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[QUOTE=TippZ;22236381]I like <---- Don't kill me...[/QUOTE] [img_thumb]http://mangacast.net/manga/MangaCast/Comiket/doujin/GunsAmmo/HaruHitler_Gun2.JPG[/img_thumb] [url="http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_uvwtRg58-_8/SgZUqAlBBRI/AAAAAAAAAnc/Eq6L4TyLlqE/s320/suzumiya_haruhi_09p.png...
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Well there does seem to be a lot of the same actors doing a lot of stuff over there, but is it really any different from say Tom Cruise being at least 35 different action heroes?
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When my post directly precedes yours you don't have to quote it you know. Yeah I do like realistic style too, but I wouldn't call it abnormal, and the "gritty" and "goth" parts are as much a part of the style as the "realistic" part.
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[QUOTE=Metzgemeist;22229154]Everyone hates it because of shitty shows like Naruto, One Piece, FLCL, Boondocks, and all that other happy horseshit. I can only watch three series. Namely Ghost in the Shell, Ergo Proxy, and Claymore.(All of which include no holds barred action, ...
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The wonderful world of geeky obsession.
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Stop! Hold on a second. Don't pull out examples and start picking them apart, that leads nowhere, see what happened when I mentioned Haruhi? Yeah, doesn't really work out. Instead I think dgg should elaborate on his viewpoint of genericness. So far it is very blanket and wel...
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People generally don't know how to conduct a discussion. If you do and they don't I'd say it's largely your responsibility to create an environment in which their ignorance becomes workable.
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[QUOTE=dgg;22179927]Utter crap. 1/10 Really horrible. 2/10 Very bad. 3/10 Bad. 4/10 Meh. 5/10 Kinda good. 6/10 Good. 7/10 Very good. 8/10 Great. 9/10 Excellent. 10/10[/QUOTE] The problem is you can't pull a numerical listing out of your ass like that and expect peo...
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That's often a problem- articulating thoughts, or feelings rather, can be a very difficult excersize. Cut them some slack, show you're open and push some buttons to make them do it. It's hard but it's possible. But denying their opinions validity is the number one way to get p...
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Anything other than great means shit relative to great. That's why you have a dichotomy between good and great at all.
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[QUOTE=dgg;22179700]I could very well understand the exact same thing other people understand and still dislike it. That's what taste is all about. Reacting differently towards the exact same thing with the exact same understanding of it.[/QUOTE] Bullshit. The reason you ha...
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[QUOTE=dgg;22179402]Uh... No. I still follow that guideline. My taste just differ highly from the norm. Like Miyazaki movies are praised in the sky by anime lovers and haters alike. And I sit there and don't understand shit of why these generic children movies are getting a...
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Yeah well, obviously at some point it went beyond that.
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[QUOTE=dgg;22179251]Also most shows are just re-hashes of the same old shit over and over again, the main reason I adored anime in the start was that it was something new unlike live-action movies and TV shows from our western culture which was just re-hashes of the same shit....
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Strange, you haven't started talking about diapers yet.
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[QUOTE=dgg;22177284]It mocks it in a way that also makes it use it seriously to attract viewers. It's more of a "We need this shit, but we know it's shit. How do we use it whilst making it obvious that we know it is shit?" Philosophically interesting and inspiring in what w...
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Look I just brought up pilots as a general example of an episode you could judge a show from. It doesn't have to be a pilot. You don't have to start taking anything I mention as the absolute guide for what to discuss. Diapers.
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Of course you could always happen to misjudge a show based on some shitty episode, that can happen. No bid deal really, however it's unlikely the variance is at all big enough for that to happen. The base direction and style can still shine through in the shittiest of episodes.
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[QUOTE=Ldesu;22171391]I am sure that most people judge a whole anime from watching the first episode then backing up their stupid arguments by "I've seen it myself :colbert:"[/QUOTE] That's not unreasonable though, if you see a pilot of a show and it's a terrible pilot c...
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I have seen some of it, that is what I'm making my judgements from. There's a basis for my dislike here.
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Well then tell me why it is good then, I am open to that. The point is don't dislike animé because it is anime, dislike it because it is bad animé. Hellsing seems to fall in the bad category.
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Most vampire movies I've seen portrayed vampires entirely reasonably, except van helsing which is basically the cgi fuckfest version of hellsing it seems.
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[QUOTE=Drasnus;22171140]Oh the irony.[/QUOTE] How so?
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Don't really think Hellsing is all that good, it seems to be just pointless gorefesting while that one guy goes "raaa I am count dracula! I mean alucard! My power level is over 9000, now behold as I unleash 10% OF IT! Raaar" Then again I have barely seen any of it so whatever....
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The one concession I do make is that there seems to be copious amounts of fanservice all over this shit, but eh, it's aimed at teenagers most of it so whatever. I don't really approve of censoring of or not including sexual content simply because it is sexual. If they want to ...
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Yeah it's completely mainstream I am aware, and as I said that gives me a glimmer of hope that the world isn't populated exclusively by drooling idiots. I didn't draw it out as anything more than an example of how different the styles in animé could be, but TH89 kept poking at...
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[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;22170451]That is blind love There is no mistaking it. TmoSH was good but it wasn't great.[/QUOTE] Are you kidding? It makes a mockery of everything from literature to the shitty animé stereotypes to the very foundation of fiction itself all the while pla...
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Yeah yeah alien is interesting, different is wonderful. In the end, Haruhi is a good show and that won't change even after the rosey tint goes away. And it won't make Dragonball and Naruto any better.
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Considering the length of this thing I wouldn't be surprised if it's the same thread. :v:
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[QUOTE=dgg;22169826]Extraordinarily good? Ehh... I'll forgive you since your new to anime. People that are new to anime and like it tend to go hardcore into the "love makes blind" thing. I was there once myself, so yeah.[/QUOTE] Yeah, extraordinarily good. I'm not sure where ...
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[QUOTE=dgg;22169826]If you want something to watch at, take this and skip to 4:50 (nothing really happens before that) [url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7F0eiLvoWrc[/url][/QUOTE] Oh yeah just go right ahead and link to the fucking ending, bravo.
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And what makes you think I'd have more luck than you in finding that? :v:
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Because the stupid ending song they can sell a few hundred thousand CD's of has everything to do with the quality of the writing. As a disclaimer this is a personal opinion, but I'd argue the stupid song is is part of the genius.
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Also, Hare Hare Yukai has pretty much zilch to do with anything. It's a stupid song, so what? [sp]Do kinda like the melody though... catchy- duuu do do dooo, da di da di da di doo di daaa[/sp]
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Yeah, yeah Dragonball and Naruto sucks, I know. It's not like every piece of western animation is a glimmering example of great writing. In fact as you may recall a lot of stupid shit is always popular.
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I already talked about the hair- I can't believe you are so blind you can even compare the two styles-, I really cannot comment on voicework because I honestly have very little idea what is considered normal in japanese, and my only reference for pokemon is the local dub. I d...
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He's just regurgitating previous preconceived misjudgements again, I already addressed most of them. The whole prior discussion doesn't suddenly cease to exist just because he repeats himself. I tell him he is completely wrong and it should be obvious from the context why. If ...
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Now you're just plain lying again. I could adress each point and everything but it's much easier to say you're just wrong. Saves time.
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I don't really think it's more trope heavy, there are lots of fairly common themes and tropes in western animation too, some even extends to all forms of storytelling across all cultures no matter what they are, it's just more apparent with anime because there's a slighty diff...
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Yeah I guess it pretty much is, but of course it has come to mean Japanimation or simply using the stereotypic style. (Protip: Animation = Cartoon, just a fancy word because obviously cartoons can't be good.)
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[QUOTE=TH89;22165531]I thought the visual style was what we were talking about.[/QUOTE] It is, and they're really nothing alike. No more alike than Edd, Ed and Eddy is to Aladdin anyway. And the hair in Haruhi really isn't spiky. It's a bit stylised with spikes, but this is ...
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wut
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Yeah whatever, the point is they look like little children and not sexual at all to me.
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Eh? Dunno about Lucky Star and pedo. It seems very "chibi" or whatever and more desexualised than anything. Although I guess some of them do have boobs... and then there's the pervy and yuri jokes later on.. and.. um... never mind. At least in Haruhi they seem to be playing t...
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You really can't draw a whole lot of comparisons between those images. Pokemon isn't even that well shaded in the show.
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[QUOTE=TH89;22154122]My point was that there's way more variation in how faces and expressions are drawn BETWEEN all those western shows, not within them.[/QUOTE] Not really I'd say. Going from Pokémon to Haruhi they might as well be shows from different ends of the world. Yo...
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Lucky Star is indeed pretty limited, but that is totally made up for by how awesome and super simple the style is. Again, I still don't see how western animation has "greater variety". You pull up Ed, Edd and Eddy as an example even though it quite deliberately is all over th...
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[QUOTE=dgg;22152800]Name them please. And yes, I do pay attention. Also, again, the argument is not that anime lacks a variation in expressions, it is that western animation has much greater variation.[/QUOTE] Don't change your arguments. Even playing along, I'm not sure wtf...
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[QUOTE=dgg;22152448]Dude. How thick headed and stubborn are you? You're defending anime with no reason other than "Because I say so" and "Lol no, ur wrong". I've seen over 100 individual anime TV series, and really, the ammount of different expressions is really minimal. ...
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[QUOTE=dgg;22152112]First two minutes of the first episode of the first season. [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3655193/Expressions/Ed%20Edd%20%26%20Eddy%20expressions%20-%2008.jpg[/img][img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3655193/Expressions/Ed%20Edd%20%26%20Eddy%20expressions%20-%20...
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Don't deny it.
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[QUOTE=dgg;22150714]Funny man. You should do standup.[/QUOTE] It's not a joke, it's the style of the show.
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Are you kidding? Edd, Ed and Eddy has just one expression. :downs:
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That's a lie and you perfectly well know it.
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[QUOTE=TH89;22147545]No we don't. I'm not saying there aren't some pretty lazily animated Western cartoons, but we really DO have more diversity in expression. Here's a few mainstream Western cartoons as examples: [img_thumb]http://www.insidesocal.com/tomhoffarth/spongebob-s...
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[QUOTE=Archy;22146900]yeah, because japan is definitely the king of storymaking and all americans are meh[/QUOTE] To be honest there does seem to be a lot more creativity floating around in Japan than America, look at comics, America has what- superheroes? And Manga is at t...
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Not really a complaint Raikauskone, western animation frequently pulls the no-weiner thing too. Even when the girls have boobs. Have you ever seen the animated Robin with a bulge for example? [img]http://img2.pict.com/96/17/cb/1363028/0/180pxtnba.jpg[/img]
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That would be boring. It's a brilliant original take on a familiar theme.
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I just came a bucket out of my ears. [media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPajdju2PUo[/media]
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[QUOTE=PowerBall v1;22099081]The only shows/manga I respect is One Piece and Batman: The Animated series (if we can count that)[/QUOTE] Er, this is about animé... didn't Batman TAS pretty much define the modern [u]american[/u] animation style?
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I'm actually curious, what do they have in Japan besides copious amounts of crazy?
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I think that's just the jap way of saying bro and sis. But eh, what do I know? I guess there's a big culture for adress over there, they have all those titles and all.
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[QUOTE=sami-pso;22045610]Oh so you too like anime as long as it's fun to watch..[/QUOTE] What a glorious flash of insight.
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[QUOTE=LODY;22041816]what[/QUOTE] Don't say "what"! Say anything other than "what"! "What" makes it worse!
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[QUOTE=LODY;22041409]らき☆すた[/QUOTE] Fail. Too obvious.
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[QUOTE=Akuma_lektro;21769607]>realistic >media of entertainment durrrrrrr [editline]09:00AM[/editline] [url]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7e/Anime.ogg[/url][/QUOTE] Japanese pronounciation is distinct from English you know.
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[QUOTE=Moreto;21769476]You must hate games, movies, tv shows, well pretty well anything! Because honestly what is truly realistic? For some the way out there physics is a appealing quality.[/QUOTE] Apologism gets you nowhere. [editline]08:57AM[/editline] [QUOTE=Akuma_lekt...
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I'm not really sure you are equipped to judge it if your idea of it is dragonball or whatnot. Heck, I barely know the whos whats and suchnots. Maybe you'll find something you like.
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Why would they keep making it if nobody was watching it in their primary audience?
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You don't read animé.
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[QUOTE=dgg;21759646]Why would there be a problem to show a pair of boobs on a show targeted towards teenagers? Also teenagers and children are the only people anime aims towards. They don't specifically make anime targeted at adults.[/QUOTE] Exactly, but in USA that shit w...
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[QUOTE=Rahkshi lord;21758820]Since when was Ranma for children?[/QUOTE] Since it was published in Shōnen Sunday and thematically targets teenagers in high school. Okay maybe not "children" per say, but not exactly adult entertainment.
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[QUOTE=dgg;21755866]They censor sexual content. But other than that, yeah. But Princess Mononoke isn't actually meant to be a childrens movie. It just is because Miyazaki doesn't know how to make anything else but childrens movies with lots of goo/slime and creatures.[/QUOTE]...
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They even translate the sound effects at all?
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Then follow your own advice and shut your mouth. "Cartoons" aren't somehow less valid a form of entertainment.
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[QUOTE=Potatoefp;21754006]It's just fucking cartoons. Who gives a shit?[/QUOTE] People capable of suspension of disbelief. "It's just fucking cartoons" isn't an argument.
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[QUOTE=dgg;21750144]Princess Mononoke was just another childrens movie just disguised as an teenagers/adults movie because "omg, it has the violence and blood".[/QUOTE] Actually this is one reason I like animé, even kids movies are free to show what they want. No censorship...
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Only just finished Endless Eight in the animated show, by "like Primer" do you mean pointlessly unwilling to actually show the action, or a somewhat complicated back and forth time travel plot? I'm not sure, unlike Primer I think the first answer might be as awesome as the last.
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Ah, I just thought it was yet another silly label like graphic novel or, well... manga, because "comic" doesn't sound cool enough.
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[QUOTE=WickedIcon;21743439](Note: The anime of Umineko is actually really, really bad. However, the visual novel is beyond amazing, and deserves a look if you're into horror; I'm still lumping it in with anime because it's Japanese and has strongly anime-inspired art.)[/QUOTE]...
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Are you kidding? I thought animé episodes were loong. I guess that's because I don't watch TV regularly anymore.
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What's with the Lucky Star hate? It's hilarious.
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[QUOTE=Dumba$$;21713890]To be honest, european animation is much better, france in particular. One particular gem, belleville rendez vous, is definatly worth seeing. It has next to no dialouge, and the art style is brilliant. Its about a guy who gets kidnapped while taking p...
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Gotta hand it to him, it's a fun word.
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In before people feed the troll with all their being. (Hint: Don't.)
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Yeah I love the clean, realistic and geometrically perfect style of the more detailed animés. And the fact you can't tell foreground from matte. And I love that it's so articulated. But they can take their low budget still frames and their choppy low framerate animation and sh...
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Animé isn't a genre, it's barely even a style, it's just a stupid weabooism for animation. It's é because you pronounce it "ani mey" not "ani mi"
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You know people look like people to unbiased people. You want azn's to look all weird so when a highly stylized version of a person doesn't look all weird because you see what you want to in the simple lines it's not wrong. You're wrong. The only thing that really bugs me is t...
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[QUOTE=emPiRe14;21698394]And it's all going to be put in one DVD that will cost around 60 bux! Ya know what they say, greed's an art![/QUOTE] I thought it was seven DVD's with nonsequential numbering, each costing 60 USD. Basically, hit and miss spend 60 USD over and over try...
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[QUOTE=Archy;21698372]it's basically the same thing as children's cartoons, except it's been pushed up beyond belief by a bunch of nerds who want to see violence and naked women[/QUOTE] There's adult themed Animé too. It's just that USA has some strange infatuation with label...
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[QUOTE=B1N4RY!;21698092]Endless Eight was dumb, it was practically the same shit played over and over again for 13 episodes straight.[/QUOTE] Thirteen?! Endless Eight is, as the name might imply, eight episodes long. And apart from being utterly lulz inducing as you h...
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[QUOTE=CoolKingKaso;21697681]I also can't stand The Melancholy of Haruhi (kill me for this)[/QUOTE] Oh come on, Endless Eight is complete lol. :v: Kyon-kun, denwa. Kyon-kun, denwa. Kyon-kun, denwa. Kyon-kun, denwa. Kyon-kun, denwa. Kyon-kun, denwa. Kyon-kun, denwa. Kyon-kun,...
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[QUOTE=ProboardslolV2;21696222]It's not the fact that it's japanese, japan is ok. It's not the fanbase, every genre has a fanbase of weird people and normal people. It's not the odd way that things are drawn, I kind of like the way it's drawn. Nope, it's the fact that 99.9...
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[QUOTE=Fire Kracker;21695970]bleh i'd rather not understand what they're saying than hear fake sounding voices [editline]05:29PM[/editline] how do you hate something without a reason the only time you'd hate something without a reason is when your trying to fit in with...
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Because popular internet culture tells them to hate it is why.
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