[QUOTE=BioRisk;43853958]Stop flamming before you get banned.[/QUOTE]
I'm not even really flaming though
you can't fucking listen
[QUOTE=darth-veger;43646454]Em, the whole reason why wiki's are brought into existence is because [B]you can edit (almost) everything so all articles keep improving.[/B]
So i don't see why we need this because it will contain A LOT less information as the current wiki.[/QUOTE]
If you just listened to the [B]first[/B] post you would have already have ad a TON of content. All you had to do would be to get FP to add some articles but you seem to have said you'd rather a small team of your own choosing.
your "Dedicated team" couldn't even delete a fucking spam page until I told you. Come on.
and then a good poster tells you this
[QUOTE=latin_geek;43662094]The entire point of a wiki is that it's something that anyone can improve and that it can become a decent information hub, that everyone can add to.
Playrustwiki already has a decent userbase, and it's MILES better than most cookiecutter wikia.com garbage wikis. Their advertising is pretty alright and the community that they "shove in your face" is [I]literally a single box in the main page[/I]. You're not showing any of your work so you're not really bringing anything new to the table, and honestly it's pretty shitty that you want to divide information between sites like this.[/QUOTE]
ignored
then this
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;43681484]I'm gonna make a suggestion.
[B]Don't worry about making it pretty[/B] [URL="http://therustwiki.com/index.php/Wood_Barricade"]when your wiki consists of one article[/URL]. [B]Make it work. Then make it pretty.[/B]
You have just spent $2 to give yourself a title advertising a wiki that has one stub of an article on it.
My sincere advice to you if you want this project to actually take off and fly on its own:[B] Focus more on generating content, less on making it really pretty[/B]. You have a long way to go to catch up to Playrustwiki, which has added 38 new articles since this thread was created. (I don't know about the [I]quality[/I] of those articles, but the fact remains that content-wise, there's little reason to go elsewhere.)
If you focus on making it pretty first, you'll have a dead, empty wiki with a really snappy wiki skin. It's happened many times before. I'm not trolling here, I'm 100% serious. You really want to reconsider your current plan of action. People can put up with looking at MediaWiki's default CSS for a while if they care about your project and are dedicated to filling out its content.[/QUOTE]
all the changes I've seen to the wiki have been to make it pretty, yeah it looks cool but it's kinda... useless
IGNORED HIM TOO
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;43686488]This is what I keep saying.[B] BioRisk, you need to work on getting support and momentum behind your project. Right now, you are demonstrating that this is a vanity project. It's about you.[/B]
I want you to listen to me: You need to come up with some compelling reason for people to visit your wiki. There needs to be some unique attribute that your wiki has in order for it to go anywhere. You're attempting to reinvent the wheel when PlayRustWiki already has the whole car built and working fairly well on highways.
If you can't come up with a reason why anyone would want to contribute to building your project from the very start when there is a perfectly good wiki being constantly updated with content and community support, this project [U]will[/U] be an utter failure and you will feel terrible about it. If you can't figure out a way of preventing this future, abort now and save yourself a lot of pain and wasted time.
I'm trying to help you here.
[editline]27th January 2014[/editline]
Oh, therustwiki.com is now serving up completely blank pages. Is this a glitch/maintenance and it'll be fixed soon, or did the plug get pulled?[/QUOTE]
then you make what? Ads on streamers? that's how you get support?
IGNORED
[QUOTE=SgtSinge;43699708]Holy-moly BioRisk, [B]re read what elixwhitetail is trying to tell you, thats some damn fine advise right there for you to read pal. If you're going to put yourself out there in the big bad world, you will receive far harsher crits and far less good advise than you got from just that one post. If you're getting your back up from just this thread, you're not ready to enter the space.[/B]
Totally of the topic(sorry OP):
J!nx, your avatar stinks bro, it just STINKS. I've started skipping your posts(which is a pity, coz they're not always bad), I just cant stomach the pure drivel that you shit out onto that space.[/QUOTE]
IGNORED
[QUOTE=UberMunchkin;43704765]With all due respect man, there are 2 other wikis that right now are both full of information on Rust. With all due respect, the amount of effort it'd take to make another wiki from scratch, then to fill in all of the same information (without plagiarising it or directly copying+pasting everything) doesn't seem worth it man. If you [I]really[/I] are dedicated, and have the motivation to keep on going, well I don't think I could stop you really.[/QUOTE]
he's a pretty smart guy, and hey, maybe a new wiki isn't so bad, but you didn't even respond.
IGNORED
then there's the whole Christianity insensitivity post but whatever
sure a lot of it is "Whats the point", but whats the point?
I've already said this, but there's already 3 wiki's out there.
I enjoy the wiki. Good work.
[QUOTE=J!NX;43854039]I'm not even really flaming though
you can't fucking listen
If you just listened to the [B]first[/B] post you would have already have ad a TON of content. All you had to do would be to get FP to add some articles but you seem to have said you'd rather a small team of your own choosing.
your "Dedicated team" couldn't even delete a fucking spam page until I told you. Come on.
and then a good poster tells you this
ignored
then this
all the changes I've seen to the wiki have been to make it pretty, yeah it looks cool but it's kinda... useless
IGNORED HIM TOO
then you make what? Ads on streamers? that's how you get support?
IGNORED
IGNORED
he's a pretty smart guy, and hey, maybe a new wiki isn't so bad, but you didn't even respond.
IGNORED
then there's the whole Christianity insensitivity post but whatever
sure a lot of it is "Whats the point", but whats the point?
I've already said this, but there's already 3 wiki's out there.[/QUOTE]
Damn son, you mad? You three probably work at or for another wiki, on of ya done stated that...
Why would I accept logic from any of you. it's all either
Stop
Stop and die
Stop and forward to another
cntrl a delete
[editline]10th February 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE=MrDeceptive;43854089]I enjoy the wiki. Good work.[/QUOTE]
Careful, they'll flame you!
But thanks.
[highlight](User was banned for this post ("this isn't 4chan. don't do dumb 'you mad' replies." - postal))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=BioRisk;43854142]Damn son, you mad? You three probably work at or for another wiki, on of ya done stated that...
Why would I accept logic from any of you. it's all either
Stop
Stop and die
Stop and forward to another
cntrl a delete
[editline]10th February 2014[/editline]
Careful, they'll flame you!
But thanks.[/QUOTE]
that isn't what I said, or any of those people said, how dense are you?
you ignored completely a lot of good advice and then additionally ignored every single thing in that post I just made + everything I quoted
you say you aren't an expert and that's fine, but then you're so dead set on doing it 100% your way.
I have been looking at this thread for a while.
It is funny very, to see this.
To be honest, I could see why you would look at these other people hostile because you thinking it will not work.
Then but I see you speaking.
[QUOTE]Stop
Stop and die
Stop and forward to another
cntrl a delete
[/QUOTE]
And I am laughing.
What is more, when I am looking what is on the page things,
in comparison to the other wikipage on Rust with which is supposed to be a concise description.
BioRisk:
[QUOTE]Rust is a Zombie Survival game that will soon, no longer have zombies. Garry Newman, the founder of Facepunch Studios, and the guys who made the game, have announced that they have no intentions of it being a “Zombie Survival” game. [/QUOTE]
PRW:
[QUOTE]Rust is an open world MMO survival game designed by Facepunch Studios. It takes inspiration from games like DayZ, Minecraft, and STALKER.[/QUOTE]
Unless you are to take the advice of people or become better at making something readable not objective, this is going to fall to pieces. This would make a a good clan-community page for the game, not a resource for people playing.
[QUOTE=Aircraft;43854235]BioRisk:
[QUOTE]Rust is a Zombie Survival game that will soon, no longer have zombies. Garry Newman, the founder of Facepunch Studios, and the guys who made the game, have announced that they have no intentions of it being a “Zombie Survival” game.[/QUOTE][/QUOTE]
it sounds like a 12 year olds school project to show "Things I like" to his class
that and the bright red background theme he uses is silly
[editline]9th February 2014[/editline]
I don't even know why anyone should be nice, he doesn't even give real responses to posts in this thread. Thus, fuck his wiki.
[editline]9th February 2014[/editline]
i told him about the unreadable background too and it's still there.
[QUOTE=J!NX;43854258]it sounds like a 12 year olds school project to show "Things I like" to his class
that and the bright red background theme he uses is silly
[editline]9th February 2014[/editline]
I don't even know why anyone should be nice, he doesn't even give real responses to posts in this thread. Thus, fuck his wiki.
[editline]9th February 2014[/editline]
i told him about the unreadable background too and it's still there.[/QUOTE]
On the wiki? Of course it's unreadable.
I made it that way on purpose, I've been working on the wiki css theme.
Again
[I]I Dont have to play by your rules. I don' have to do the steps you three want me to.[/I]
[editline]10th February 2014[/editline]
[QUOTE]Unless you are to take the advice of people or become better at making something readable not objective, this is going to fall to pieces. This would make a a good clan-community page for the game, not a resource for people playing.[/QUOTE]
PRW is wrong, they say "Zombie survival game" [I]when it has no intentions of being that.[/I]
[QUOTE=BioRisk;43854286]On the wiki? Of course it's unreadable.
I made it that way on purpose, I've been working on the wiki css theme.
Again
[I]I Dont have to play by your rules. I don' have to do the steps you three want me to.[/I][/QUOTE]
Who three what? there's like, 7+ people you flat out ignore.
we aren't making rules dude, the first page was just them trying to give you [B][U][I]advice[/I][/U][/B]. ADVICE and SUGGESTIONS to HELP you.
if you can't see this then you are hopelessly lost in your own arrogance. You remind me of a brick wall. Why would anyone want to help you if you can't follow simple instructions?
[QUOTE=BioRisk;43854286]PRW is wrong, they say "Zombie survival game" [I]when it has no intentions of being that.[/I][/QUOTE]
That quote didn't say "Zombie" that she/he just posted now did it?
Let me quote myself:
"You are not being helpful."
[quote]
This is already beyond terrible, what 'backend' is there to work on? You are using MediaWiki which is already wrapped in a package, all you need to do is install it.
You could have like, waited with all of this till your wiki was at least done.
Saying it once again, dividing all the knowledge about this game into multiple wiki's is a terrible idea rather than we all using just one wiki.
As it is there are already enough wikis with plenty of content. You're wasting your time.
You know what, BioRisk. I wish you good luck with this project. Because you're going to need a lot of it.
Oh yeah, besides the low article count does his 'team' only exists out of him while the other wiki's have a 5 to 10 person staff team.
Let's face it - you want a piece of the Rust community to yourself, and you're trying to portray this as a big project with words like "back end" and image paths like "poop.png".
I'm trying to help you here.
If you're only at the tinkering stage, stop advertising it. It's not ready to show off yet, and if you advertise it, you invite commentary and criticism.
Advertising it means you want people to see it. If you don't want people talking about it, don't show it to us until you're ready.
Making your own wiki instead of contributing to the established community is a sign that you think you can do better, and that you want your name on it. Especially because you seem to have spent more time on this thread than you have on the wiki.
Here's a plan. Take all your written articles and edit the main rust wiki. Make your domain redirect there. Done.
Suggestions and input that you have ignored and pouted about. It doesn't really make for a good first impression.
Good luck to you.
Why would anyone share shit they really know about this game with other people?
That ruins the entire point of this game.
You keep defending yourself but even from this "Disclaimer" i can see you being the internet tough guy who has his hands on a dead wiki.
I'm really impressed that OP continues to post after four days of not showing any work and getting shit on because of that. Honestly, what reaction did you expect? People usually advertise their ~cool new projects~ when they already have something to show.
Everyone just leave him be. He doesn't need our help or advice. He's gonna do it his way and he knows what he's doing and we don't.
On second thought, everyone, go kill yourselves.
Treat others like you would like to be treated, dude. He acted like that because you started off that way in the first place.
[/quote]
[QUOTE=BioRisk;43854340]Let me quote myself:
"You are not being helpful."[/QUOTE]
that's funny because the wiki isn't actually a wiki if it doesn't even have any content. I know it's still WIP but there should be way more pages by now.
I've been posting here for 8 years now, I know that when they try and help you, they mean it, and will be friendly.
I'm trying to be harsh because maybe then you'll listen for like, what, [I]once?[/I] but personally I'm not really expecting anything.
...or maybe if you just understood that there are already 3 others [B]full[/B] of info...
Oh, boy, quote mining. All I need is strawmanning and creating sockpuppets and I'll have a bingo on my official Facepunch Shitposter Bingo Card™.
[QUOTE=J!NX;43854353]that's funny because the wiki isn't actually a wiki if it doesn't even have any content
I've been posting here for 8 years now, I know that when they try and help you, they mean it, and will be friendly.
I'm trying to be harsh because maybe then you'll listen for like, what, [I]once?[/I] but personally I'm not really expecting anything.[/QUOTE]
It's fine, keep my thread at the top, you're actually helping me!
[QUOTE=BioRisk;43854361]It's fine, keep my thread at the top, you're actually helping me![/QUOTE]
When people see actually how dense you are I really doubt that.
again, until I said something, you couldn't even remove a spam page. What happens when it gets popular? god forbid if that ever happens. How are you going to compete with the other wikis when you only have a very limited tiny amount of helpers?
You remind me of Chris Chan. In your head, All the trolls are helping you but all the people that wanted to truly help you are trolls.
[editline]10th February 2014[/editline]
also where the hell does PRW say it's a zombie game anyways?
Out of morbid curiosity I decided to take a look at this wiki. You have an unprotected main page with what looks like Russian Fanfiction on it, and a color scheme that is nauseating. I clicked the random page button about 10 times and only got the main page, and a page with a broken table about ammo. So, you have a wiki that apparently contains two pages, with no available way to view anything else.
How is this in any way legible?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/9ZYDWl0.png[/img]
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;43854493]Out of morbid curiosity I decided to take a look at this wiki.
So you have an unprotected main page with what looks like Russian Fanfiction on it, and a color scheme that is nauseating. I clicked the random page button about 10 times and only got the main page, and a page with a broken table about ammo.
So, you have a wiki that apparently contains two pages, with no available way to view anything else.
Wat.[/QUOTE]
Exactly.
As stated many times -- It's not done, I'm working on it.
[IMG]http://gyazo.com/e0da3aca3dfb0f683e748b7c973d9cc3.png[/IMG]
So you have no content besides Russian fanfiction?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/7Jj3LEm.png[/img]
Can I make two suggestion?
Drop the colour scheme. To be blunt... Well, I'm not sure you would like what I have to say about it.
Second, and I know you will hate this, take some of the suggestions of the other people in the thread. They are level-headed and helpful responses that only became more heated when you snapped back at them. Your wiki simply will not succeed on its current route.
[QUOTE]~hellish screencaps~[/QUOTE]
Oh god, my retinas.
[QUOTE=Zephyrs;43854540]So you have no content besides Russian fanfiction?
[img]http://i.imgur.com/7Jj3LEm.png[/img][/QUOTE]
Jajaja thats actually serbian.
And I think somebody here tried to use google translate.
Google translating it to English makes it look like some cliff notes for a movie plot.
Either way, he doesn't even have basic automated countermeasures to spam. I'd be willing to explain how, but I really don't think he would listen.
[QUOTE=Ogopogo;43854545]Can I make two suggestion?
Drop the colour scheme. To be blunt... Well, I'm not sure you would like what I have to say about it.
Second, and I know you will hate this, take some of the suggestions of the other people in the thread. They are level-headed and helpful responses that only became more heated when you snapped back at them. Your wiki simply will not succeed on its current route.[/QUOTE]
he's not going to listen you know
[I]he's a strong, independent man and he doesn't follow YOUR rules!!![/I]
[QUOTE=J!NX;43854594]he's not going to listen you know
[I]he's a strong, independent man and he doesn't follow YOUR rules!!![/I][/QUOTE]
[quote]If you aren't in support of the site, hit "Disagree" or "Dumb" and be on with it.
Stop trashing the thread with useless comments.
If you don't like it. Don't post. The thread will die.
But, if you have some ideas, or useful input, go ahead and post.
If you do not like the idea, please stop posting in the thread. I get it, you don't like the theme or idea, Stop trashing the entire replies with negative outputs. You're really just harassing at this point.
I know I'm not professional. I know I'm not perfect or "the best" But I can be damn good. And I'll proove it.
If you have some actually input, post it.
Seriously, Stop trashing, IF you don't like it, DONT post![/quote]
hahahahahahaha this guy
[B]this guy[/B]
Guys, just leave him alone. He can't tell the difference between constructive criticism and trolling.
That does not bode well for the steward of a wiki project, but let him discover things the hard way on his own.
I have never seen a worse thread than this. Stop posting bio or you're going to dig yourself deeper.
Looks good buddy.
[url]http://www.therustwiki.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:RecentChanges&limit=500&days=30[/url]
site is going great!
Jesus christ that red background actually hurts to look at.
What happened, BioRisk? Why have you not done anything since you broke the actual link to the wiki from the Wordpress template on February 16th?
Congratulations on 64,000 views, though.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/8apk9yu.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=elixwhitetail;44250094]What happened, BioRisk? Why have you not done anything since you broke the actual link to the wiki from the Wordpress template on February 16th?
Congratulations on 64,000 views, though.
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/8apk9yu.png[/IMG][/QUOTE]
Meh, Just going to remove the wiki part of the wiki, started coding for other things, cruel peoples.
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