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That pictures are the reality when Hamas decides it's time to fuck the economy yet again and start yet another conflict which results in shit like what you displayed.
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[QUOTE=starpluck;22298186] And yet "Israel is surrounded by countries wanting to destroy it!!11"[/QUOTE] Was surrounded. Up until other Arab nations decided that this war is pointless. [editline]12:41PM[/editline] [QUOTE=Hoffa1337;22298196]Can't we keep this discussion...
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[QUOTE=Hoffa1337;22298170][url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007%E2%80%932010_blockade_of_the_Gaza_Strip[/url][/QUOTE] Oh wow, even Egypt is blocking them, we shall condemn Egypt for not supporting and help Arabs in Gaza! FUCK EGYPT AND THEY'RE SIEGE ON GAZZA FUUUUUUUCK THE...
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[QUOTE=starpluck;22298135]United Nations.[/QUOTE] Again, nice way of avoiding the actual question. Congrats, you're slowly showing how stupid you are.
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[QUOTE=Mr. Scorpio;22298123]Yes, and the total amount is exactly one quarter of what they need. We've gone over this.[/QUOTE] Maybe you can post a link where Hamas themselves say that they don't have enough food or anything similar? Would be great.
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[QUOTE=starpluck;22298041]Legal blockades are protected by laws, illegal isn't.[/QUOTE] Nice way of avoiding the actual question, idiot.
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What's the difference between a "legal" blockade and a "illegal" blockade? How can you determine whether a blockade is legal or not? This questions are a mystery to me.
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[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22297964]Crhem, the Gaza blockade is considered illegal by many countries because they claim it's not doing its goal of reducing the Hamas' influence, and instead only hurting innocent civilians. Nevertheless I don't think it matters if the blockade is ill...
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[QUOTE=starpluck;22297919]All those reputable news organizations are more credible then Wikipedia, I can make a new map right now and upload it. Accept it.[/QUOTE] That map was uploaded in April 2008, the one from Wikipedia. Obviously it's not biased or anything. There is n...
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[QUOTE=starpluck;22297902]Hate to say it boy. But it’s an illegal blockade, it doesn’t matter.[/QUOTE] Hate to say it, but what the fuck is "illegal blockade"? There is no such thing, a conflict is a conflict. If Hamas didn't post a threat to Israel, there wouldn't be any b...
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[QUOTE=booster;22297470]Well the mob on the boat did beat the soldiers with some sort of metal weapon, so I guess they shot in self-defense. But what the hell were the soldiers doing on international waters anyways?[/QUOTE] Not allowing a ship to pass onto a port which is u...
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[QUOTE=Brage Nyman;22286586]And it was pretty stupid by israel to attack them on international water when they even had white flags.[/QUOTE] You're so naive... The IDF mission was get the ships to Ashdod port so they would be checked and then all humanitarian aid moved to G...
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Fun fact that only one of the 5 ships resisted. Everybody in the other ships peacefully agreed to be moved to Ashdod and from there be sent back to their respective. Actually, some citizens that were aboard the ship have already been sent back to their respective countries. A...
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BurnEmDown - he doesn't live in Israel, how do you think he has any idea what's going on here? I've lived in Israel for 9 years, I'm pretty sure I know better how Arabs are treated and how normal, civilized Arabs treat Jews (or just other Israelis).
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They aren't recognized politically even now, why does it even matter?
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Well there was never a country called "Gaza" or "West Bank" or "The Palestinian state" or whatever. It was either the British mandate of Palestine, which was pretty huge, or Egypt/Jordan OR Israel. So no matter what, they never had an independent country.
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[QUOTE=archangel125;22282829][url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZenysNLAfc8[/url][/QUOTE] "Reports say up to 20". Everyone can say what they want. The IDF have actual control on the ship, I'm pretty sure they know how to count.
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[QUOTE=Keeshond v2;22282785]Israel is hurting a civilian population, starving men, women and children to hurt an army that is a minority inside that population. I'm sure if israel started a fight with a country that beat it and put a blockade up around it, making sure only...
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[QUOTE=archangel125;22282760]19 civilians dead now.[/QUOTE] According to who? 20 civilians are injured.
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According to last news, 9 civilians are dead. 7 IDF soldiers are injured. IDF soldiers themselves say "We used live weapons only after we were attack", "We were surprised by the aggression." The IDF started an investigation on what happened and why.
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[QUOTE=starpluck;22282559]How the hell is that even a comparison. Israel has prided itself for 5 years saying that gave Gazans independence and sovereignty, we all know this is a bullshit illusion.[/QUOTE] It's Arabs (or Palestinians, how you want it) first of all, not "...
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[QUOTE=Jund;22282466]Well then why was it so fucking hard to do it again?[/QUOTE] Again, even the Israeli news agencies accept that this mission was a complete failure. Yes they achieved what they wanted, but how it was done was terrible.
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[QUOTE=Keeshond v2;22282461]israel has no fucking right to blockade another country and decide what goes in and what goes out.[/QUOTE] Wow, you're really that stupid? If you say that, then you can also say "The Arabs have no right to start a war!". A war is a war, it's a...
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[QUOTE=NoDachi;22282407][b]It's not Israel's jurisdiction.[/b] Why do you think this has been heavily condemned by everyone.[/QUOTE] It's heavily condemned by everyone because people were injured and died. Something similar already happened two years ago, but that time ...
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[QUOTE=NoDachi;22282332][b]They deserved that[/b]. They're foreign invaders.[/QUOTE] No, they're trying to access a port which is IN ACTIVE BLOCKADE. How the fuck can you not understand this?
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[QUOTE=starpluck;22282307]It wasn't paintballs, paintballs don't kill. Israeli commandos fired before entering the ship. The activists got ready to defend themselves. Even if they didn't fire before hand, going into someones ship in international waters is as illegal as stormi...
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There: [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo[/media] Obviously, lethal force was needed. They were being beaten to death and thrown overboard. One of the soldiers was lucky enough to save himself by drawn a sidearm and shooting all the surrounding attackers in the...
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Wow, you're so misinformed by all the news around the world, it's terrible. I hope the IDF uploads the videos shown on Israeli news to Youtube quickly. You'll see how it really happens. Obviously, if I said it you'd say bullshit and such, pointless.
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[QUOTE=starpluck;22282113]The boat raised a white flag and told Israel that they will not use violence and what not. A previous video showed shot crewmen on deck, then later, Israeli soldiers dropped down into the ship. After being attacked previously, the crewmen bared themse...
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I looked at that video, BurnEmDown, and haven't found the point were shots were fired either.
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I was talking about this: [QUOTE=Hoffa1337;22280732]This is not hebrewpunch. Google translation:[/QUOTE]
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Wow, that's a surprisingly accurate translation, kudos to Google Translate.
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[QUOTE=starpluck;22280612]I think that guy is an IDF solider. I debated with a real IDF solider less then a year ago, and beat him :D[/QUOTE] No snips here mate.
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[QUOTE=starpluck;22280572][media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y61RAP4joWU[/media] ?[/QUOTE] No fucking shit, smartass. Of course there will be people that helped, after all, they are our brothers, even if must Jews don't like this. Besides, there were even Nazi soldiers th...
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[QUOTE=Dolton;22280409]US Navy SEALS? My uncle is one and he is stationed there :ohdear:[/QUOTE] No, the IDF have their own special division for this. Trust me, the IDF are just as advanced as the US army, if not more in some aspects.
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[QUOTE=lazyguy;22280287]That's bullshit and you know it. Arabs have been discriminated against since Israel was created. You don't need to set up Nazi citizenship laws to let Jews into your country.[/QUOTE] IMO this is offtopic, but just so you'd know, Jews were discrimin...
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[QUOTE=NoDachi;22280169]Because if you knew anything about Maritime Law, the ship was flagged to Turkey, and thus under the jurisdiction of Turkey. The Israeli attack on the ship was a flout of Sovereignty and it's passengers were in every right legally to resist foreign aggre...
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[QUOTE=BurnEmDown;22280082]Don't count on Israeli sources, even if they're true, as long as the same things aren't reported in international news, people here won't believe it as credible source (and neither should you). I thought the whole point was to give supplies to...
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According to last news, there were members of an aggressive Turkish organization on board the ship, which doesn't have to do anything with humanitarian aid. They were only on the main ship, thus being the most problematic. The other ships weren't nearly as problematic because ...
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[QUOTE=Taggart;22279787]Oh I'm sorry that I'm ignorant for smelling some bullshit am I anti-sematic too? There is no way to comprehend the stupidity of the boarding crews, how could they expect to NOT BE ATTACKED[/QUOTE] Stop with this "anti-Semitic" bullshit. I d...
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[QUOTE=Taggart;22279662]Your entire post smells like bullshit, tbh[/QUOTE] tbh your ignorance is smells like cowshit. Before boarding the ship the IDF used stun grenades and other non-lethal and non-damaging weapons, but failed. When they started the actual boarding, they wer...
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[QUOTE=Ryxypo;22279628]This time only? Come on.[/QUOTE] Other times weren't stupid and pointless like this. Other times IDF's action made sense and were explainable. This - this is just as low as it gets, really. I hope the people that were responsible for this will be f...
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[QUOTE=Ryxypo;22279571]It always is when Israel is involved.[/QUOTE] No, not really. Just it's this time when they went too far by miles.
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BurnEmDown - לצערי הפעם באמת צהל הלכו רחוק מיידי.... אין ממש מ...
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