[QUOTE=BioRisk;43686919]Let's face it, you don't really know what you're talking about, and claim to have 3 wikis, and the knowledge and background to criticize others, but you won't show proof, nor provide and good input. It appears to me, no matter what I do, even if I give away 20000$, you won't like the site. Yes, I used "poop.png". Does it [I]really[/I] matter? Obviously poop.png doesn't exist, even if it did, it would've been a picture of a Wooden Barricade, which is the page I was TESTING on.[B] I never stated the site was[B] DONE [/B]or [I]RELEASED[/I]. [/B]I stated [B][U][I]THIS IS WHAT I AM WORKING ON. THIS IS THE PROGRESS. [/I][/U][/B] You're very crude in your ways. You're trashing my thread consistently because you think it's a bad idea, if you think it's bad, leave the review, and be done. No point in consistently trashing the thread, and as of "Having a piece of the community" What. What do you honestly mean? Is there some unidentified "glory" in owning it?[/QUOTE]
I have no Wikis to show you, but I've used plenty of content management systems in the past and I'm a freelance web designer for small projects here in Las Vegas. The installation process seems pretty standard:
[quote="MediaWiki"]* Check that your system meets the minimum requirements
* Download MediaWiki (direct link to latest version) and extract the archive to a web-accessible folder on your server.
* Point your browser to the directory where MediaWiki was extracted (e.g., [url]http://[domain]/mediawiki/index.php[/url]). If installed on a local machine, replace [domain] with localhost. If installed on a remote server, replace [domain] with your server's domain name (eg: [url]www.myserver.com[/url]).
* Follow the on-screen instructions to complete the process.[/quote]
There's nothing really you have to set up - a lot of the work is done for you. The most difficult part would be theming, but that's not too hard if you're experienced with HTML and CSS.
The reason why I don't like your ideas is because you're bringing nothing new to the table and attempting to divide the community across multiple wikis. It's unnecessary, it's pompous, and it's just a waste of everybody's time.
The fact that you're not willing to admit any fault whatsoever and reflect everything back on us (with abuse of bold, italics, and underlining) leads me to believe that you're too immature and receptive to accomplish much of anything.
Also, I don't care for your filepaths. (although you should be more professional about something you're serving to the community) What bugs me is the fact that you essentially said the following:
"Guys, we're going to be doing something awesome here. I'm going to show you something that will be so grand it'll blow your minds! It's a wiki, which can be found here.
Of course it's a load of junk [b]I'M WORKING ON IT YOU IDIOTS[/b]."
Seriously. Chill out and learn to take some criticism. Sometimes it's going to be harsh and sometimes it might not be what you want, but criticism is an opportunity to improve and you don't want to act out of line towards the people in your target market.
[quote]even if I give away 20000$[/quote]
Now hold on there, buddy. I'll take $20,000 any day.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;43686903]If you're only at the tinkering stage, stop advertising it. It's not ready to show off yet, and if you advertise it, you invite commentary and criticism.
Advertising it means you want people to see it. If you don't want people talking about it, don't show it to us until you're ready.[/QUOTE]
Never said I was showing it off as done, or completed. I asked for suggestions, input, ideas. Etc.
Here's a plan. Take all your written articles and edit the main rust wiki. Make your domain redirect there. Done.
[QUOTE=BioRisk;43692231]Never said I was showing it off as done, or completed. I asked for suggestions, input, ideas. Etc.[/QUOTE]
Suggestions and input that you have [I]ignored[/I] and pouted about. It doesn't really make for a good first impression.
Good luck to you.
[QUOTE=OppositeTalen;43692815]Here's a plan. Take all your written articles and edit the main rust wiki. Make your domain redirect there. Done.[/QUOTE]
But like you and others said. [I]It won't be mine.[/I]
only if -> no ads and optimized for smooth browsing on steam overlay, I can say this might be really good.
don't judge him~
[QUOTE=darth-veger;43681667]Saying it once again, dividing all the knowledge about this game into multiple wiki's is a [B]terrible[/B] idea rather than we all using just one wiki.[/QUOTE]
Why would anyone share shit they really know about this game with other people?
That ruins the entire point of this game.
[QUOTE=anazhd;43698126]only if -> no ads and optimized for smooth browsing on steam overlay, I can say this might be really good.
don't judge him~[/QUOTE]
Careful, they might give you "Constructive Criticism" for that!
[editline]28th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;43692988]Suggestions and input that you have [I]ignored[/I] and pouted about. It doesn't really make for a good first impression.
Good luck to you.[/QUOTE]
Suggestions so far:
Shut down.
Shut down and forward to another wiki.
Shut down and give hard work to another wiki.
See where this is going?
[editline]28th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=anazhd;43698126]only if -> no ads and optimized for smooth browsing on steam overlay, I can say this might be really good.
don't judge him~[/QUOTE]
Ads will be minimal to none, (most likely none until we have to upgrade.)
Steam overlay. What do you mean by that?
*Edit:
Googled, That can be arranged.
[QUOTE=BioRisk;43698485]Suggestions so far:
Shut down.
Shut down and forward to another wiki.
Shut down and give hard work to another wiki.
See where this is going?[/QUOTE]
Nobody is telling you you [B]cannot[/B] do this. However, there usually needs to be a good reason for duplication of work.
I'm not trolling here, I'm genuinely interested to know the answer to this question: What will your wiki do or be that sets it apart from the established Rust wikis already well underway? Or at least, what sort of things do you plan to do?
I'm not expecting ironclad promises, just plans and goals. That's something you haven't particularly communicated, which is why we've been left to assume by default that you're doing it so that your name is attached to the project as founder. If you actually have something to offer the community and your wiki has a unique feature that can't easily be duplicated by the others, then there's some real value in doing it, and you will find support from the people in the community who believe in your project and want to contribute.
But you haven't communicated any of this to us. If you're not sure what you want to do, except that you want to build a wiki for Rust (for non-egotistical reasons, I will assume), and you're still completely in the tinkering phase, then the mistake you made was, basically, telling anyone.
You popped the cork too early. You made this out to be more than it was, whether you intended to or not, by announcing too soon. At least get a handful of articles written to a first-draft standard (i.e., it should be at least "complete" and not end mid-sentence somewhere, even if it does need revisions and is missing information, that's okay), because that gives you something to show to the community, to say, "Hey, here's my project and here's what it's about." That allows people to make a judgement on whether or not they want to buy in.
I'm going to be very blunt, not because I'm trying to insult or hurt you, but because you don't seem to be getting it. Wikiprojects that start with server advertising (your title and this thread count) and style [I]first[/I] and content [I]second[/I] tend to be short-lived, soon-abandoned husks created by attention whores who didn't put much thought into how much work goes into building even a small but stable wiki community. I'm not calling you an attention whore, I'm sure you're a perfectly pleasant and nice person to be around, [B]but this thread is giving off major AW vibes[/B] and I'm not sure if you're aware of that.
If you are committed to this project, my suggestion is that you get your nose into the wiki and start cranking out content. If someone pokes this thread to ask how progress is going, please do tell us about good things you've done with the server (say, migrated it to better hosting or whatever), but the main criteria you should be worrying about is number of articles.
Obviously, if these articles are 5-word stubs, the article count is a worthless metric and you would be setting yourself up for a big problem later when it comes time to show us those 800 articles you wrote in 6 weeks if you were, hypothetically, to try and game this fact. The articles don't have to be perfect, but you want a draft that you're comfortable with showing others -- that quality does take some time, and anyone with sincere interest in the project will understand.
Heh
[QUOTE]-=[ DISCLAIMER ]=-
I am not shutting the site down.
The site is not done, or operable. - Why post it here.
The site will not link to another.
The site is mine and a friends, not yours. - Good luck with having 2000+ articles.
The site is my project, not yours. - Again good luck with getting 2000+ articles alone.
The site is not for sale, or for forwarding.
The site is not "just another wiki" - Yes it is
The site will not be finished over night. - Why post it here.
The site will most likely be pretty cool. - Now you are being a selfish prick[/QUOTE]
You keep defending yourself but even from this "Disclaimer" i can see you being the internet tough guy who has his hands on a dead wiki.
[QUOTE=darth-veger;43699033]Heh
You keep defending yourself but even from this "Disclaimer" i can see you being the internet tough guy who has his hands on a dead wiki.[/QUOTE]
Sigh. Read. Do.
[quote]
Elix, Vager, Wauter, Stop posting in the thread. I get it, you don't like the theme or idea, Stop trashing the entire replies with negative outputs. You're really just harassing at this point.
I know I'm not professional. I know I'm not perfect or "the best" But I can be damn good. And I'll proove it.[/quote]
Stop trashing. The site *is* technically dead, because it was or has not been *alive* yet, because *it* is not up or done or close. Scrub nugget.
[editline]28th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;43698603]Nobody is telling you you [B]cannot[/B] do this. However, there usually needs to be a good reason for duplication of work.
I'm not trolling here, I'm genuinely interested to know the answer to this question: What will your wiki do or be that sets it apart from the established Rust wikis already well underway? Or at least, what sort of things do you plan to do?
I'm not expecting ironclad promises, just plans and goals. That's something you haven't particularly communicated, which is why we've been left to assume by default that you're doing it so that your name is attached to the project as founder. If you actually have something to offer the community and your wiki has a unique feature that can't easily be duplicated by the others, then there's some real value in doing it, and you will find support from the people in the community who believe in your project and want to contribute.
But you haven't communicated any of this to us. If you're not sure what you want to do, except that you want to build a wiki for Rust (for non-egotistical reasons, I will assume), and you're still completely in the tinkering phase, then the mistake you made was, basically, telling anyone.
You popped the cork too early. You made this out to be more than it was, whether you intended to or not, by announcing too soon. At least get a handful of articles written to a first-draft standard (i.e., it should be at least "complete" and not end mid-sentence somewhere, even if it does need revisions and is missing information, that's okay), because that gives you something to show to the community, to say, "Hey, here's my project and here's what it's about." That allows people to make a judgement on whether or not they want to buy in.
I'm going to be very blunt, not because I'm trying to insult or hurt you, but because you don't seem to be getting it. Wikiprojects that start with server advertising (your title and this thread count) and style [I]first[/I] and content [I]second[/I] tend to be short-lived, soon-abandoned husks created by attention whores who didn't put much thought into how much work goes into building even a small but stable wiki community. I'm not calling you an attention whore, I'm sure you're a perfectly pleasant and nice person to be around, [B]but this thread is giving off major AW vibes[/B] and I'm not sure if you're aware of that.
If you are committed to this project, my suggestion is that you get your nose into the wiki and start cranking out content. If someone pokes this thread to ask how progress is going, please do tell us about good things you've done with the server (say, migrated it to better hosting or whatever), but the main criteria you should be worrying about is number of articles.
Obviously, if these articles are 5-word stubs, the article count is a worthless metric and you would be setting yourself up for a big problem later when it comes time to show us those 800 articles you wrote in 6 weeks if you were, hypothetically, to try and game this fact. The articles don't have to be perfect, but you want a draft that you're comfortable with showing others -- that quality does take some time, and anyone with sincere interest in the project will understand.[/QUOTE]
That was longer than my senior english essay.
[editline]28th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;43686240]Still one article. Main page now says it's "beta testing" and threatens vandals with an IP ban.
You know what, BioRisk. I wish you good luck with this project. Because you're going to need a lot of it.
[editline]27th January 2014[/editline]
Playrustwiki has added 8 new articles in the last 9 hours.[/QUOTE]
Rude.
Holy-moly BioRisk, re read what elixwhitetail is trying to tell you, thats some damn fine advise right there for you to read pal. If you're going to put yourself out there in the big bad world, you will receive far harsher crits and far less good advise than you got from just that one post. If you're getting your back up from just this thread, you're not ready to enter the space.
Totally of the topic(sorry OP):
J!nx, your avatar stinks bro, it just STINKS. I've started skipping your posts(which is a pity, coz they're not always bad), I just cant stomach the pure drivel that you shit out onto that space.
I'm really impressed that OP continues to post after four days of not showing any work and getting shit on because of that. Honestly, what reaction did you expect? People usually advertise their ~cool new projects~ when they already have something to show.
Here's a post you made four days ago:
[QUOTE=BioRisk;43646520]I don't plan on making the community do the work, I will be doing alot of the work, I have around 12 articles wrote up as we speak.[/QUOTE]
Paste one of those 12 articles here, let people judge your writing and shit. Come on.
Everyone just leave him be. He doesn't need our help or advice. He's gonna do it his way and he knows what he's doing and we don't.
Especially the way he responded to my post by simply calling it too long, and then he has to dig out a reply of mine that's a day old from earlier in the thread to tell me he thinks it was rude. Clearly, ego is fully engaged and feeling like it's taken a few punches to the solar plexus.
On second thought, everyone, go kill yourselves.
[highlight](User was banned for this post ("Rude" - Craptasket))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;43703286]Everyone just leave him be. He doesn't need our help or advice. He's gonna do it his way and he knows what he's doing and we don't.
Especially the way he responded to my post by simply calling it too long, and then he has to dig out a reply of mine that's a day old from earlier in the thread to tell me he thinks it was rude. Clearly, ego is fully engaged and feeling like it's taken a few punches to the solar plexus.[/QUOTE]
Who are you to say what he does, how he does it, or when it's done?
For all we know his WiKi could shit on everybody else.
But neither of us know that, because we haven't seen it..
You're not helping him with the wiki, so why would he give a shit about you?
(That seemed to have stopped the haters).
Keep it up! I look forward to seeing it come up!
[QUOTE=SgtSinge;43699708]Holy-moly BioRisk, re read what elixwhitetail is trying to tell you, thats some damn fine advise right there for you to read pal. If you're going to put yourself out there in the big bad world, you will receive far harsher crits and far less good advise than you got from just that one post. If you're getting your back up from just this thread, you're not ready to enter the space.
Totally of the topic(sorry OP):
J!nx, your avatar stinks bro, it just STINKS. I've started skipping your posts(which is a pity, coz they're not always bad), [B]I just cant stomach the pure drivel that you shit out onto that space.[/B][/QUOTE]
the hitler shit is just to anger redditors when they called FP Nazi germany, it's mostly a joke
the insults are really just there to be a dildo
also that's very kind of you, thank you.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;43700642]I'm really impressed that OP continues to post after four days of not showing any work and getting shit on because of that. Honestly, what reaction did you expect? People usually advertise their ~cool new projects~ when they already have something to show.
Here's a post you made four days ago:
Paste one of those 12 articles here, let people judge your writing and shit. Come on.[/QUOTE]
I too wish to see his work.
BioRisk, I'm gonna give you one final chance. Since reading is something you seem to need to be paid to do, I'm going to snip everything out of my previous long post and focus on what matters:
[quote]I'm not trolling here, I'm genuinely interested to know the answer to this question: What will your wiki do or be that sets it apart from the established Rust wikis already well underway? Or at least, what sort of things do you plan to do?
I'm not expecting ironclad promises, just plans and goals. That's something you haven't particularly communicated, which is why we've been left to assume by default that you're doing it so that your name is attached to the project as founder. If you actually have something to offer the community and your wiki has a unique feature that can't easily be duplicated by the others, then there's some real value in doing it, and you will find support from the people in the community who believe in your project and want to contribute.
But you haven't communicated any of this to us.[/quote]
If your response is a rehash of this:
[quote]Elix, Vager, Wauter, Stop posting in the thread. I get it, you don't like the theme or idea, Stop trashing the entire replies with negative outputs. You're really just harassing at this point.
I know I'm not professional. I know I'm not perfect or "the best" But I can be damn good. And I'll proove it.[/quote]
[quote]Stop trashing. The site *is* technically dead, because it was or has not been *alive* yet, because *it* is not up or done or close. Scrub nugget.[/quote]
Then I don't know what to tell you because you are refusing all help and advice and unable to tell the difference between good faith help and trolling. That is not a good sign for a fledgling community project.
[QUOTE=BioRisk;43699135]Rude.[/QUOTE]
Treat others like you would like to be treated, dude. He acted like that because you started off that way in the first place.
The advice he gave was good advice - a lot of people make websites and spend forever tweaking the look of things and forget about content. When I say a lot, I really do mean [b]a lot[/b].
If you take a look at one of my favorite writers at [url=http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net]The Best Page in the Universe[/url], you'll see there's barely any real design at all. He's got bright text on a black background, and his pages are simply readable without any extras to the eye. Still, he's got an insane amount of viewers and has maintained them for a couple of decades.
No one's going to look at a website that looks good but offers nothing. Your Wiki offers literally nothing. Even if time passes and it does offer something after all, it sounds like you aren't going to offer anything different. And since you're extremely resistant to advice, I'm going to predict that your Wiki will fail. But if your change your ways, that doesn't have to be the case.
Look, no one cares about what happens with your Wiki. [i]You're[/i] the one who wants to succeed. [i]You're[/i] the one spending time and money on your website. If you're going to be an ass about it, you're going to fail. If you aren't going to listen to anyone, you're going to fail.
You can respond to my post saying, "That was too long so I didn't read," but if you don't care about advice that people are genuinely trying to give you, then your Wiki will soon be forgotten with no one to care but yourself. And that's how a lot of websites go.
So, you can moan and groan, or you can man up, realize your situation, and do something about it.
[QUOTE=t205gorillaz;43703481]Who are you to say what he does, how he does it, or when it's done?
For all we know his WiKi could shit on everybody else.
But neither of us know that, because we haven't seen it..
You're not helping him with the wiki, so why would he give a shit about you?
(That seemed to have stopped the haters).
Keep it up! I look forward to seeing it come up![/QUOTE]
Apparently FP is the home of the wiki gods. Be careful.
[editline]28th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=latin_geek;43700642]I'm really impressed that OP continues to post after four days of not showing any work and getting shit on because of that. Honestly, what reaction did you expect? People usually advertise their ~cool new projects~ when they already have something to show.
Here's a post you made four days ago:
Paste one of those 12 articles here, let people judge your writing and shit. Come on.[/QUOTE]
So you can copy paste to another wiki?
[editline]28th January 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=wauterboi;43704534]Treat others like you would like to be treated, dude. He acted like that because you started off that way in the first place.
The advice he gave was good advice - a lot of people make websites and spend forever tweaking the look of things and forget about content. When I say a lot, I really do mean [b]a lot[/b].
If you take a look at one of my favorite writers at [url=http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net]The Best Page in the Universe[/url], you'll see there's barely any real design at all. He's got bright text on a black background, and his pages are simply readable without any extras to the eye. Still, he's got an insane amount of viewers and has maintained them for a couple of decades.
No one's going to look at a website that looks good but offers nothing. Your Wiki offers literally nothing. Even if time passes and it does offer something after all, it sounds like you aren't going to offer anything different. And since you're extremely resistant to advice, I'm going to predict that your Wiki will fail. But if your change your ways, that doesn't have to be the case.
Look, no one cares about what happens with your Wiki. [i]You're[/i] the one who wants to succeed. [i]You're[/i] the one spending time and money on your website. If you're going to be an ass about it, you're going to fail. If you aren't going to listen to anyone, you're going to fail.
You can respond to my post saying, "That was too long so I didn't read," but if you don't care about advice that people are genuinely trying to give you, then your Wiki will soon be forgotten with no one to care but yourself. And that's how a lot of websites go.
So, you can moan and groan, or you can man up, realize your situation, and do something about it.[/QUOTE]
Never said it [I]wasn't[/I]. I just said it was [I]long[/I].
That is a good point to bring up: What's stopping anyone from copy+pasting your writing to the official Wiki? Seems like you're doomed right from the start.
[quote]
This is already beyond terrible, what 'backend' is there to work on? You are using MediaWiki which is already wrapped in a package, all you need to do is install it.
You could have like, waited with all of this till your wiki was at least done.
Saying it once again, dividing all the knowledge about this game into multiple wiki's is a terrible idea rather than we all using just one wiki.
As it is there are already enough wikis with plenty of content. You're wasting your time.
You know what, BioRisk. I wish you good luck with this project. Because you're going to need a lot of it.
Oh yeah, besides the low article count does his 'team' only exists out of him while the other wiki's have a 5 to 10 person staff team.
Let's face it - you want a piece of the Rust community to yourself, and you're trying to portray this as a big project with words like "back end" and image paths like "poop.png".
I'm trying to help you here.
If you're only at the tinkering stage, stop advertising it. It's not ready to show off yet, and if you advertise it, you invite commentary and criticism.
Advertising it means you want people to see it. If you don't want people talking about it, don't show it to us until you're ready.
Making your own wiki instead of contributing to the established community is a sign that you think you can do better, and that you want your name on it. Especially because you seem to have spent more time on this thread than you have on the wiki.
Here's a plan. Take all your written articles and edit the main rust wiki. Make your domain redirect there. Done.
Suggestions and input that you have ignored and pouted about. It doesn't really make for a good first impression.
Good luck to you.
Why would anyone share shit they really know about this game with other people?
That ruins the entire point of this game.
You keep defending yourself but even from this "Disclaimer" i can see you being the internet tough guy who has his hands on a dead wiki.
I'm really impressed that OP continues to post after four days of not showing any work and getting shit on because of that. Honestly, what reaction did you expect? People usually advertise their ~cool new projects~ when they already have something to show.
Everyone just leave him be. He doesn't need our help or advice. He's gonna do it his way and he knows what he's doing and we don't.
On second thought, everyone, go kill yourselves.
[/quote]
[quote]
Treat others like you would like to be treated, dude. He acted like that because you started off that way in the first place.
[/quote]
Would you like your projects thread responded to like this? Off-topic and trashing?
A lot of that is legit criticism that's harsh but true. They're not off-topic.
[QUOTE=UberMunchkin;43704765]With all due respect man, there are 2 other wikis that right now are both full of information on Rust. With all due respect, the amount of effort it'd take to make another wiki from scratch, then to fill in all of the same information (without plagiarising it or directly copying+pasting everything) doesn't seem worth it man. If you [I]really[/I] are dedicated, and have the motivation to keep on going, well I don't think I could stop you really.[/QUOTE]
if you can't listen to this honest criticism then really, you don't deserve help.
It's already been said to you so many times. You shouldn't need your hand held like this.
Side note: [url]www.PlayRustWiki.com[/url] isn't even online.
It was 30 minutes ago.
[QUOTE=wauterboi;43705113]It was 30 minutes ago.[/QUOTE]
still down
Your defensiveness indicates that you have completely failed to read or understand the point we have been trying to make.
Here's what I want you to do. Prove it. Show us. Right now. You said this [B]five days ago[/B]:
[QUOTE=BioRisk;43646520]I don't plan on making the community do the work, I will be doing alot of the work, I have around 12 articles wrote up as we speak.[/QUOTE]
You said this [B]four days ago[/B]:
[QUOTE=BioRisk;43646728]Haha. It's not gonna happen over night. Obviously. But in comparison to others, my article quality is much higher.[/QUOTE]
Google's Cache scraped a copy of your article on Wood Barricade [B]two days ago[/B]:
[QUOTE]Wood Barricade - The first line of defense!
Wood Barricades are cheap and effective items for starting your first line of defense. They only cost 30 wood, taking only 25 seconds each to craft. You do not need a Wood/Metal Foundation to place them, You may place them almost anywhere they will fit. They are great for blocking off areas of land, or room you do not wish to let other players access. The downside to this is that they're relatively weak. They often break in under 30 hits of a pickaxe. They can also be broken with guns, primarily, the shotgun. Wood Barricades are repairable. Place Wood in your hot-bar, and press the number you placed it in. By default, the barricades last around 5 (real life) days.[/QUOTE]
PlayRustWiki is down right now (hmmm), but Google scraped this copy of their article on Wood Barricade [B]three days ago[/B]:
[t]http://i.imgur.com/GSiH1R7.png[/t]
The image is broken because it's a Google cache, and obviously the stylesheet has not loaded so it looks ugly. But the point here is that it has formatting, a table, and is written in a concise, organized way.
Let's recap: You have 12 articles written that are higher quality than the other wikis.
Based on the evidence above, I'm going to have to call you a liar. The way for you to better your image and the status of your project right now is to [B]write some content[/B].
I don't even care if it's kind of crappy, other people with better grammar and copyediting skills can help with that. Just actually put some text where your mouth is or fuck off.
[QUOTE=BioRisk;43705592]still down[/QUOTE]
Been up for me the whole time you keep saying its down. Maybe they did a block on ya cause they didnt want you stealing the info and claiming it as yours.
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;43705728]
Let's recap: You have 12 articles written that are higher quality than the other wikis.
Based on the evidence above, I'm going to have to call you a liar. The way for you to better your image and the status of your project right now is to [B]write some content[/B].
I don't even care if it's kind of crappy, other people with better grammar and copyediting skills can help with that. Just actually put some text where your mouth is or fuck off.[/QUOTE]
The Wood Barricade article is just a minor outline and, when the website is further progressed, will be edited and met with the amount of content that has been promised. I do agree that at this stage it is a bit lacking but it [I]is[/I] the first few days of the site being online. BioRisk has been trying to get the site up and running for the past few days and hasn't had enough time to dedicate a lot of time to writing articles.
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