• SimCity to use always-on DRM, no mod tools at launch
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[QUOTE=The golden;35334541]I wouldn't buy it even if it was DRM-free. I would rather stick red-hot forks into my eyes than give EA my money. I refuse to support their greed and corruption with even a single cent. It's painful to see people recognize the HORRIBLE business practices EA has done over the years and yet they still line up to give them money.[/QUOTE] your xfire is chock full of ea titles
[QUOTE=MrParalegal;35334700]Find it funny how everybody throws a fit over a simple DRM, while precious Steam is just that.[/QUOTE] Valve = Trustworthy company who actually respect and appreciate they're fanbase. EA = Cunts who only give a shit about your wallet.
Yup, not pre-ordering this. What a joke.
Oh boy, I love losing my internet and being kicked from a singleplayer game because of it. Oh yes, keep slapping me in the face EA, I'm sure the pirates you have accumulated are really feeling my sting.
Yeah that's a shame, but it's not going to stop me from getting the game. I mean It's fucking SimCity 5 made by Maxis. Any DRM can screw themselves, I'll just get a crack or something (buying it legally of course ;)).
This is literally what pirates were made for. [I]This [/I]stupid shit right here.
I'll still buy it, because I believe maxis will put out a good game. If I ever find myself having trouble with the online shit I could always patch it.
Why would they release details of DRM now? Could they be looking out to see what reaction they get? If I was releasing a top class game like this is likely to be I'd go on about the features of the game itself and what it can offer - I'd leave the DRM until the last week or not mention it at all.
[QUOTE=JustExtreme;35336357]Why would they release details of DRM now? Could they be looking out to see what reaction they get? If I was releasing a top class game like this is likely to be I'd go on about the features of the game itself and what it can offer - I'd leave the DRM until the last week or not mention it at all.[/QUOTE] If they were "not idiots", they wouldn't have even thrown this out there to begin with.
And thus people complain that they aren't going to buy the game because of this stuff. Then, the game comes out, said people get it anyway, and enjoy it and forget that they weren't going to get the game because of this stuff. A good game isn't limited by one little detail. Just because it is DRM doesn't mean it won't be good, it's just stupid to not get it because of that! If it was like that, then almost every good game wouldn't be played because of some little detail!
It's like that time in the Steam sale with Assassins Creed II, and I bought it but couldn't play it cos their servers were down for maintenance for a week. For a single player game.
It started off so promising...
If I buy this game I'll probably download the pirate patches that let you play it in offline mode.
[del]I[/del] WE waited 9 years for [I]this[/I]?! This is outrageous. I always found SimCity to be the perfect but very entertaining time waster. What if I suddenly lose internet connection by sheer accident? Of course, unsaved progress goes to SHIT. Unless it (finally) has auto-save. It wouldn't help much though, you wouldn't be able to play the game. If only, if ONLY these idiots would figure out to put in an Offline Mode, with an one-time authentication system like some games have. It's a shame Maxis has to follow these orders or else they'll be gone to shit... sigh.
If you want to stop pirating as much as you can, make it a good game and give the users a reason to buy it, like Steam Workshop, where people would be able to upload their own modded stuff/cities and whatnot. That way people would gain from buying it. With DRM like this, you would only gain by pirating it. How is this so hard for EA to understand?
Can anyone clarify if it qualifies as "warez" if you buy the game. And then torrent a version with the DRM ripped out?
I got a question. Is there any existing single player game that has this always online DRM?
[QUOTE=booster;35336577]If you want to stop pirating as much as you can, make it a good game and give the users a reason to buy it, like Steam Workshop, where people would be able to upload their own modded stuff/cities and whatnot. That way people would gain from buying it. With DRM like this, you would only gain by pirating it. How is this so hard for EA to understand?[/QUOTE] Because lawyers don't understand economic markets. EA aren't publishers, they're game lawyers and investment tycoons. They don't understand anything that doesn't involve legal papers. [editline]29th March 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=thelurker1234;35336640]Can anyone clarify if it qualifies as "warez" if you buy the game. And then torrent a version with the DRM ripped out?[/QUOTE] Technically yes. Morally no. You buy a licence for 1 product. Having a clone of that 1 product is not only a breach of your license (Well, depending on the license), but also against their copy-prevention circumvention clause. The way I see it? You bought a product, and you should be allowed to use said product in any means for your own personal use.
And this will do nothing to stop pirates. This is also EA, the guys that turn off master servers for games on a yearly basis, if this master server goes down, no one plays ever again. [QUOTE=Coffee;35334268]With Ubisoft's Anno 2070, it uses a similar drm scheme, and when internet happens to go off, say the wireless blips off for a second, Anno 2070 informs you of this, but it doesn't stop you playing, you can carry on playing for as long as you want without any issue, then when your internet comes back on, everything still normal.[/QUOTE] Yeah you can keep playing with half the game's features turned off. [QUOTE=Swebonny;35336192]Yeah that's a shame, but it's not going to stop me from getting the game. I mean It's fucking SimCity 5 made by Maxis. Any DRM can screw themselves, I'll just get a crack or something (buying it legally of course ;)).[/QUOTE] If they pull a Ubisoft, you'll have half your game's content turned off even if you use cracks. Don't know if there's a better crack but initial cracks didn't allow everything.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;35336651]I got a question. Is there any existing single player game that has this always online DRM?[/QUOTE] Assassin's Creed II comes to mind.
[QUOTE=Swebonny;35336651]I got a question. Is there any existing single player game that has this always online DRM?[/QUOTE] Anno 2070. You can keep playing but you get half your game's content turned off if you lose Internet connection.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;35336652]Because lawyers don't understand economic markets. EA aren't publishers, they're game lawyers and investment tycoons. They don't understand anything that doesn't involve legal papers. [editline]29th March 2012[/editline] Technically yes. Morally no. You buy a licence for 1 product. Having a clone of that 1 product is not only a breach of your license (Well, depending on the license), but also against their copy-prevention circumvention clause. The way I see it? You bought a product, and you should be allowed to use said product in any means for your own personal use.[/QUOTE] Well. as far as I know. Its perfectly legal and fine to do it from the people i've asked.
The ONLY cool thing about ACII's online system is the achievement reward system, and where you can unlock content for the game/other Ubisoft games through an achievement point system
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;35336762]Well. as far as I know. Its perfectly legal and fine to do it from the people i've asked.[/QUOTE] In the small print, it's not. Sort of. It's one of those grey areas. Lawyers are trying to push for a '1 license 1 file' sort of standpoint - but I don't believe that's ever been tested in court. Besides, it's not exactly enforced. [editline]29th March 2012[/editline] And if you're asking for a Facepunch mod-team viewpoint - don't bother, they change their minds every couple of months :v:
Moar like Suckcity.
[QUOTE=MrEndangered;35336778]In the small print, it's not. Sort of. It's one of those grey areas. Lawyers are trying to push for a '1 license 1 file' sort of standpoint - but I don't believe that's ever been tested in court. Besides, it's not exactly enforced. [editline]29th March 2012[/editline] And if you're asking for a Facepunch mod-team viewpoint - don't bother, they change their minds every couple of months :v:[/QUOTE] eh. Fuck em, Do what I wish with my copy.
[QUOTE=thelurker1234;35336640]Can anyone clarify if it qualifies as "warez" if you buy the game. And then torrent a version with the DRM ripped out?[/QUOTE] You could just crack your legitimate version of the game. Why? [QUOTE=MrEndangered]The way I see it? You bought a product, and you should be allowed to use said product in any means for your own personal use.[/QUOTE]
"Let's fight piracy by not catering to the customer!" "No no no that will never work. What we need to do is fuck them over completely."
this game has no always on drm ea confirmed it
"Hey guys we're creating a lot of hype for our new game and the customers are looking forward to it, feel like fucking it up for no reason?"
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