Gearbox president: 'Borderlands has zero competition'
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[QUOTE=Sardonus;36901931]it's one of the most reptitive games I've ever played
it's a 4 player MMO
I could never get into it[/QUOTE]
I played Borderlands with three of my friends start to finish in about three sittings totaling about 30 hours and it was the most fun we've ever had.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;36902609]Wasn't it the same was in the original? They're just reskins of the same guns, but limited to the model pieces of the same manufacturer.[/QUOTE]
Yes. Each manufacturer had their own sights, look, and weapon build. Hyperion was the best manufacturer if I'm correct. Don't remember the worst. There was one for accuracy, firepower, and Capacity. Also a balanced one too. I think that is correct. Borderlands 2 is going to be more distinct.
[QUOTE=Sardonus;36901931]
it's a 4 player MMO
[/QUOTE]
I....what?
[QUOTE=JustGman;36901719]thats like saying every rpg ever made copied diablo.[/QUOTE]
hardly, i've played lots of rpgs and none came close to the level of dungeon crawl and loot farming that borderlands & diablo did
rpgs traditionally have a huge focus on story; diablo and borderlands didn't so much. rpgs traditionally have an abundance of interaction outside of combat; diablo and borderlands didn't so much.
i'm not saying borderlands is bad; far from it. but to ignore the fact that borderlands's shtick is straight ripped from diablo and games of that nature is ridiculous, and the primary reason that there's not already a shitload of copies of that - because it's a very specific combination.
[QUOTE=JustGman;36901719]thats like saying every rpg ever made copied diablo.[/QUOTE]
but they actually did, you run through the same parts killing the same enemies in the same areas just like in diablo
it's not like anything is wrong with that though
Borderlands was one of those games that I never really felt compelled to stick around and play more than 35 hours in, despite being a game that clearly supported more playtime. It was a mostly pretty damn great 35 hours especially as a co-op game, but after playing a good chunk of time in it, you kind of experienced all you needed to get out of the game. IMO, it was worth the $30 I spent on it.
But a lot of aspects in Borderlands were heavily wrapped up in a "testing the concept" package, so there was a lot of potential depth to the game that just wasn't there, that contributed to me losing interest. And then certain aspects of the game were just luke warm or bad, such as some of the gunplay, everything is a desert, the last boss, etc. Granted they put what they had together rather well and it was a solid experience, but I always got the feeling that they could have really expanded on a lot of the core experience and depth the game has.
Which is why I'm super excited for Borderlands 2, because it basically goes, "yeah, that first game was a pretty successful proof of concept. Time to go all out and really tie up any loose ends or bad points the first game had! And then on top of that we'll add a whole bunch of new shit too"
[QUOTE=BrickInHead;36901229]because they copied the diablo format and made it an fps.[/QUOTE]
To me, Borderlands always felt like Diablo ground up with a bit of Fallout, cooked in the oven at 350 degrees for 2 hours, and then garnished generously with Team Fortress 2.
[QUOTE=redBadger;36901335]I'll be honest I haven't gotten past the first few missions without getting bored out of my mind and quitting.
I've never beaten the game. Most I've gotten out of it was 2 hours.[/QUOTE]
The first couple hours are very boring; it improves dramatically at 3-5 hours in.
[QUOTE=Aide;36901265]This may just be me, but I never saw Borderlands as a game you should or might buy. Even with how many times it gone on sale I've never even thought about buying it.[/QUOTE]
I always see Borderlands as a game I have to buy when it's on sale but then I remember how boring it was when I tried it.
It's a game best enjoyed with friends, but if you're playing alone it does have a slow start
[QUOTE=Protocol7;36904610]It's a game best enjoyed with friends, but if you're playing alone it does have a slow start[/QUOTE]
I've been meaning to beat Borderlands but never have because I've been wanting to do it coop, and nobody wants to play it anymore.
[editline]23rd July 2012[/editline]
Getting 4 people to play the entire game with you is very difficult because real life gets in the way.
[QUOTE=JustGman;36901719]thats like saying every rpg ever made copied diablo.[/QUOTE]
Not really. Borderlands and Diablo fall into the dungeon crawler, games that revolve around quest hubs with randomly generated dungeons, where loot is not generated by developers but randomly created through complex algorithms and stencils. It is a different sub-genre because while RPGs focus on creating a living world and making the player feel part of it, Diablo is all about loot.
As for the statement, Hellgate: London did the Diablo-as-an-FPS first. It was shit, but it did it first.
[QUOTE=cdr248;36901653]Yeah but Dead Island wasn't that fun.[/QUOTE] I've spent more time on dead island than Borderlands, I got a lot out of dead island because of the action. I'm not even halfway into borderlands
Dead Island was boring as hell and more bugged than an ant hill.
Personally I had a great time with Borderlands. I had so many friends wanting to do COOP I had to exclude people because there was only room for 4! I don't really see how Borderlands was anymore grinding than something like Dead Island or Left 4 Dead 2, you're constantly getting cool weapons and skills so you can blow stuff up even bigger, you're never sitting in the same area killing the same monsters just to level up and go to the next area, do you people even know what grinding is? I played World of Warcraft for 7 years, that was grinding. Borderlands 2 also had hilarious writing and characters, and brilliant DLCs.
The only problem with it I ever had was Gamespy acting up and the scaling got a little weird sometimes.
[QUOTE=Aide;36901265]This may just be me, but I never saw Borderlands as a game you should or might buy. Even with how many times it gone on sale I've never even thought about buying it.[/QUOTE]
Probably not a bad decision if you don't have friends to play with
The entire game is basically just constant repetition of the first few hours
[QUOTE=SGTNAPALM;36904629]I've been meaning to beat Borderlands but never have because I've been wanting to do it coop, and nobody wants to play it anymore.
[editline]23rd July 2012[/editline]
Getting 4 people to play the entire game with you is very difficult because real life gets in the way.[/QUOTE]
I'll play with you
Dead Island was a lot less polished but it gave me more unique moments that kept me playing
BL1 was boring as hell unless you got the DLC. Zombie island of Dr Zed or whatever his fucking name is + the one that was all about the red military dudes was way more entertaining than the vanilla missions.
[QUOTE=ForgottenKane;36905466]Dead Island was boring as hell and more bugged than an ant hill.[/QUOTE] The only thing that ticks me about Dead Island is the AI, the faceposing and the bad accents. Apart from that, smashing zombies brains out really gives me a thrill.
My issues with borderlands were:
No replayability (same missions, same enemies in the same exact spots, classes barely differed except for their one special skill).
Enemies didn't feel fun to kill (just ran at you or strafed back and forth whille shooting 10 feet away, it felt like you were shooting at statues since they never reacted except for the same single stun animation/elemental kill animations).
No unique guns (TK's Wave makes you think you're gonna get cool guns then you never get anything like that ever again, unless it's a copypaste quest reward you will ALWAYS get- guaranteed).
No difficulty (hardest difficulty was the same dumb AI that just took longer to kill and hurt more if you fucked up, and then healed to completion 5 seconds later from regen).
The game was awesome for the first playthrough when you were taking in everything fresh but even then it was pretty boring with the grind quests (which then were the only thing you did thanks to the DLC). Who wants to grind 10,000 drops per playthrough for a single mission (out of 10+ grind missions + tiers)?
[QUOTE=Lizzrd;36902328]This, however, will change in BL2.
You might find similar looking guns from the same manufacturer, but a tediore gun will look completely different from a vladorf gun:
[IMG]http://i.imgur.com/jsnx5.jpg[/IMG][/QUOTE]
fucking [B][I]oh my[/I][/B] that's a helluva incentive to continue my tradition of using Vladof as my main
[I]You don't need to be a better shot, you just need to shoot more bullets.[/I]
[QUOTE=MightyMax;36901303]Indeed, it's a good game. It's even better with friends.
"OH GOD THE ENDING SUCKS JESUS CHRIST THE WHOLE GAME IS ASS"
No, fuck you, the ending did suck but the rest of it was fun.[/QUOTE]
A game that has "singleplayer" mode should be enjoyable without an army of friends.
[QUOTE=LEETNOOB;36911806]A game that has "singleplayer" mode should be enjoyable without an army of friends.[/QUOTE]
its like Dead Island
based around 4 people and therefore works better with 4 people
It was a good game, but way too slow-paced if you were playing on your own
Looking forwards to 2
[QUOTE=Sardonus;36902068]does anyone else see the Goatse?
just me?[/QUOTE]
They are on every thread man!
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