• Pre-Purchase Now: Call of Duty®: Black Ops II
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[QUOTE=SPESS MEHRINE;35830400]While this does sound interesting I still have little interest in the game, CoD gunplay bores the hell out of me.[/QUOTE] Yeah the gunplay mechanics worked well for their time in CoD4 but they seriously need an upgrade. It's not smooth at all compared to modern games and feels like what you'd expect a free to play fps to play like. I think it's because of the guns never moving except for slight twitches when you shoot them. Makes it look super choppy.
Wow, how many of these games have been made?
[QUOTE=NorseTech;35830577]Wow, how many of these games have been made?[/QUOTE] probably too much
[QUOTE=Onirik;35830612]probably too much[/QUOTE] Too many Modern Warfare games for sure. [editline]4th May 2012[/editline] Specifically one too many.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;35830517]Lol [I]what[/I] We've seen, what, thirty seconds of gameplay?[/QUOTE] So what? maybe it's because they enjoyed World at War and Black Ops and are excited to see the new stuff that's being added in. If FP can get excited over static noise that says Battlefield 3 and pre order over that then I see nothing wrong with this. [QUOTE=Meller Yeller;35830552]Yeah the gunplay mechanics worked well for their time in CoD4 but they seriously need an upgrade. It's not smooth at all compared to modern games and feels like what you'd expect a free to play fps to play like.[/QUOTE] CoD gun play is incredibly smooth and arcady (you know since its not realistic and before you start thinking that I am praising the gun play, im not, but saying it's not smooth is ridiculous.) it also helps with the high fps, have you ever played a free to play fps? most of the gun play is not smooth at all and horrible to play. [QUOTE=NorseTech;35830577]Wow, how many of these games have been made?[/QUOTE] Well 1 Black Ops game has been made and Treyarch have made 3 games, so that's not much, the name doesn't really matter since it's 2 different developers so I don't see what your trying to go with this.
Just preordered! [sub][sub][sub]joking[/sub][/sub][/sub]
[QUOTE=Raidyr;35830430]Why are you even in a thread about pre-ordering a CoD game. Or just spam me with dumbs instead of answering a completely legitimate question.[/QUOTE] I wasn't aware that I wasn't allowed to come to a CoD thread unless I was a fan of the series. I also have the right to post my opinion and you have the right to post yours. I "spammed" you with dumb(s) because you pretty much just said "Don't like Call of Duty? Then GET OUT!"
It doesn't look smooth at all to me. The way the camera zooms on the sights, plus the gun never moving when you fire it, plus the hitscan system makes the entire experience feel choppy as a whole to me. Maybe it's just a personal thing for me but MW3's gunplay did not feel like that of a $60 game from 2011 when I played it over the free weekend.
[QUOTE=Wii60;35829848]dispite popular belief call of duty black ops 2 changes alot [url]http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/122/1224158p1.html[/url][/QUOTE] It doesn't change one thing; the popular kids and jocks at school will still play it. That's still a big strike against it in nerd world.
[QUOTE=bobsynergy;35830633]So what? maybe it's because they enjoyed World at War and Black Ops and are excited to see the new stuff that's being added in. If FP can get excited over static noise that says Battlefield 3 and pre order over that then I see nothing wrong with this.[/QUOTE] Anybody that buys a sequel "just because the previous title is good" is an idiot, Battlefield 3 trailer's had a huge amount of gameplay in it, showed of it's fantastic visuals too (Not a 7 year old engine) [quote] CoD gun play is incredibly smooth and arcady (you know since its not realistic and before you start thinking that I am praising the gun play, im not, but saying it's not smooth is ridiculous.) it also helps with the high fps, have you ever played a free to play fps? most of the gun play is not smooth at all and horrible to play. [/quote] The gunplay feels like no recoil cannons with shitty gun sounds firing at other no recoil cannons with shitty gun sounds, you're also comparing a hugely funded game to a f2p shooter. I liked black ops, there;s no need for the blind hate, I agree. But to blindly defend this game is silly, Treyarch promised Dedicated servers and instead gave us shitty ones with little control, they promised mod tools, we got shitty incredibly limited tools. They lie, to increase sales, so a lot of people are incredibly sceptical about this "Strike force" thing, they say it makes for an incredibly open experience, but in reality it will probably just be "Press x to choose from one linear mission to the next"
[QUOTE=Ziron;35830717]It doesn't change one thing; the popular kids and jocks at school will still play it. That's still a big strike against it in nerd world.[/QUOTE] So you're simply not going to consider it because it's too ~mainstream~ for you?
[QUOTE=usaokay;35830730]Preordered because I'm not going to let the man carry me down.[/QUOTE] I wouldn't tell you not to preorder because it's Call of Duty I would just think it's dumb to preorder anything when they've shown basically nothing of it.
[QUOTE=SPESS MEHRINE;35830687]I wasn't aware that I wasn't allowed to come to a CoD thread unless I was a fan of the series. I also have the right to post my opinion and you have the right to post yours. I "spammed" you with dumb(s) because you pretty much just said "Don't like Call of Duty? Then GET OUT!"[/QUOTE] I never said you had to be a fan of the series, and I never said you didn't have the right to say a game is bad, just genuinely wondered why someone who admits that he doesn't like CoD would go into a CoD thread to let everyone else know they don't like CoD. I didn't pretty much say anything, I blatantly asked a question that piqued my curiosity. Sorry if you are so defensive about it, I didn't know it was SOP to go into threads for games you don't like nor care about. I just typically don't go to those threads because I have no interest. Thanks for the alternative viewpoint :)
[QUOTE=Ziron;35830717]It doesn't change one thing; the popular kids and jocks at school will still play it. That's still a big strike against it in nerd world.[/QUOTE] You know, people say Call of Duty is killing gaming. But I disagree. I think separating people into groups and invalidating their opinions is killing gaming far more effectively then a slightly-redundant popular FPS series that is going to eventually die an be replaced by the next slightly-redundant popular FPS series.
[QUOTE=Meller Yeller;35830702]It doesn't look smooth at all to me. The way the camera zooms on the sights, plus the gun never moving when you fire it, plus the hitscan system makes the entire experience feel choppy as a whole to me. Maybe it's just a personal thing for me but MW3's gunplay did not feel like that of a $60 game from 2011 when I played it over the free weekend.[/QUOTE] Never played MW3, maybe it's different? all the others felt smooth to me [QUOTE=The very best;35830723]Anybody that buys a sequel "just because the previous title is good" is an idiot, Battlefield 3 trailer's had a huge amount of gameplay in it, showed of it's fantastic visuals too (Not a 7 year old engine) The gunplay feels like no recoil cannons with shitty gun sounds firing at other no recoil cannons with shitty gun sounds, you're also comparing a hugely funded game to a f2p shooter. I liked black ops, there;s no need for the blind hate, I agree. But to blindly defend this game is silly, Treyarch promised Dedicated servers and instead gave us shitty ones with little control, they promised mod tools, we got shitty incredibly limited tools. They lie, to increase sales, so a lot of people are incredibly sceptical about this "Strike force" thing, they say it makes for an incredibly open experience, but in reality it will probably just be "Press x to choose from one linear mission to the next"[/QUOTE] I was talking about the teaser not the actual gameplay trailer, it was exactly what you said, people pre ordered because the previous BFs were good and the only thing we saw was a teaser with static noise. Visuals are not that important to me to be honest, as long as the game is consistent with it's graphics and it looks decent and the game is fun then I don't see the problem. For the gunplay, that has nothing to do with how smooth it is, that has to do with the gun play it's self, it's still smooth but that doesn't mean it's good, its arcady just like CoD has always been since CoD 1, I brought up the f2p shooter because that's what Meller Yeller was comparing it to or else it would of made no sense to say that. The mod tools were a disappointment but that's Activisions choice not Treyarchs, the Strike Force mode would mean massive sales for CoD if it's true and affects all 3 platforms and not just PC so idk about that. Also were the dedicated servers limited? I thought server owners had plenty of control over them?
[QUOTE=bobsynergy;35830803]Words[/QUOTE] Just keep in mind, I'm referring to Treyarch and activision as one (Because they basically are) The problem with the gunplay, is that it's unsatisfying, that's why they flash big +200 ULTRA LONGSHOT on your screen whenever you get a kill, it's designed to be easy and reward you with flashy colours
I'll actually be preordering this. Treyarch actually makes good COD games, and this looks more promising than the other games. But my PayPal was shut down, so it will definitely be at GameStop or something.
I'm still fucking amazed at how all it took to get Facepunch to swallow a load of Treyarch was a future setting. Seriously. You guys rant on about how awful these games are and suddenly they throw on a future skin pack and now it's like the next Half Life or some shit for you people. It's gonna be the same fucking game as always. Same mediocre gameplay, same recovering health, same linear levels, same handheld tours through setpieces... why do you people still buy into this shit?
[QUOTE=Sardonus;35830887]I'm still fucking amazed at how all it took to get Facepunch to swallow a load of Treyarch was a future setting. Seriously. You guys rant on about how awful these games are and suddenly they throw on a future skin pack and now it's like the next Half Life or some shit for you people. It's gonna be the same fucking game as always. Same mediocre gameplay, same recovering health, same linear levels, same handheld tours through setpieces... why do you people still buy into this shit?[/QUOTE] Trying too hard.
[QUOTE=RichyZ;35830909]because we find it fun maybe?[/QUOTE] no that's bullshit stop liking what I don't like you whore
if you don't like CoD then get the fuck out of the thread. You're not being edgy saying OH THIS IS A REHASH. NONE of you have even played the game or seen anything other than a 2 minute trailer.
[QUOTE=Raidyr;35830915]Trying too hard.[/QUOTE] But.. this happens every year. Step 1) New COD Announced. All of FP announces "THIS ONE'S GONNA CHANGE THINGS! THIS ONE'S GONNA BE FANTASTIC! Step 2.) Game comes out. Turns out, NOTHING CHANGED. Step 3.) All of FP turns against COD and goes back to hating until the newest one comes out.
Facepunch! Bandwagons ahoy!
They should release the same game again. I wonder if anyone will notice. Seriously though, my animation teacher has worked on the CoD franchise and he says there is barely any development art and things like that.
[QUOTE=The very best;35830848]Just keep in mind, I'm referring to Treyarch and activision as one (Because they basically are) The problem with the gunplay, is that it's unsatisfying, that's why they flash big +200 ULTRA LONGSHOT on your screen whenever you get a kill, it's designed to be easy and reward you with flashy colours[/QUOTE] The previous CoDs have been the same except without the number thing, I have never found the gun play to feel satisfying, but it has always been fun, CoD 1 - Black Ops. Most arcadey fps games have unsatisfying gun play though, depends if you can just have fun with it or not. [QUOTE=Sardonus;35830887]I'm still fucking amazed at how all it took to get Facepunch to swallow a load of Treyarch was a future setting. Seriously. You guys rant on about how awful these games are and suddenly they throw on a future skin pack and now it's like the next Half Life or some shit for you people. It's gonna be the same fucking game as always. Same mediocre gameplay, same recovering health, same linear levels, same handheld tours through setpieces... why do you people still buy into this shit?[/QUOTE] Because it's fun, the only games I have on my Steam list that are like that are the other CoDs, I can't get the same gameplay from Hitman, Stalker, Total War, CoH, CS, RS, RO, Elder Scrolls, KF, Portal, Half Life and whatever else I have on there. If I want to play a mission where I shoot a bunch of civilians at an airport I have to play MW2 for that, if I want to play a mission where I travel down a river shooting Vietnamese while listing to the Rolling Stones I can only play Black Ops for that. I have all those games when I want a different experience and CoD when I want that arcade shooting experience mindless fun (even though they are adding RTS missions to Black Ops). [QUOTE=Sardonus;35830938]But.. this happens every year. Step 1) New COD Announced. All of FP announces "THIS ONE'S GONNA CHANGE THINGS! THIS ONE'S GONNA BE FANTASTIC! Step 2.) Game comes out. Turns out, NOTHING CHANGED. Step 3.) All of FP turns against COD and goes back to hating until the newest one comes out.[/QUOTE] I am pretty sure this is the only recent CoD where there is more people on here coming out and saying "yeah I think it will be good because of X and I dont give a shit if you like it or not"
Very interested in this game and everything new it is offering, gonna pre-order it eventually. Not through Steam though, Steam and its prices can get fucked. I'll prob get it through ozgameshop or cdwow.com.au depending on which is cheaper (suggest you Aussies to do the same).
[QUOTE=Sardonus;35830938]But.. this happens every year. Step 1) New COD Announced. All of FP announces "THIS ONE'S GONNA CHANGE THINGS! THIS ONE'S GONNA BE FANTASTIC! Step 2.) Game comes out. Turns out, NOTHING CHANGED. Step 3.) All of FP turns against COD and goes back to hating until the newest one comes out.[/QUOTE] I don't remember anyone at FP ever being positive about a CoD game except for slightly Black Ops because it's arguably the best release since CoD4 and took place somwhere new. Also, still trying too hard.
[QUOTE=FreakySoup;35830758]So you're simply not going to consider it because it's too ~mainstream~ for you?[/QUOTE] More like we've had enough of people talking about it at school, you would be annoyed too if you heard people talking about it every day constantly. They usually don't even know what they are talking about so they just make themselves sound like idiots. Especially with all the "XDXDXD i ownd u nub [MLG] [420] [weed]".
Really, you are going to say this happens every year? Go read some MW3 threads. Relevant ones aren't that old so it should be easy. [editline]5th May 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Bumrang;35830997]More like we've had enough of people talking about it at school, you would be annoyed too if you heard people talking about it every day constantly. They usually don't even know what they are talking about so they just make themselves sound like idiots. Especially with all the "XDXDXD i ownd u nub [MLG] [420] [weed]".[/QUOTE] If you are getting mad because people are talking about a popular video game I'd say the problem is more likely with you.
[QUOTE=Sardonus;35830887]I'm still fucking amazed at how all it took to get Facepunch to swallow a load of Treyarch was a future setting. Seriously. You guys rant on about how awful these games are and suddenly they throw on a future skin pack and now it's like the next Half Life or some shit for you people. It's gonna be the same fucking game as always. Same mediocre gameplay, same recovering health, same linear levels, same handheld tours through setpieces... why do you people still buy into this shit?[/QUOTE] Not the regenerating health nooooooooo
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