[QUOTE=Zipper Bear;47478155]You're exaggerating on the rad walling. Its not denying people anything they can't also find in barrels in the world. The only real advantage it gives is a nice centralized loot location to farm. You could wall off a giant area heavy with barrel spawns and accomplish the same thing.
Plus its pretty challenging To get that wall up, upgrade it, and maintain it from the various attempts to get past it. I've done the rad wall with my small group of friends and we practically had to be online 24/7 just to keep it secure. It was only fun in the sense that we were a giant beacon asking to be attacked.[/QUOTE]
Finally someone that get it. Walls around radtown are not a big deal. most of them are made of stone, they can easily be raided. i would say more than 50% of the time i was able to enter the wall anyway, either by 1. finding a hole between foundations, 2. jumping in somewhere, 3. a stone ore appear next to the wall, allowing me to jump on the rock then over the wall. and 4, hatchet your way in.
And then, 100% of the walls i was against had their cupoards in stone enclosure. which makes it easy cause stone can be pickaxed in 20minutes. so one person could jump in, pickaxe a cupboard, and create an area of the wall without cupboard. then you just have to place one single cupboard in an armored enclosure and that part of the wall is yours, you are free to build some stairs or a locked door for yourself. add 5 cupboards in armored enclosure, and i doubt the waller will remove them all. I even did it once while the wallers were present, in their fortress on the other side of the wall. i attacked on the other side and they never saw me.
I walled the radtown for the first time too, last weekend. took me 8 hours by myself, about 60k stone. which i consider easy since it can be reduced it you team up. people have been building tower to get in, and using hatchet to destroy part of the wall.
The issue with C4 isn't the cost balance, it's where the risk and time is spent. It's almost 100% frontloaded by making it. Moving the C4 doesn't slow you down or make you vulnerable. And once the first charge is set, most bases have very litle time before it's game over. Offline raiding has been a fact of rust life since Legacy, and while traps and spikes will be fun, they won't change that time and risk equation significantly.
Barrels and siege weapons would give back the (only, but important) upside of pre-C4 experimental raiding: vulnerability and time spent on the raid itself. Placing barrels and gunpowder trail fuses, and someday operating straight-up siege engines, would be a fun way to spend that time. And that time would also invite neighbors and passers-by to make that raid a memorable multi-sided brawl.
[QUOTE=Zipper Bear;47478155]You're exaggerating on the rad walling. Its not denying people anything they can't also find in barrels in the world. The only real advantage it gives is a nice centralized loot location to farm. You could wall off a giant area heavy with barrel spawns and accomplish the same thing.
Plus its pretty challenging To get that wall up, upgrade it, and maintain it from the various attempts to get past it. I've done the rad wall with my small group of friends and we practically had to be online 24/7 just to keep it secure. It was only fun in the sense that we were a giant beacon asking to be attacked.[/QUOTE]
im not exaggerating it, im speaking from experience, if the guy in his rad town tower overlooking with his bolt sees someone running about within the rad town then firing begins and no doubt death which doesnt give you much time if any to get any radtown spoils.
but i concede on the notion that stone walls require C4 i did some testing last night and was pleasantly surprised, its just going to require some ninja tactics.
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