If you are in your base/shelter area, you can pvp. If you see someone aiming a weapon at you, you can pvp. If you are in a rad town or any public loot area (2 tanks, rad town, cement shelters with loot), you can pvp. If you randomly kill a person and he doesn't complain or press charges, you can pvp. If there is a clan battle or two different groups openly in a dispute, they can pvp and KOS with each other until they reach an agreement. But they cannot kill innocent players just playing the game to gather, build, and be a part of a trading/friendly community.
It's as passive aggressive as the idea that soldiers can kill, people can defend themselves and their property, but you can't randomly go out and shoot innocent people in the face and not get arrested. It's much more realistic than death match and respawning at your sleeping bag next to a box with your other 10 guns and 250 Ammos. Just think though, as an atheist that knows everything, and you can be wrong about something as simple as this? Imagine everything else you are wrong about.
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Move on to another thread to spread the gospel. Our server is [B] as advertised[/B]. The sheep don't need you to "lead them into the light" here.
[quote]No bandit will play on that server because of all the safeguards against it. LOL who wants to sit in a 1x1 room for an hour just because they kill 1 person or many people? LOL pretty much nobody and that's exactly what your server is going to be. The only people that will do it might be griefers, exploiters and hackers because they know they can get back out again. [/quote]
See we do think a lot alike! Because the bandits will play on servers that better suit them, which is why we explained what our server was about on page 1. Impressive, you really do know it all, you just don't know better.
Thanks for your input!
[QUOTE=thelionnessa;44590202]If you are in your base/shelter area, you can pvp. If you see someone aiming a weapon at you, you can pvp. If you are in a rad town or any public loot area (2 tanks, rad town, cement shelters with loot), you can pvp. If you randomly kill a person and he doesn't complain or press charges, you can pvp. If there is a clan battle or two different groups openly in a dispute, they can pvp and KOS with each other until they reach an agreement. But they cannot kill innocent players just playing the game to gather, build, and be a part of a trading/friendly community.
It's as passive aggressive as the idea that soldiers can kill, people can defend themselves and their property, but you can't randomly go out and shoot innocent people in the face and not get arrested. It's much more realistic than death match and respawning at your sleeping bag next to a box with your other 10 guns and 250 Ammos. Just think though, as an atheist that knows everything, and you can be wrong about something as simple as this? Imagine everything else you are wrong about.
:(
Move on to another thread to spread the gospel. Our server is [B] as advertised[/B]. The sheep don't need you to "lead them into the light" here.
See we do think a lot alike! Because the bandits will play on servers that better suit them, which is why we explained what our server was about on page 1. Impressive, you really do know it all, you just don't know better.
Thanks for your input![/QUOTE]
That's not PVP lol. You are simply an idiot. That's defending yourself. You can shoot at people. That doesn't make the server PVP. IF someone kills another person to KOS, then you jail them. That's not PVP. PVP is player versus player. It means NO PENALTIES For killing another person. Stop making excuses.
A public loot area? So if i see someone looting I can KOS? LOL that's still KOS. LOL did i make you rethink your position or what. Well at least its something.
So i can randomly kill a person in a loot area and he can complain to get his stuff back or to keep me from taking it? That's player hand holding and its not PVP. Ultimately if someone has "good loot" all they're gonna do is abuse the system and complain basically putting me in jail for killing them. It makes no sense and in the end it just forces PVE. You can dance all you want around it, but you fail to make any good argument for it. Hand holding the players who simply dont want to lose the stuff they just got is stupid and will be abused.
You want players to KOS if they are friendly about it firstly? Again whats to stop them from abusing it? Nothing in reality. It will simply be used for players to keep the stuff that was looted from them. But it's silly anyways. The whole point of the game is to KOS on demand, and raid when you feel like it. No one is going to choose to PVP while out farming, so therefore there never will be any outside of raiding. But wait...there is no C4 so you can't do anything meaningful to anyone anyways. Again you shut down PVP because the only way into a persons house is through the door, which can be lock picked according to you. Therefore the person coming in will simply be mowed down instantly. And whats to stop the person on the other side from crying to the admin to stop it? Oh that's right, nothing.
People defending themselves is exactly what this game is supposed to be, not an admin holding their hands because they want the game to ultimately be PVE, and not PVP. Go PVP or turn it off entirely. Anything else just doesn't work and ends up being either full PVP or full PVE.
I can randomly go out and kill people all the time. The fact is I can also shoot the cops who come to my door. But in reality ill probably get shot myself. What doesn't happen is a person warping me to a jail for 1 hour just so i can go out and do it again. That's nonsense. If you really wanted to stop it, you'd ban them from the server. But the only people who will end up playing are the PVE types anyways, so no one else will join the server due to the community of players you have currently. You simply dont understand that part of this game is PVP and KOS.
So you want realism? Death match is far more realistic than warping players to a jail. Respawning is not realistic? Neither is warping players to a jail. Your argument holds no water. If you want a real system, find the bandit and kill him. That's at least as real as it can get. Your just making excuses by using one system to justify another.
Is this game unbalanced? yes. Is it fair ppl stockpile guns? No. This game is in alpha stage. If you think your "solution" will last forever, it wont. They will probably make changes to balance the game the way it should be.
Ah i was right you are a theist. This makes sense.
And i'm not wrong about this at all. You simply dont know what you're talking about.
Again you make the server that is so anti bandit you will never see a PVP element on it at all, a side from the "dueling" (which is all you have basically..players agree to PVP w/ one another) system you advocate now.
I'm just sorry you hate taking criticism so badly.
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I played on this server last night and it is actually set up very well. Everyone I ran across was friendly enough and it is actually more of a challenge to survive. The idea, as far as I can tell, is to try to cut down on just random killing without a reason to. The main challenge is that you have to cooperate with other survivors if you want to survive. It is definitely not a server that everyone will be able to enjoy but it is a break from the constant KOS you find on other servers. If you aren't going to be playing on this server than why do you care about how it is set up? If you don't agree with what has been said then just ignore it and move on. Also on an unrelated note, attacking someone over the internet over their religious views and then calling them an idiot is just childish.
To sum it all up, if you don't like the way the server is set up then simply don't play on it and move onto a server that fits your play style.
Played on the server a little bit by now (approx 3 or 4 hours) My inventory is full, i dont have ahouse. Just got 20k cash and dont have the blueprints for a house lol :<
Ah yeah, me and a friend of mine met NoobSaibot. He attacked us, after we had killed him 2 times he ragequitted lol
[QUOTE=zoidberg42;44590547]I played on this server last night and it is actually set up very well. Everyone I ran across was friendly enough and it is actually more of a challenge to survive. The idea, as far as I can tell, is to try to cut down on just random killing without a reason to. The main challenge is that you have to cooperate with other survivors if you want to survive. It is definitely not a server that everyone will be able to enjoy but it is a break from the constant KOS you find on other servers. If you aren't going to be playing on this server than why do you care about how it is set up? If you don't agree with what has been said then just ignore it and move on. Also on an unrelated note, attacking someone over the internet over their religious views and then calling them an idiot is just childish.
To sum it all up, if you don't like the way the server is set up then simply don't play on it and move onto a server that fits your play style.[/QUOTE]
Survival is easy. It's just time consuming. Those that think it's hard just don't have enough hours under their belt to realize that this game is challenging in the PVP aspect, not the survival aspect. All you have to do is stay away from the bears, wolves, and rad animals. The rest is a matter of simply not tripping any nearby mobs.
I don't actually have to cooperate w/ anyone to survive the environment itself. I have never had to cooperate to survive on any server ive joined aside from trading people a few things. Do you have any idea how easy it is to survive in this games environment (im not talking about PVP here, just PVE)? You have to be joking me. Surivival, as ive mentioned, is easy. It's only noobs that think its hard. LOL killing a deer isn't exactly challenging by any means. The only challenge (if you can call it that, its more of an annoyance) is spam farming animals so you can actually enjoy building, which is what the game is meant for. The admin has simply made it so that being a bandit is pointless by basically putting up safeguards everywhere.
Im sure it is a break from KOS. I have never said it isn't. The point is it isn't PVP. It's PVE. Ill bet people try to kill others, but with this "jail" system in place it's really not something that will ever last. PVP is basically indirectly turned off.
I dont care how it is set up. But i dont call it for what it is not. It ISN'T a pvp server. It is a PVE server. Neither is it "hardcore". It's simply and stupidly makes all the drops rare, aside from the few it allows (which are silly to bandit with) and makes you farm animals for days just to get a real gun, and/or upgrade to build a house. So if your bag is wasting time in a meaningless and amazingly simple game mode, then feel free to do so.
If i dont agree, i can either ignore it and move on or criticize the person. That's my choice, not yours.
I call people how i see it. She is a naive person to say the least. And the religious bit is simply a statement about her reasoning, not an attack on her character. I just find many religious people to reason the way she does because most religionists victimize themselves and enjoy it.
So to sum this up, I will not play on this server. It is too boring and far too easy. There is just no challenge. Farming and selling is all there is to do. And w/o the PVP, it's nothing. This game has been reduced to minecraft.
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