I think it would be a disservice to the transgendered community to make it changeable because while there is an obvious value attached to genitals (depiction of gender), you guys are seriously overvaluing their significance on a virtual character. It's one of those things you should deal with, as your character doesn't represent you. Gotta build up those skills and accept who you are in spite of the games you play. Also, [I]everyone[/I] should learn to accept genitals and stop giving junk more significance than they deserve.
Ignoring the debate about transgenderism, all the different attributes of a character model would surely have a psychological effect on other players and gameplay as a result.
I can't help but draw the analogy of classes in more traditional games and I wonder why the player is being limited to one "class", albeit with only subtle and psychological differences from other "classes".
Yeah for instance my character is a black man, and I hadn't even thought about this until someone brought it up, but apparently I have an advantage in night fighting vs lighter skinned characters. I'm a night assassin! Daytime is for wusses. =)
[QUOTE=th0rianite;50164581]Ignoring the debate about transgenderism, all the different attributes of a character model would surely have a psychological effect on other players and gameplay as a result.[/QUOTE]
geez man, could you stop derailing?;)
Is it a post about Rust and the character distribution or about life lessons and ethic ?
As most of you ignored my suggestion, I paste it here:
[QUOTE]Add a CHARGED customization service in the main menu, like 5USD to re-roll/customize your character.
Or anything you think that will be viable but charged, it will make ppl chill out and keep their random character. :)[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Junky;50166787]Is it a post about Rust and the character distribution or about life lessons and ethic ?
As most of you ignored my suggestion, I paste it here:[/QUOTE]
We don't need to pay FP for a basic option in a video game. That would be like saying that you can unlock the inventory screen for a dollar.
[editline]20th April 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=wauterboi;50164406]I think it would be a disservice to the transgendered community[/QUOTE]
If you ever come to the realization that you're trans we can have that conversation. Like, seriously, you have two people show up and give a relatively unique reason that this bothers us and suddenly people are social movement experts. We've said what we wanted to say. If you disagree, fine, but do it from a perspective you have real experience with rather than saying that we are transing wrong. Also there is no movement in here - just two trans people. I repeat, two of us, that have declared. I don't want to have to represent a movement to make a suggestion about a game, or get stuck in a conversation about psychology.
[QUOTE=LyciaPintella;50167139]We don't need to pay FP for a basic option in a video game. That would be like saying that you can unlock the inventory screen for a dollar.[/QUOTE]
An inventory screen is a gameplay mechanic, gender is cosmetic and has no effect on gameplay.
[QUOTE=LyciaPintella;50167139]We don't need to pay FP for a basic option in a video game. That would be like saying that you can unlock the inventory screen for a dollar.[/QUOTE]
Your answer makes no sense at all.
So many ppl are complaining about a thing that doesn't change anything in the gameplay but the design of a character you almost never see.
Paying to change cosmetics will make ppl chill out and it won't be a problem anymore. Ppl that are saying "I wanna be a man, I wanna be black and have a huge D" will have to pay for what they want and reddit/forums won't be full of trash topics anymore period.
Trannies, your dissatisfaction has nothing to do with us or with Rust. Rust is an even playing field. What do you want garry to do?? Implement a fucking trans switch? As wauterboi said, [B]deal with it[/B].
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[QUOTE=jayfkay;50167255]Trannies, your dissatisfaction has nothing to do with us or with Rust. Rust is an even playing field. What do you want garry to do?? Implement a fucking trans switch? As wauterboi said, [B]deal with it[/B].[/QUOTE]
So sorry to offend you by suggesting we be able to select our gender in a game. /s
There's enough boys playing Rust who act like sissy whiners, so why shouldn't there be random player skins? Personally, I think they have a secret equation that figures out who plays like a little brat and then makes them have a girl model in-game so the devs know who to watch out for.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;50164406]as your character doesn't represent you[/QUOTE]
First person in the thread that i've seen post this, surprised that so many people missed that point. Maybe I missed someone else saying it.
As wauterboi said, you are not supposed to identify, to relate, to your character in game. If you do, good for you, but that's not the goal of garry and the rust team.
You're stuck with who your character turns out to be due to your steamID.
If you REALLY don't like your character that much, just create a new steam profile and share your games with that new account. Bam, new character.
[QUOTE=.Vel;50169301]First person in the thread that i've seen post this, surprised that so many people missed that point. Maybe I missed someone else saying it.
As wauterboi said, you are not supposed to identify, to relate, to your character in game. If you do, good for you, but that's not the goal of garry and the rust team.
You're stuck with who your character turns out to be due to your steamID.
If you REALLY don't like your character that much, just create a new steam profile and share your games with that new account. Bam, new character.[/QUOTE]
From the fist page. I don't know if anyone else said it too...
[QUOTE=utilitron;50148512]Simply put, your character in rust is an external entity, not an extension of yourself to customize and live vicariously through. Obviously if you have a problem with the lack of customization in Rust you are looking this game to provide something it was never intended to provide for you.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=utilitron;50169345]From the first page. I don't know if anyone else said it too...[/QUOTE]
Had a feeling I overlooked a post with it.
[QUOTE=LyciaPintella;50160941]Oh it was completely dismissive.[/quote]
Right. Telling someone they need to see a doctor is dismissive. Got it.
[quote] In that case he doesn't need you telling people to STFU about issues they care about.[/quote]
Now THAT'S dismissive!
Stop trying to oppress people who disagree with you, and take your drama back to Tumblr.
[editline]20th April 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=LyciaPintella;50163025]A person raises an issue about a video game, another person's only response is to say, "see a shrink."[/quote]
Nice overgeneralization. The other person said that this game causes "crushing dysphoria". That's an unreasonable response to any game, let alone one where you run around murdering people. That person should either stop playing the game, or seek professional help working through their issue.
[quote]Really the issue here is anyone who doesn't know what being trans is like needs to stop giving advice to those of us who do.[/quote]
Being trans has nothing to do with your opinion. You keep bringing that up as if we should treat people who are trans differently.
Nobody is bullying here except you.
[editline]20th April 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=LyciaPintella;50164173]I demonstrated the difference between "go see a shrink" and showing some kind of empathy and maybe some kind of support[/QUOTE]
You're the only one who said "go see a shrink". I suggested that the person go get professional mental help -- which, by the way, couldn't be more empathetic or supportive.
[QUOTE=Maximum Over;50170356]You're the only one who said "go see a shrink". I suggested that the person go get professional mental help -- which, by the way, couldn't be more empathetic or supportive.[/QUOTE]
Except that the OP was posting to make a suggestion about a videogame informed by their life experiences. You're on a videogame forum. Your reply was only a reframing of the issue to be about someone else's problems rather than the insight their experience can bring to the table, and I'm being generous when I say that. It was really a GTFO comment, and if your intentions were different you just wrote a bad post. We can move on from that anytime.
[QUOTE=Maximum Over;50170356]Being trans has nothing to do with your opinion. You keep bringing that up as if we should treat people who are trans differently.[/QUOTE]
No, being trans is the primary reason I have the opinion I do, and it is worth mentioning why I have my opinion when I post it. Also, my response was to people like you and others that want to focus on our transiness and deconstruct its validity as a reason to make a suggestion in a game.
[QUOTE=Maximum Over;50170356]The other person said that this game causes "crushing dysphoria". That's an unreasonable response to any game[/QUOTE]
This is you pretending to know what you're talking about again. While some trans people experience mild dysphoria, many experience very severe dysphoria regardless of what activity they are engaged in. So yes, it's quite reasonable considering that there are a substantial number of trans people that experience dysphoria when they wake up and brush their teeth. Why don't you ask us what is normal for us instead of declaring that you already know?
[QUOTE=Maximum Over;50170356]Now THAT'S dismissive![/QUOTE]
I replied to someone who said that Garry can work on the game without my suggestions. I'm sure Garry can handle himself and doesn't need people in here with gags protecting him from simple feedback. No, it's not dismissive. I reflected the person's rhetoric back to demonstrate that the entire goal of most of the people I am replying to is summed up as: [B][I]OMG a trans person, shut them the hell up right now.[/I][/B]
Also to add, I'm really sick of this particular line of discussion and I see it as a total derailment of the purpose of the forum thread and the OP. If you want to talk about gameplay or some other matter, fine, but I'm done with this back and forth slapfight. The only thing I'm interested in discussing now is gameplay and how Garry's bad social experiment (you can tell it's a social exercise by reading his announcement) with character customization being generated by steamID can be corrected in the future. If you think I'm completely wrong and you love the system, fine, say you love it. Say it's the best thing ever. But you don't have to try to play armchair psychologist to do that. The most useful comment in this thread was when someone said you can family share the game off to another account to basically get a re-roll, and that comment wasn't trying to score points or hit someone with a sledgehammer.
[QUOTE=LyciaPintella;50171522]Your reply was only a reframing of the issue to be about someone else's problems rather than the insight their experience can bring to the table, and I'm being generous when I say that.[/quote]
They placed their problems front and center by stating that the game causes "crushing dysphoria". Anyone who experiences that from a game, let alone Rust, needs professional mental help. Being trans doesn't mean you're required to suffer through a life of "crushing dysphoria".
I stand by the assessment. Feel free to disagree; I couldn't care less.
[quote]No, being trans is the primary reason I have the opinion I do[/quote]
It neither elevates nor degrades the value of your opinion; your opinion is worth exactly the same as everyone else's. It's unfortunate that you feel differently. I might as well preface every post with a statement that I'm right-handed or have brown hair.
[quote]my response was to people like you and others that want to focus on our transiness[/quote]
... says the only poster who keeps bringing up transiness. Look, if you want to discuss the game, go for it. If you want to talk about trans issues or any other humanitarian or societal issue, perhaps Tumblr or one of the general forums here might be a more suitable place. None of that has anything to do with Rust.
[quote]This is you pretending to know what you're talking about again. While some trans people experience mild dysphoria, many experience very severe dysphoria regardless of what activity they are engaged in.[/quote]
Sounds like an excellent reason to seek professional mental health assistance.
[quote]I see it as a total derailment of the purpose of the forum thread and the OP.[/quote]
Yes, we all agree. :goodjob: Thank you for posting your comment and/or feedback. None of us care about your "transiness", and most of us disagree with your opinion.
[editline]21st April 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=mrknifey;50165196]geez man, could you stop derailing?;)[/QUOTE]
So anyway, if we could steer this topic back to discussing the #1 Rock-Based Murder Simulator on Steam, I'm personally looking forward to the day when we can replace player names based on appearance alone. I doubt we'll ever get that far, but think of the social engineering that will lead to!
[QUOTE=LyciaPintella;50171522][B][I]OMG a trans person, shut them the hell up right now.[/I][/B][/QUOTE]I hope you're not characterizing my replies to you as this.
The way that I look at it is if I have been raped, it would be unfair for me to expect media to accommodate for me. There shouldn't be options in movies or in video game stories that remove all references to rape. Instead, I should improve my life by doing a lot of things:
1.) Playing games and watching movies that are more accessible for me.
2.) Getting psychological help
3.) Learning to deal with the fact that rape is a part of life and the difficult ideas of such will be explored in different forms of media, and that to try and force everyone to accommodate for my needs is restricting artwork, freedom of speech, and the potential enjoyment of others
Now, let's not get carried away - your situation is not as extreme as that. You just want your character to be your same gender. Still, there are parallels:
1.) You're capable of playing other games and watching other movies if you can't handle your character not being your same gender.
2.) You can totally get psychological help if you feel that you can't even bear the idea of being an opposite gender in a virtual world.
3.) You should learn to deal with the fact that you can't always customize every single detail of life to match your true self. This is true not only for transgendered people, but people of different races too, and furthermore everyone in general. The solution is to really understand that your identity is not comprised by the things you own, like a game and the fake reality within it, or even your physical self. My body isn't me, and your body isn't you. Following that logic, your virtual body isn't you. And I question whether it's healthy to not even be able to have fun with a virtual representation of you - if your craving for every single aspect of your life to match up with your gender exceeds reality itself, I think you may be [I]obsessive[/I], which is partially understandable but never the less a problem.
It's not everyone else that has to change - it's you. You've gotta practice fitting in and being equal. No one can choose their gender within the game, and it would be a disservice for you to be the odd one out.
[QUOTE=LyciaPintella;50171522]I replied to someone who said that Garry can work on the game without my suggestions. I'm sure Garry can handle himself and doesn't need people in here with gags protecting him from simple feedback. No, it's not dismissive. I reflected the person's rhetoric back to demonstrate that the entire goal of most of the people I am replying to is summed up as: [B][I]OMG a trans person, shut them the hell up right now.[/I][/B][/QUOTE]
i was going to politely bow out, but that "person" would have been me:
[QUOTE=mrknifey;50160555]i'm sure garry can independently peruse the depths of his psyche about this whole "i want random player models but it seems some people are overly invested in having a choice" thing without your help.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=mrknifey;50161065]i never said you couldn't post your opinion; i said (and lets clarify/paraphrase here) that garry doesn't need the "transgender" input from you anymore than he needs my "middle age white man" input. he/they have decided they want the characters to be randomised. no hidden anti-trans agenda. no need for crushing dysphoria. it's just a game.[/QUOTE]
so as you can see, my response was basically saying that your "trans" opinion holds no more weight than my "middle age white man" opinion. it wasn't trying to "shut you up", it was reminding you that you being trans is no more relevant than me being a white guy when it comes to the decisions the developers make in their own game, nor in the validity of someone suggesting professional help to another person who has just said they get crushing dysphoria from not being able to choose which pixels go where on a digital avatar in a game.
this probably sums it all up quite nicely;
[QUOTE=Maximum Over;50171839]It neither elevates nor degrades the value of your opinion; your opinion is worth exactly the same as everyone else's. It's unfortunate that you feel differently. I might as well preface every post with a statement that I'm right-handed or have brown hair.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=jumonjii;50132466]Why not reroll every wipe? That way it's a "brand new" game every time.[/QUOTE]
Agreed. If we [I]HAVE[/I] to be assigned gender against our will, then at least re-roll in on server wipes, so that at least it's fair! Everyone gets a turn playing as a fugly chick, then I wouldn't have a problem with it.
[QUOTE=mrknifey;50173191]so as you can see, my response was basically saying that your "trans" opinion holds no more weight than my "middle age white man" opinion.[/QUOTE]
I never said they have to do this because I'm trans, or that my opinion is more valuable than anyone else's. I explained why it matters to me more than it does to most people, and went kinda off on someone who dismissed said reason as stated by another trans person (I know we disagree on this, we don't have to re-litigate it). It's not a matter of opinion weight, it's a matter of trying to bring another perspective to the table that I am about 80% sure Garry wasn't thinking about when he made his decision. TBH, reading his announcement, it looked more like a big FU to straight white guys than anyone else, and since I believed he missed a demographic that was impacted in a way I do not believe he intended, I felt the need to post.
I think all of my posts here are on this topic or on performance issues. I generally find the Rust community to be fairly toxic (the game design encourages it) so I only wade in if I really, really care about something (which means I'm ready for a fight before I post, because I know it's coming). Anemic round velocity from an SMG won't bring me here. This did. If game performance doesn't pick up in a few months I'm gonna have to get more involved or give up on the game though, unfortunately. Having to play at 720p with low presets to have a solid framerate on a 7870 with an FX 6300 is kinda ludicrous.
One thing I do suggest to anyone who has my concern is play on a modded server that spawns you with basic clothes. That's something I did before I came here to post
Out of curiosity, I asked a transgendered friend and they don't have an issue with the concept. They can understand trying to escape from femininity and masculinity, so don't feel crazy, but don't think the game is a problem. I stand by my previous point that you have to develop a tolerance and understanding for things like this.
[QUOTE=.Vel;50169301]
If you REALLY don't like your character that much, just create a new steam profile and share your games with that new account. Bam, new character.[/QUOTE]
This seems to be the logical things to do for the minute. Just wait till wipe then start afresh with a new person; I'm sure there are many people who have already started doing this.
[QUOTE=Maximum Over;50133761]So now that we've got that out of the way, it's random just like many other things in the game -- terrain, starting location, resource placement, etc. It adds an element of variety.[/QUOTE]
thank u!
Why can't people understand that different genders and races are, hold your breath, everywhere in the world, and they wanna make the game as real as possible. Damn some people are just plain stupid.
[QUOTE=Triquatra;50175002]This seems to be the logical things to do for the minute. Just wait till wipe then start afresh with a new person; I'm sure there are many people who have already started doing this.[/QUOTE]
that just doesn't work, i have tried with 2 new accounts. i think, rust client is tied to the original owner's steam id and despite of which account starting the game, character generated is exactly the same. woman zombie, in my particular case :)
It does work; we have 4 accounts in this house, mine, my wifes and my two children. we all have different people. Despite having to buy many of the games 3 or 4 times (as we all play Sonic Transformed/Gmod etc), I am the only one who owns Rust, so if they boys or the wife want to play it, they have to use the family share option. My character is a male, short and facially challenged. When the wife logs into her steam and uses family-share she is a girl, likewise my eldests (which he find's hilarious, but my youngest son's character is male.
I don't know that garry was thinking of trans people or sticking his middle finger at straight white guys or any other demographic when he made the decision to force character creation by semi-random seed. I believe he was thinking of the game design decision and how it would impact the game design (plenty of visual variety, a persistent appearance so that you are recognizable and identifiable between respawns/sessions, etc.) and not giving nearly as much thought to the social commentary aspect of things.
The social commentary aspect has been forced into the scene by reactions from players and the general public as group by group bring their agendas to the table. Teenage/young adult straight boys are uncomfortable with either their own player model or with the discriminatory treatment they're suddenly receiving due to their gender. White people blaming the game for "forcing" them to endure discrimination (possibly for the first time) by racist players on their server for their assigned skin colour. Female players who were waiting for female models and assumed they'd be given a choice have shown up asking for their expectations to be satisfied. And a small number of trans individuals, such as in this thread, have made the case that being unable to choose their character's traits is somehow a slight against them.
I don't believe that any of these conflicts or situations were deliberate plans by garry. They are instead consequences of the game design decision he made for his game. However, garry is also someone who does not bow to popular pressure over arbitrary design changes like this, [B]not[/B] because he is a jerk who wants to offend people, but because it's a game, it's his game, and people don't have to play it in order to enjoy a good life.
If not being able to customize your character in Rust causes you actual distress and discomfort for any reason (I am [U]not[/U] singling out the participants of this thread, but referring to the entire controversy) and causes you to be unable to play Rust, there might be something deeper going on and it is not something a video game or its developer team can help you on. Making a big deal of it and demanding garry change the game (again, not referring specifically to this thread but the whole situation) is trying to fix the wrong end of the problem, whatever it is.
[QUOTE=redSun66;50175516]woman zombie, in my particular case :)[/QUOTE]
If the threads that've been made calling for the return of zombies, and the threads calling for female characters, you're going to be very popular. Unfortunately it may not be [I]positive[/I] popularity seeing as all the bring-back-zombies threads were because they wanted to kill them. :v:
[QUOTE=LyciaPintella;50174761][B]I never said they have to do this because I'm trans, or that my opinion is more valuable than anyone else's.[/B] I explained why it matters to me more than it does to most people, and went kinda off on someone who dismissed said reason as stated by another trans person (I know we disagree on this, we don't have to re-litigate it). It's not a matter of opinion weight, it's a matter of trying to bring another perspective to the table that I am about 80% sure Garry wasn't thinking about when he made his decision.
[/QUOTE]
By bringing it to the table you are automatically coming across as doing just that..your sexual orientation doesn't matter in this "debate", which is futile to begin with. It just seems like a cry for attention. I don't know why I got banned for my last post. Maybe I am not as good with words as wauterboi, who is saying exactly what I want to say, just nicer, but I don't see that as flaming.
Point is, this shit needs to stop. We all got a gender assigned, it is merely a change of cosmetic nature in a goddamn video game (that, assumingly, we all love). There is no fucking need to argue about it, it doesn't hurt anyone.
also @elixwhitetail
I don't think anyone gets discriminated against in Rust.. you guys are taking this way too far.
I simply usually oppose playing female models because of the aesthetics (I prefer playing a tough V shape guy over a pear shaped girl) and I imagine it is like that for most other players...but now that I can't do anything about it, I don't give a shit.
But it's just... funny how many people get offended or pissed off, good job garry. A mate of mine even bought another copy to play as a guy.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;50175793]I don't know that garry was thinking of trans people or sticking his middle finger at straight white guys or any other demographic when he made the decision to force character creation by semi-random seed. I believe he was thinking of the game design decision and how it would impact the game design (plenty of visual variety, a persistent appearance so that you are recognizable and identifiable between respawns/sessions, etc.) and not giving nearly as much thought to the social commentary aspect of things.[/QUOTE]
[url]https://playrust.com/devblog-105/[/url]
"We understand this is a sore subject for a lot of people. We understand that you may now be a gender that you don’t identify with in real-life. We understand this causes you distress and makes you not want to play the game anymore."
You may be right, but that is what I was referring to.
[editline]21st April 2016[/editline]
[QUOTE=jayfkay;50176278]There is no fucking need to argue about it, it doesn't hurt anyone.
[/QUOTE]
So, don't?
[QUOTE=LyciaPintella;50176537][url]https://playrust.com/devblog-105/[/url]
"We understand this is a sore subject for a lot of people. We understand that you may now be a gender that you don’t identify with in real-life. We understand this causes you distress and makes you not want to play the game anymore."
You may be right, but that is what I was referring to.[/QUOTE]
Don't forget the second half of that paragraph:
[QUOTE] Technically nothing has changed, since half the population was already living with those feelings. The only difference is that whether you feel like this is now decided by your SteamID instead of your real life gender.[/QUOTE]
garry is not blind to the social-commentary consequences that the decision had/will have, but my point is that he did not base his decisions on how players would react in forum threads, he based his decision on how players would act and react in-game.
[QUOTE=jayfkay;50176278]also @elixwhitetail
I don't think [B]anyone[/B] gets discriminated against in Rust.. you guys are taking this way too far.[/QUOTE]
No?
[QUOTE=deputydawg;47322210]I've been playing today and been called "nigger" by about six different people. This is ridiculous, is there anything that can be done about this? These skin colours seem like a poor decision.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=.anubis;48365844]There should be a option to change your skin color im tired of going on servers and hear people say come here you n***** this happens every time i play. its getting old as im stuck as a black person. It kind of sucks too when the main server i spend most of my time turns out that im the only black dude running around. This kind of promotes racism.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=plat0nic;48373225]My character is a black man, I on the other hand in real life am a white male. I live in Baltimore, so racism is something I see people endure everyday and something I have great empathy for because I live in the middle of such a racially tense area in a racially tense city. [B]But I tell you when I had my first redneck come up to me in Rust and tell me that you can't trust dark skinned people(he was more colorful with his language as you can imagine) and that he needed to stop and frisk me for 'contraband' and then proceeded to shoot and loot me when I asked him what he was talking about(I had no idea I was black, I just spawned that way) it felt like I'd been kicked in the gut and deepened my compassion for my neighbors and what they go through in real life every day.[/B] At first I was so furious at the racist hatred this guy was walking around inflicting on others but then I realized the irony was that he was forcing white people, some of them probably racists themselves, to experience, in a simulated and safe way, exactly what non-whites go through in real life and that's more powerful than almost anything I can imagine for opening people up everything that's wrong with inflicting this kind of hate on someone else because of the way they spawned into this world.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=JaketheSnake2;47829027]I know that they are trying to make rust more divers but [B]i think its not fair for a Pearson of a certain race be called names for what they arnt[/B] and what is the difference between a female and a male all you have to do is blur out the boobs and its all the same. I'm not mad if it seems that way but these should be implemented into the game for the players[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Outback;48062304]You could actually argue it inhibits player freedom if you're playing and players repeatedly kill you because of the way your player looks, and you're unable to change it.[/QUOTE]
And then there are special people like this who bought Rust and at least used to play it:
[QUOTE=Chevy65;48250031]Just do what I did and delete the game from your library and never play it again. Awesome game ruined by what seems like a damn social experiment. Not being able to choose/create your own character in this kind of game is down right F'd up. Luckily you only pay $20 for it.
It took A LONG time to be fine with playing as a black guy but after this last update made me a black female F--- it I'm done... F U Garry... F U...[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Chevy65;48254004]Yup figures someone would go there... ok first and for most to be racist we would all need to be different races and since we are all homo-sapiens being racist isn't possible. Now being a prejudice is possible and is what most people are [B]but since a select few blacks seem to expect special treatment we just calling it "racism".[/B][/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=withnail;48258653]-snipped half the bs-
I bet if he could, Garry would stop white people from buying Rust until there are enough PoC who have also bought it. I bet he can't wait for the day Steam ties your real race to your SteamID. "Sorry, there are just straight up too many crackers up in hea'. Come back when some more brothers have signed up. PS, 50% off for anyone who isn't white!"
What a glorious, brave new world it would be.[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Zezztah;48000293]Oh god no please. worst idea i've ever heard...
IF SO, make so you can atleast choose what race and color you will be. I'd hate if i became a girl. Like honestly i dont even see why theres a need to have females in the game. only who will play them is like either small kids or fat men who lives in their parents basement.'
just my opinion[/QUOTE]
[QUOTE=Karma.;47290196]so if I don't want to be white/black/brown/purple/etc I have no say and tough cookies for me?
not sure I like it, but whatever. [B]I can totally see the prison mentality forming on some servers though[/B], this is going to be a funny dynamic.[/QUOTE]
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