Mass Effect 3 team to provide 'clarity' and 'closure,' details in April
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[QUOTE=Coffee;35233107]I want an ending only available to maleshep, where he masturbates into the Crucible and causes everyone in the universe to become Shepard.[/QUOTE]
So basically [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ygI-2F8ApUM#t=181s]this ?[/url]
(if someone can make proper media tags where the video jumps to 3:01 it would be nice)
Also, I don't get why people are mad about the "ALL MY CHOICES DIDN'T CONTRIBUTE TO THE ENDING". [sp]So what if I destroyed Maelon's data? So what if I saved the rachni? So what if I punched that damn reporter not one, not two, but three times? All those events were supposed to allow me to choose the ending, not influence it. The ending is massive in scope, we're basically dictating what happens to the galaxy in the long term when speaking to a goddamned master AI which is probably billions of years old, and responsible for the whole extinction cycle - do you really think making the geth sentient could influence our choice?[/sp] Think rationally.
However, yeah, some closure would be nice.
[QUOTE=PacificV2;35233268]Also, I don't get why people are mad about the "ALL MY CHOICES DIDN'T CONTRIBUTE TO THE ENDING". [sp]So what if I destroyed Maelon's data? So what if I saved the rachni? So what if I punched that damn reporter not one, not two, but three times? All those events were supposed to allow me to choose the ending, not influence it. The ending is massive in scope, we're basically dictating what happens to the galaxy in the long term when speaking to a goddamned master AI which is probably billions of years old, and responsible for the whole extinction cycle - do you really think making the geth sentient could influence our choice?[/sp] Think rationally.
However, yeah, some closure would be nice.[/QUOTE]
No one gives a fuck about those little things. It's about the bigger choices throughout ME1, ME2 and ME3.
[QUOTE=PacificV2;35233268]Also, I don't get why people are mad about the "ALL MY CHOICES DIDN'T CONTRIBUTE TO THE ENDING". [sp]So what if I destroyed Maelon's data? So what if I saved the rachni? So what if I punched that damn reporter not one, not two, but three times? All those events were supposed to allow me to choose the ending, not influence it. The ending is massive in scope, we're basically dictating what happens to the galaxy in the long term when speaking to a goddamned master AI which is probably billions of years old, and responsible for the whole extinction cycle - do you really think making the geth sentient could influence our choice?[/sp] Think rationally.
However, yeah, some closure would be nice.[/QUOTE]
The endings are supposed to choose a lot depending on your major actions through the rest of the game, like saving the council or or not, giving reaper tech to cerberus, etc.
Plus, the developers PROMISED an ending that was not an A/B/C one, and they promised their would be tons of possibilities.
They needed to have some sort of monologue or something at the end. Just sayin "okay I destroyed the reapers, good game, cya" leaves more doors open than it closes.
Oh and there's also the fact that the entire EMS part of the game is POINTLESS.
They stated that if you didn't have a good enough EMS, no one would help you out, the reapers would wipe out Earth and everyone would be fucked after that. You could actually lose MASSIVELY if you fucked up your EMS, instead of a 1 second cutscene that shows some guys getting vaporized, but the job still being done.
They could add on, say this ending was a dream from [sp]all the blood loss you had from when you ran into the beam, making kinda like the ending of Fallout 3 with broken steel, [/sp]
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;35233192]So basically [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=ygI-2F8ApUM#t=181s]this ?[/url]
(if someone can make proper media tags where the video jumps to 3:01 it would be nice)[/QUOTE]
Exactly. It's a brilliant idea and Bioware should have done it like that.
[QUOTE=Ganerumo;35233378]The endings are supposed to choose a lot depending on your major actions through the rest of the game, like saving the council or or not, giving reaper tech to cerberus, etc.
Plus, the developers PROMISED an ending that was not an A/B/C one, and they promised their would be tons of possibilities.[/QUOTE]
All those big things are still ridiculously small-scale when compared to deciding the fate of the galaxy. Come on, we're talking about a massive invasion from beings from outside the galaxy that are hellbent on culling us. I don't see Cerberus having access to reaper tech changing anything. And I think everyone noticed how powerless the council truly is when Udina asked the council for help.
[QUOTE=Hysteric;35232358][B]BROWN EXPLOSIONS[/B][/QUOTE]
Frankly, I think we already had that.
[QUOTE=PacificV2;35233714]All those big things are still ridiculously small-scale when compared to deciding the fate of the galaxy. Come on, we're talking about a massive invasion from beings from outside the galaxy that are hellbent on culling us. I don't see Cerberus having access to reaper tech changing anything. And I think everyone noticed how powerless the council truly is when Udina asked the council for help.[/QUOTE]
That's not the problem
The problem was basically how no matter what you did the endings were all the same aside from the "guaranteed" everyone dies ending. Synthesis was probably one of the coolest endings but it's just boom, green laser, game over. What would life look like with synthesis? If you controlled the Reapers? But it doesn't tell you that. It's just "Hey, game over, here's the galaxy getting blown up, good work, buy our DLC."
What they had was decent enough but it didn't fill the shoes it should have.
If Bioware does a 180 and release a genuine ending, maybe with an apology and acknowledgement for fucking up, they will get some good press from gamers.
Honestly I don't really mind. The ending was complete bullshit but the game itself, not to mention the multiplayer, is just too much fun for it to be ruined by it.
I'm hoping the indoctrination theory is correct as it seems pretty viable, infact after looking at all the evidence towards this theory I'd have a hard time not believing in it.
[QUOTE=Wormy;35233904]We only got green, red, blue.[/QUOTE]
But the combination of all those still amounted to naught but explosive diarrhoea.
Or after I just watched indoctrination videos, that, it makes sense, [sp]the way Sheppard acted, the secret ending where he was breathing on earth, it makes sense if they did this from the begining, try to pull off something awesome, which it could be, but if they charge, fuck them[/sp]
Anyone else still a bit skeptikal?
Im not getting my hopes up. At least then, i will either be pleasantly surprised or smug that I was right.
This is so fucking stupid. Changing endings is just stupid, if they continue from that little extended ending where you see him breath back on earth, then that's okay. But they shouldn't touch anything in the citadel.
[QUOTE=hoodoo456;35233131]Why does everyone fucking assume they're gonna sell this? seriously, where does it say, "hey guys, better ending coming up, get your 20 bucks ready!" I have not seen anything to even imply they will charge for it, and if they do, then that was EA's decision.[/QUOTE]
If they're being EA's bitch then why should I continue to trust in their future endeavors? They've dropped the quality of the game due to EA's demands, that shouldn't garner any respect or sympathy.
[QUOTE=spekter;35237451]If they're being EA's bitch then why should I continue to trust in their future endeavors? [b]They've dropped the quality of the game due to EA's demands[/b], that shouldn't garner any respect or sympathy.[/QUOTE]
What did they change for that reason? And better yet, why would EA actually want lower-quality products? I know EA sucks, but I guess I'm a bit out of touch with the specifics.
[QUOTE=Ekalektik_1;35237504]What did they change for that reason? And better yet, why would EA actually want lower-quality products? I know EA sucks, but I guess I'm a bit out of touch with the specifics.[/QUOTE]
They've made people pay for DLC already on the disk and they've altered the ending from previous and better iterations to presumably stick to a deadline. However now they're literally doing what we all joked about which is charging for post-game DLC.
Anyone who says they wont charge is an idiot, they can and will because they know most idiots will buy it.
About Time.
I'm hopeful they might add in some extra missions for the Quarian/Geth conflict so peace can be made with a exiled tali
[quote]The trilogy's conclusion has inspired a level of fervent outrage and activism that real problems like poverty and world hunger could only dream of. [/quote]
hahaha
[QUOTE=Flyboi;35233985]I'm hoping the indoctrination theory is correct as it seems pretty viable, infact after looking at all the evidence towards this theory I'd have a hard time not believing in it.[/QUOTE]
End of plot spoilers. Do not read
[sp]The fact that the child at the end is the child from your nightmares, with shadowy figures standing all around (specifically mentioned in the indoctrination codex article), pretty much gave it away. Plus the fact that shephard wakes up in london at the end, despite that fact that he should have been killed by the destroy synthetic life option. The child specifically mentions this will kill shephard. Also, the child is voice acted by both female and male shephard at the same time. This must have bean deliberate. [/sp]
Everyone is in such a rush to hate bioware, i think the subtleness of the ending has been missed
[QUOTE=Icedshot;35252105]End of plot spoilers. Do not read
[sp]The fact that the child at the end is the child from your nightmares, with shadowy figures standing all around (specifically mentioned in the indoctrination codex article), pretty much gave it away. Plus the fact that shephard wakes up in london at the end, despite that fact that he should have been killed by the destroy synthetic life option. The child specifically mentions this will kill shephard. Also, the child is voice acted by both female and male shephard at the same time. This must have bean deliberate. [/sp]
Everyone is in such a rush to hate bioware, i think the subtleness of the ending has been missed[/QUOTE]
Stop assuming this was Bioware's attention. It isn't approved by Bioware yet.
Plus, if Bioware uses it now, there's no way to know it was their original idea all along.
[QUOTE=Icedshot;35252105]End of plot spoilers. Do not read
[sp]The fact that the child at the end is the child from your nightmares, with shadowy figures standing all around (specifically mentioned in the indoctrination codex article), pretty much gave it away. Plus the fact that shephard wakes up in london at the end, despite that fact that he should have been killed by the destroy synthetic life option. The child specifically mentions this will kill shephard. Also, the child is voice acted by both female and male shephard at the same time. This must have bean deliberate. [/sp]
Everyone is in such a rush to hate bioware, i think the subtleness of the ending has been missed[/QUOTE]
This ending was not approved by Bioware yet.
If Shepard WAS indeed indoctrinated, it would have been revealed at the end of the game, and the clues would have been here to allow for a second playthrough where it's much clearer (kinda like when you watch a movie such as Fight club or Shutter Island for the second time and try to find all the details that build up to the twist ending).
Plus, you're forgetting a HUGE detail.
[img]http://cdn2.gamefront.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/mass-effect-dlc-message-2.jpg[/img]
THIS MESSAGE.
If shepard was indoctrinated and the entire part where he supposedly saves humanity is a dream, his waking up being only the moment where he will really save everyone, then why is there a message that tells you you already accomplished your goal and that the reaper threat was ended ?!
Bioware did not plan out the indoctrination ending, at least I don't think they planned it out THAT far. They just wanted to hint at the fact that the child is actually more than a mere kid who died in an explosion and that it just tried to communicate with Shepard. He didn't get actually indoctrinated and he still did his job, end of story.
oh what a spectacular ending to a trilogy i completely stopped paying attention to half way through the second part
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