• Ways to get people on your server?
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Hey everyone, Just looking for tips on how to get people on your Rust server. Had a server for about 2-3 weeks, and online sucks ass. Some day we can have 5-10 people, another 0-3. This sucks. I installed many awesome plugins that people looking for. I always try to be online to help people with their problems/questions. I advertised this server on couple forums, facepunch, reddit and steam. Nothing really works. Servers name: Survival Camp Please help? :/
I made my server a couple weeks ago. I get about 20 people on at a time on average. What helped me get a population going: 1. Being friendly with the people on your server. Become friends with people who frequent your server often. 2. Ask feedback on plugins (Maybe you don't have plugins that people like). Make your /kits better, only having 1 max is too low. 3. Add mini-games. I built a "Fun House" and if you can figure it out and get to the end without dying you get a Prize. Also, built an arena with winners get prizes. 4. Just be active as an admin on your server. You have to treat your server like a pet, if you don't keep up with it, it will die. 5. Keep kicking and banning to a minimum, unless you have to (hackers, racists, etc.) 6. I see you have "Noob Friendly" on your server name. That can be inviting but I see it as wasted space on advertising the mods on your server. Like putting Instant craft, kits, tp, sethome etc. 7. Wiping frequently helps, not every week. But once the server has become dead and the only people left are the ones with all the good loot. It's time to wipe.
The most successful method to getting a population is to play on your server with 5-10 friends. If you do that consistently and they actually log hours, you'll build up slowly. Another thing is don't play as an admin. It sucks, but be present and helpful but playing will just get you in trouble. Try explaining away to the ~5 randoms online that the kill you just got was legitimate and watch as they leave when some 12 year old punk starts crowing admin abuse. Trust me on this. If you play, do so on a separate, non-admin account. Source: 50+ average population in the modded tab on most nights. Started from ~5 friends that played with me almost 2 months ago. It's a lot of work. There's almost no autopilot for many, many weeks unless you're a streamer or have some other form of notoriety.
[QUOTE=krims0n;48081144]I made my server a couple weeks ago. I get about 20 people on at a time on average. What helped me get a population going: 1. Being friendly with the people on your server. Become friends with people who frequent your server often. 2. Ask feedback on plugins (Maybe you don't have plugins that people like). Make your /kits better, only having 1 max is too low. 3. Add mini-games. I built a "Fun House" and if you can figure it out and get to the end without dying you get a Prize. Also, built an arena with winners get prizes. 4. Just be active as an admin on your server. You have to treat your server like a pet, if you don't keep up with it, it will die. 5. Keep kicking and banning to a minimum, unless you have to (hackers, racists, etc.) 6. I see you have "Noob Friendly" on your server name. That can be inviting but I see it as wasted space on advertising the mods on your server. Like putting Instant craft, kits, tp, sethome etc. 7. Wiping frequently helps, not every week. But once the server has become dead and the only people left are the ones with all the good loot. It's time to wipe.[/QUOTE] Thank you, Sir! [editline]29th June 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=elninost0rm;48081176]The most successful method to getting a population is to play on your server with 5-10 friends. If you do that consistently and they actually log hours, you'll build up slowly. Another thing is don't play as an admin. It sucks, but be present and helpful but playing will just get you in trouble. Try explaining away to the ~5 randoms online that the kill you just got was legitimate and watch as they leave when some 12 year old punk starts crowing admin abuse. Trust me on this. If you play, do so on a separate, non-admin account. Source: 50+ average population in the modded tab on most nights. Started from ~5 friends that played with me almost 2 months ago. It's a lot of work. There's almost no autopilot for many, many weeks unless you're a streamer or have some other form of notoriety.[/QUOTE] Heh. I have about 2-3 people that play with me all the time (well, often). It's just hard to find people that are willing to play on your newbie server. People typically looking for a huge online, you know. But I will try my best. Thank you for contributing!
Instead of having a separate account for admin/user, just admin through console while playing with user permissions.
I play in Asia, and we have a lot of difficulty to find a good community server. I tried at least 10 servers, i can tell you why i left those. 1. If i ever hear of the [B]admin spawning any ressource or item, i will leave[/B]. I had a few servers where either the admin was over friendly, i would meet him in game, then he just build me a house with his admin ressource, give me a few guns, etc. Its generous, but that means he must do it for many people, and its not a fair game. Another case is an admin who denied that he was abusing. He always had the biggest, all armored (or metal) house, fulls of guns and C4, but curiously he was not online very often (how can he be so rich then?). One day the admin group went and destroy a random guy house, in front of me. he just threw 6 C3 to destroy a wall (who can afford to waste C4, really) We eventually caught his friend with a stack of 99 facemask on him. We took screenshots, loudly complained in chat, convinced more than half of the population to leave the server. 2. I prefer a server with no admin, than a [B]admin who ban people based on complaint only, like a noob get headshot or raided[/B], complain the other guy must be a hacker, then ban them . No offense, but there are a lot of experienced raiders, and there are lots of way to fuckup with people. Built a house on the satelite dish and think nobody can reach it except hackers? no luck, i'll build a precisely calculated twig tower, make a diving board, jump and survive with 5hp ,and will reach and raid the house. No house is unraidable, and sometime i dont even kill the guy, i get cupboard auto but dont reset it, and repair the walls behind, just to fuck with the guy. 3. [B]Server consistence[/B]. If the server start to get a healthy population, and then goes offline for a few days. I will quit and just find another server, even if it comes back. If the server is not stable, i wont invest my time in it. It just take 1 down time to kill a server population. I know its unfortunate and hard to keep up, but thats the reality. 4. [B]No crybaby rule.[/B] I'm talking about the "no griefing" or no offline raid, or no building on top of rock. These rules are bullshit. The only rule in rust is there is no rules. If i raid a house, its to my choice if i want to block the entrance with stone blocks. I agree its a dick move to do, but if the guy is an asshole that kill on sight, i'm sure gonna get revenge. I personally dont like to do that. Even some raids where i could see it was unbalanced, we will give back the stuff to the guy and help him out, because we know it can be frustrating to lose everything and we dont want to push people out of the server. But sometime you just have that asshole player who totally deserve to lose his house. 5. [B]I can accept some rules like "no glitching" or exploiting[/B], like those people who live inside rocks or under the map. If you make it clear what exploit are accepted and not, and ban the very obvious exploit, its fine. Some admins make the mistake of banning people without warning because they "think" they are hackers, but in reality they are either very good, or just abusing some bugs in the game. Like now, its unfortunate but the game physics allow to build under the map and inside rocks. the game stacking system is bugged and allow to make stacks higher than 1000 (and even if you dont actively try to do the stacking exploit, you'll end up doing it by queuing 21 paper and cancel them). So if you ban someone for exploiting, you have to warn them before and make sure its clear that this type of exploit is not accepted. 6. [B]no mod server.[/B] I personnaly think that if the gathering rates are boosted, it remove any purpose to the game. Playing on server with increased gather/craft, feels like playing on a offline server with infinite ressources. Sure i can build the biggest house ever and have guns after an hour. But that means every also have it and there is no purpose in raiding, or in surviving, because anyway i can get it back in no time. I know you said you have a mod server but thats just my opinion. Thats pretty much it. just be fair, make sure the server is stable and the downtime is short after each update. And to tell you, I still havent found a server i like in asia. The only server that fits that are officials, and 3 days ago even the official server i was on (fp hongkong) got flooded by hackers, then went offline for 3 days (still offline today). [editline]29th June 2015[/editline] Like the other guy said, try to bring some friend. Last weekend i was playing on fp hong kong and it went offline. I convinced my team to go on a community server i knew but had low pop, 9 of us moved there. I also convinced a friend's team to move there, another 6 players. Together we added up 15 players and i think it made a difference.
Build everyone a room on your server like this [url=http://postimg.org/image/nrk9c90cj/full/][img]http://s13.postimg.org/f9at7wttz/2015_06_29_00004.jpg[/img][/url] [url=http://postimage.org/]free upload image[/url] and dont let them leave ..(^_^)..
Here's the important thing: Building a community takes time and dedication. A server with 100 people at peak times today started out at 2 people, and then 6 people, and then slowly that increased to 10, and then it began to snowball as more people introduced their friends to the server. Different types of servers have become popular, so there's no one magic bullet as to what configuration of plugins and rules will make your server a hit, but dedication, time, and good communication and interaction with the players are probably the things those servers all have in common if nothing else. Expecting that all to happen in two weeks might be a little premature. P.S. having fun in GTAO, berdyev? :v:
[QUOTE=louisclub;48083636]I play in Asia, and we have a lot of difficulty to find a good community server. I tried at least 10 servers, i can tell you why i left those. 1. If i ever hear of the [B]admin spawning any ressource or item, i will leave[/B]. I had a few servers where either the admin was over friendly, i would meet him in game, then he just build me a house with his admin ressource, give me a few guns, etc. Its generous, but that means he must do it for many people, and its not a fair game. Another case is an admin who denied that he was abusing. He always had the biggest, all armored (or metal) house, fulls of guns and C4, but curiously he was not online very often (how can he be so rich then?). One day the admin group went and destroy a random guy house, in front of me. he just threw 6 C3 to destroy a wall (who can afford to waste C4, really) We eventually caught his friend with a stack of 99 facemask on him. We took screenshots, loudly complained in chat, convinced more than half of the population to leave the server. 2. I prefer a server with no admin, than a [B]admin who ban people based on complaint only, like a noob get headshot or raided[/B], complain the other guy must be a hacker, then ban them . No offense, but there are a lot of experienced raiders, and there are lots of way to fuckup with people. Built a house on the satelite dish and think nobody can reach it except hackers? no luck, i'll build a precisely calculated twig tower, make a diving board, jump and survive with 5hp ,and will reach and raid the house. No house is unraidable, and sometime i dont even kill the guy, i get cupboard auto but dont reset it, and repair the walls behind, just to fuck with the guy. 3. [B]Server consistence[/B]. If the server start to get a healthy population, and then goes offline for a few days. I will quit and just find another server, even if it comes back. If the server is not stable, i wont invest my time in it. It just take 1 down time to kill a server population. I know its unfortunate and hard to keep up, but thats the reality. 4. [B]No crybaby rule.[/B] I'm talking about the "no griefing" or no offline raid, or no building on top of rock. These rules are bullshit. The only rule in rust is there is no rules. If i raid a house, its to my choice if i want to block the entrance with stone blocks. I agree its a dick move to do, but if the guy is an asshole that kill on sight, i'm sure gonna get revenge. I personally dont like to do that. Even some raids where i could see it was unbalanced, we will give back the stuff to the guy and help him out, because we know it can be frustrating to lose everything and we dont want to push people out of the server. But sometime you just have that asshole player who totally deserve to lose his house. 5. [B]I can accept some rules like "no glitching" or exploiting[/B], like those people who live inside rocks or under the map. If you make it clear what exploit are accepted and not, and ban the very obvious exploit, its fine. Some admins make the mistake of banning people without warning because they "think" they are hackers, but in reality they are either very good, or just abusing some bugs in the game. Like now, its unfortunate but the game physics allow to build under the map and inside rocks. the game stacking system is bugged and allow to make stacks higher than 1000 (and even if you dont actively try to do the stacking exploit, you'll end up doing it by queuing 21 paper and cancel them). So if you ban someone for exploiting, you have to warn them before and make sure its clear that this type of exploit is not accepted. 6. [B]no mod server.[/B] I personnaly think that if the gathering rates are boosted, it remove any purpose to the game. Playing on server with increased gather/craft, feels like playing on a offline server with infinite ressources. Sure i can build the biggest house ever and have guns after an hour. But that means every also have it and there is no purpose in raiding, or in surviving, because anyway i can get it back in no time. I know you said you have a mod server but thats just my opinion. Thats pretty much it. just be fair, make sure the server is stable and the downtime is short after each update. And to tell you, I still havent found a server i like in asia. The only server that fits that are officials, and 3 days ago even the official server i was on (fp hongkong) got flooded by hackers, then went offline for 3 days (still offline today). [editline]29th June 2015[/editline] Like the other guy said, try to bring some friend. Last weekend i was playing on fp hong kong and it went offline. I convinced my team to go on a community server i knew but had low pop, 9 of us moved there. I also convinced a friend's team to move there, another 6 players. Together we added up 15 players and i think it made a difference.[/QUOTE] Wow! Thank you for such an input! <3 [editline]1st July 2015[/editline] [QUOTE=elixwhitetail;48084806]Here's the important thing: Building a community takes time and dedication. A server with 100 people at peak times today started out at 2 people, and then 6 people, and then slowly that increased to 10, and then it began to snowball as more people introduced their friends to the server. Different types of servers have become popular, so there's no one magic bullet as to what configuration of plugins and rules will make your server a hit, but dedication, time, and good communication and interaction with the players are probably the things those servers all have in common if nothing else. Expecting that all to happen in two weeks might be a little premature. P.S. having fun in GTAO, berdyev? :v:[/QUOTE] Yeah.. I guess I'll just have to wait. I see your point. PS: Yeah.. I definitely do :D Why you ask? lol
[QUOTE=elninost0rm;48081176] Another thing is don't play as an admin. It sucks, but be present and helpful but playing will just get you in trouble. Try explaining away to the ~5 randoms online that the kill you just got was legitimate and watch as they leave when some 12 year old punk starts crowing admin abuse. Trust me on this. If you play, do so on a separate, non-admin account. [/QUOTE] So much this. I played on a server back in legacy for a long time. The admin was known as "GarrysBabe" or something, but when he wanted to play normally, he changed his display name. This way no one knew the admin and him were the same person. Definitely cut down on the crying children when he rcked their shit.
offer them nothing. make it vanilla rust and ban all cheaters. rule with dignity and kindness.
[QUOTE=louisclub;48083636] 1. If i ever hear of the [B]admin spawning any ressource or item, i will leave[/B]. 2. I prefer a server with no admin, than a [B]admin who ban people based on complaint only, like a noob get headshot or raided[/B], complain the other guy must be a hacker, then ban them . 4. [B]No crybaby rule.[/B][/QUOTE] 1. The problem is, whether or not admins actually do, they constantly get accused of that stuff. Even if the admins do nothing, the first thing some whiner will do when he gets raided and can't figure out how someone got in is cry admin abuse. When they get raided with overwhelming force, the claim the admins provided others with resources to do it. If there are no visible admins, they cry hackers. So "hearing" about stuff means nothing. If there's an active admin, crybabies are going to accuse the admin of abuse, even if he plays impeccably by all the rules. Get to know the admins on a server. You'll be able to tell soon enough if they're good guys or not. Make the decision on your own, not based on hearsay. 2. That's a terrible thing, because people can accuse people they don't like of whatever they wish. Without an active admin on the server, he can't actually verify claims. No respectable admin would just ban people on hearsay unless it's a bunch of trusted regulars that witnesses someone actively hacking. 4. Good luck with that. There are crybabies everywhere. I tend to ban them because they're just detrimental to the community.
[QUOTE=Catgut;48090897]offer them nothing. make it vanilla rust and ban all cheaters. rule with dignity and kindness.[/QUOTE] Eh. For vanilla servers there's nothing really for admins. Plus it looks too simple.
[QUOTE=berdyev;48090755]Yeah.. I definitely do :D Why you ask? lol[/QUOTE] I saw you so happy you were pooping cash. :v: [sp]not that I blame you with how shit R* made GTAO[/sp] But anyway, yeah, think about your server as a community, and nurture it. Invite good sports to stay and encourage fair play.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;48092063]I saw you so happy you were pooping cash. :v: [sp]not that I blame you with how shit R* made GTAO[/sp] But anyway, yeah, think about your server as a community, and nurture it. Invite good sports to stay and encourage fair play.[/QUOTE] What do you mean you saw me pooping cash? Lol. If you're implying to hacks, then it's not me. Other little kids were hacking and spawning money on people. Not that I complain about it, lol. And will do ;) ps: add me on steam, eh?
Modded or unmodded, 1x gather or 20x gather, it doesn't matter. There's always players looking for the type of server you set up. These options do not influence players to use your server over someone else's really. The key is consistency. Don't keep changing options, be on as much as you can and do not 'play' on the server. Dedicate your time to running the server. Some tips: 1) only ban when 100% confident of a hack, never on hearsay no matter how many whine about it. 2) Don't ban people for criticising the server or calling you names. If modded you can mute instead but keep bans for serious shit like hacking, racism etc. 3) Build a good admin team, this is hard. Never ever give admin to someone that asks for it, I find if they are asking then it's because they want the power and a lot will abuse it. Instead get to know your players and often someone will stand out as helpful and likeable. Then approach them and offer them admin but explain it would mean they can no longer play regular on your server. 4) Patience, as already stated this all takes time. Your server will grow week on week with the right attention. 5) Do not be tempted to go into busier servers and try to poach players. Most people think this is shitty and will avoid your server like the plague. If an owner is on when you do this, and it's a big server they are likely to spread the word about you and your server and you may as well cancel it. 6) Follow rust development, know when an issue on your server is a known bug or not etc. 7) Build a persona, let people get to know you. Most rust players know of 'Bugs' from Rustafied, make sure at least on your server your players know you. I had 54,000 unique players through my server in the last 3 months, I know this from the persistence files (before they were moved). Many of these know of me now and I've seen some nice stuff written on other sites. 8) This one I feel is the big kicker... In fact I'm keeping this one to myself, let's just say keep your server up to date and on time... Source - Me, my server was usually the number 1 or 2 non official server listed on Gametracker. We are currently 15th due to moving servers which resets your stats.
[QUOTE=Cheeze;48092630]Modded or unmodded, 1x gather or 20x gather, it doesn't matter. There's always players looking for the type of server you set up. These options do not influence players to use your server over someone else's really. The key is consistency. Don't keep changing options, be on as much as you can and do not 'play' on the server. Dedicate your time to running the server. Some tips: 1) only ban when 100% confident of a hack, never on hearsay no matter how many whine about it. 2) Don't ban people for criticising the server or calling you names. If modded you can mute instead but keep bans for serious shit like hacking, racism etc. 3) Build a good admin team, this is hard. Never ever give admin to someone that asks for it, I find if they are asking then it's because they want the power and a lot will abuse it. Instead get to know your players and often someone will stand out as helpful and likeable. Then approach them and offer them admin but explain it would mean they can no longer play regular on your server. 4) Patience, as already stated this all takes time. Your server will grow week on week with the right attention. 5) Do not be tempted to go into busier servers and try to poach players. Most people think this is shitty and will avoid your server like the plague. If an owner is on when you do this, and it's a big server they are likely to spread the word about you and your server and you may as well cancel it. 6) Follow rust development, know when an issue on your server is a known bug or not etc. 7) Build a persona, let people get to know you. Most rust players know of 'Bugs' from Rustafied, make sure at least on your server your players know you. I had 54,000 unique players through my server in the last 3 months, I know this from the persistence files (before they were moved). Many of these know of me now and I've seen some nice stuff written on other sites. 8) This one I feel is the big kicker... In fact I'm keeping this one to myself, let's just say keep your server up to date and on time... Source - Me, my server was usually the number 1 or 2 non official server listed on Gametracker. We are currently 15th due to moving servers which resets your stats.[/QUOTE] Thank you!
I found pretty good success using things like a website and twitter to keep people up to date. I post shit on twitter when things like patches happen, or server restarts need to happen. On the website I listed all of our admins with links to steam accounts, I give a break down of the server, and provide people with a map. That stuff on top of being active and fair will go a long way. Just a few weeks ago my server was the busiest of all the community server and was within the top 10 of all Rust servers including official :) [url]www.uswest.info[/url] [url]https://twitter.com/Rust_US_West/status/601226972044242944[/url]
[QUOTE=almosttactful;48094754]I found pretty good success using things like a website and twitter to keep people up to date. I post shit on twitter when things like patches happen, or server restarts need to happen. On the website I listed all of our admins with links to steam accounts, I give a break down of the server, and provide people with a map. That stuff on top of being active and fair will go a long way. Just a few weeks ago my server was the busiest of all the community server and was within the top 10 of all Rust servers including official :) [url]www.uswest.info[/url] [url]https://twitter.com/Rust_US_West/status/601226972044242944[/url][/QUOTE] Thank you for input! I will definitely setup a website soon. Twitter? Eh, we'll see.
BUMP, help, BUMP help... hosting form 1 year and still nothing. I m not about money while i can i will do it and will not give up to make the community which i wanted to achieve and do something good for our fucking country where i live and i am out. Tried almost everything i think. I will appreciate every advice and again thanks for help.
Dont bump 3 year old threads, make a new one instead.
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