK;44195823]I don't mind criticism, as long as its constructive. And as for my type, everyone makes mistakes. Sleep deprivation is mine. And you lost me when you started talking about cars? A little confused.[/QUOTE]
Dude. I really like your video. You have a good voice to listen to you are a n1 guy. I already told you I would like to share another advanced base design with you so you can maybe make another good video explaining that one!
And it is no 2x1x40 Tower... ;-)
[QUOTE=Yoda1285;44195870]Dude. I really like your video. You have a good voice to listen to you are a n1 guy. I already told you I would like to share another advanced base design with you so you can maybe make another good video explaining that one!
And it is no 2x1x40 Tower... ;-)[/QUOTE]
I won't be doing another video about base designs unless something game changing happens. Thank you for your kind words.
[QUOTE=Eyvn;44195622]its called constructive criticism, i subscribed to his videos awhile ago because most of it is good content[/QUOTE]
Constructive criticism should read more like "Dude, nice base and I can see the strengths but this is how I do it differently because of A, B, and C." Not..."every house a flaw. wouldn't take long to figure it out. would be safer out of metal so people can't see through the cracks."...shit that is in this thread ;)
I've used this style many times, and have found it strong enough to deter many raiders, and frustrating enough to time waste anyone that persists.
Preventing pillaring up as shown in this video is essential. But I'd make one more suggestion, and that's to make more ground level entry doorways, as there will always be a griefer that will love to wall/ceiling you in.
I've taken this to the next step by building and maintaining decoy 5x5 towers in resource rich areas, which is great to annoy the hell out of raiders when they waste c4, and find... nothing :-)
Nice video!
[QUOTE=voodoorayray;44196157]I've used this style many times, and have found it strong enough to deter many raiders, and frustrating enough to time waste anyone that persists.
Preventing pillaring up as shown in this video is essential. But I'd make one more suggestion, and that's to make more ground level entry doorways, as there will always be a griefer that will love to wall/ceiling you in.
I've taken this to the next step by building and maintaining decoy 5x5 towers in resource rich areas, which is great to annoy the hell out of raiders when they waste c4, and find... nothing :-)
Nice video![/QUOTE]
Cheers bud! :smile:
I've done A LOT of base building in my many rust hours and there are several flaws, but the idea is solid and no worse than many other plans and no matter what design you come up with, all buildings aren't currently all that secure. The idea is to make it a pain in the a$$ :)
First up though.... the single best thing you can do is to simply spread the loot out everywhere. No single loot room and none of this putting it near the top just because. People will go to greater lengths to get up there just because they expect the goodies to be there :) I know having an order in chests is preferred to make it easier to access your goodies but it also makes it easier for the raiders to get said goodies so I randomly put most stuff everywhere. Chaos is beautiful!
Also... just don't carry much loot at all :) Even if you build a massive base (unless you're a larger group)... you don't need to store 50 m4's in there. You just don't ;)
The external pillar defense on display, whilst a solid idea that I also eventually employ, it does get annoying with the current way that decay works. The easiest way to stop it from decaying is to put two more pillars, a doorway and an unlocked wooden door on it for starters. By opening and closing that door attached to that foundation, you reset the decay clock for that foundation 'network'. There are other ways to try and protect your base more but all that does cost A LOT more resources and is against the original brief.
Now... where your current pillar defense is, and its height, you can build an adjacent foundation next to one and then on top of one of your existing pillar defense towers. Leaping from that to the roof or to a window ledge isn't at all impossible and vastly reduces the amount of charges required to get up there.
All in all... keep on building :)
[QUOTE=SkreamUK;44195284]A 3 foundation base only requires 2 C4 since there is no center room.... Its not safe at all compared to mine.[/QUOTE]
But it is for a quick start. And than you can make stair and it need a lot of c4. I have like 5 story now and I think it take like 50 c4 to raid. This is not to count the pillar that protect me from the ladders.
[QUOTE=Yoda1285;44195643]Hi Detsur
First: Thanks for calling me an armchair quaterback!
Now... I told SkreamUK already that I like the work he has done with the video. But the extended design is not as good as it could be with the required materials to build it. If I would be a mad person, I would tell SkreamUK that even his 5 foundation mini house doesn't require 4 C4, just 3 but I have a good day today and I try to improve the community as much as SkreamUK. But you called me an armchair quaterback just because there are some guys that I call it "outsmart" you?!? You know how many times I got outsmarted in Rust till I gathered my knownledge???
Let me give you a n1 advice. If you dont like rude comments, then dont write such yourself, calling random guys you dont know "armchair quaterbacks"... ;-)[/QUOTE]
If you think my post was aimed at you and you are now taking it personally...so what
[QUOTE=Detsur;44196726]If you think my post was aimed at you and you are now taking it personally...so what[/QUOTE]
Then why not be so fair and aim your post at the dudes you want to insult? Is the little bit copy and paste to hard to do for you? :words:
I think people needa chill :P
However its the Internet . . .
You always need to extend the roof so it expands over by one, so a 1x1 internal would require 3x3 so the top floor roof expands. If they get on the roof, which is not hard in your design, simply lean over and C4 the top floor, drop in!
Very easy to ruin your day on this design... I see the staircase through the wall, I C4 the wall, destroy your staircase and put in a ceiling. Enjoy your unreachable loot room!
[QUOTE=Tripper3k;44200107]Very easy to ruin your day on this design... I see the staircase through the wall, I C4 the wall, destroy your staircase and put in a ceiling. Enjoy your unreachable loot room![/QUOTE]
The focus of the video wasn't the bigger base...
Rotate the stairs so its not on the same place on every floor. Helps throw people off.
Also since you added the corner foundations might as well just wall it all up.
[QUOTE=dlovin123;44200733]Rotate the stairs so its not on the same place on every floor. Helps throw people off.
Also since you added the corner foundations might as well just wall it all up.[/QUOTE]
You could do both but I was just using it as an example as to what you could do from the basic 5 foundation base.
kinda feel that a lot of people missed the point of the video.
'Safest base design for the least amount of resources'
You should pillar up the foundations connected to your base completely, currently you only have the middle and corners done, someone could put one in the side middle slot and xmas tree up to your main floor and blow into your main stash room in 4-6c4
Just some advice to make the base more secure.
[QUOTE=Rustypipe;44202451]You should pillar up the foundations connected to your base completely, currently you only have the middle and corners done, someone could put one in the side middle slot and xmas tree up to your main floor and blow into your main stash room in 4-6c4
Just some advice to make the base more secure.[/QUOTE]
Indeed. Very good tips! :)
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[QUOTE=RockMaster;44202200]kinda feel that a lot of people missed the point of the video.
'Safest base design for the least amount of resources'[/QUOTE]
+1
Defo gonna try this one out for when I next join a server
I could get to the center of you top floor with 2 charges
[QUOTE=rykerh228;44204633]I could get to the center of you top floor with 2 charges[/QUOTE]
It was an example of how you could extend the base I didn't say it was perfect. If done correctly with the foundations around the edge you wouldn't be able to. And obviously metal bars needed to be added.
The amount of people that miss interpret what I'm presenting is amazing.
[QUOTE=SkreamUK;44204818]It was an example of how you could extend the base I didn't say it was perfect. If done correctly with the foundations around the edge you wouldn't be able to. And obviously metal bars needed to be added.
The amount of people that miss interpret what I'm presenting is amazing.[/QUOTE]
Hey SkreamUK, I've been looking for a good streamer with a decent following to record how to break into the standard suicide base. If you want to do this let me know and we can jump on a PVE Free craft server and do a tutorial for people.
I've been seeing a bunch of postings on the forums / reddit about people saying these are unraidable or just generally have a beef with them. If you want to do a showcase on how to break into them let me know and we can line it up.
Cheers, keep up the good work.
[QUOTE=SkreamUK;44204818]The amount of people that miss interpret what I'm presenting is amazing.[/QUOTE]
It's because most people are morons who are overcompensating for their lack of creativity. They'd rather troll someone else rather than try to come up with something unique and useful themselves since it's easier.
I still want a downloadable version of the song at the end of your vids...I love it haha
[QUOTE=almosttactful;44205177]It's because most people are morons who are overcompensating for their lack of creativity. They'd rather troll someone else rather than try to come up with something unique and useful themselves since it's easier.
I still want a downloadable version of the song at the end of your vids...I love it haha[/QUOTE]
Ahahah :) <3
Nice one. gonna do it on next server im in
[QUOTE=RockMaster;44212121]Nice one. gonna do it on next server im in[/QUOTE]
Cool man!
[QUOTE=SkreamUK;44199670]I think people needa chill :P
However its the Internet . . .[/QUOTE]
probably
[QUOTE=StandardKU;44213143]probably[/QUOTE]
:P
Should be bringing out a new video today. Stay Tuned.
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