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[QUOTE=Ragekipz;44916222]Because I'm legally allowed to do it, I don't give a fuck what you think.[/QUOTE] Have fun being a terrible person then :)
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;44916211]No, it's something only rapists should do, [B][U]because they're the ones committing rapes[/U][/B][/QUOTE] WE SHOULDN'T ALL BE FORCED TO LOWER OUR CHANCES OF BEING ROBBED, THAT'S SOMETHING ONLY THE ROBBERS SHOULD DO, [B][U]BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES COMMITTING THE ROBBING[/U][/B].
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;44916222]Because I'm legally allowed to do it, I don't give a fuck what you think.[/QUOTE] Obviously you do or you wouldn't have taken the time to explain exactly how much of a fuck you don't give about being a shit
Yeah #realtalk it's not cool to go after assault and sexual assault as being something the victims need to change to fix. There are no laws that say "Don't get raped" or "Don't get mugged" or "Don't get abused by your partner", there are laws that say "Don't rape" and "Don't mug" and "Don't abuse anyone"
[QUOTE=Tacosheller;44916238]Obviously you do or you wouldn't have taken the time to explain exactly how much of a fuck you don't give about being a shit[/QUOTE] Rape jokes shouldn't even be called rape jokes, because they're not funny.
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44916203]I agree, that something you can do to fight this on a social scale. I never disputed that again. but lowering your risks is something that everyone should do imo.[/QUOTE] that's easy to say but do you realize that "lowering the risks" means never leaving your house at night, never drinking alcohol, never going to parties, and never making any friends considering most people who are raped are raped by somebody they know? And what if someone follows all this advice and it still happens to them? What if the one time they let their guard down they're victimized? Do you think they're going to want to heard your advice then? Do you think women don't know all this stuff already? How clueless do you think people are that what you have to say is new and valuable information to them? Nobody needs or wants your anti-rape advice. Throwing that shit around can only make peoples' attitudes worse; it's not teaching anybody any valuable lessons.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;44916250]that's easy to say but do you realize that "lowering the risks" means never leaving your house at night, never drinking alcohol, never going to parties, and never making any friends considering most people who are raped are raped by somebody they know? And what if someone follows all this advice and it still happens to them? What if the one time they let their guard down they're victimized? Do you think they're going to want to heard your advice then? Do you think women don't know all this stuff already? Nobody needs or wants your anti-rape advice. Throwing that shit around can only make peoples' attitudes worse; it's not teaching anybody any valuable lessons.[/QUOTE] No you can lower you risks, without completely damaging your quality of life. again, you can do this or not do this, it will never be your fault for being raped, ever.
[QUOTE=Tacosheller;44916238]Obviously you do or you wouldn't have taken the time to explain exactly how much of a fuck you don't give about being a shit[/QUOTE] I take a great deal of care so people know how much fucks I give to what you think. It's important to establish this. [QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;44916228]Have fun being a terrible person then :)[/QUOTE] I'm not a terrible person, I just say terrible things.
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;44916261]I take a great deal of care so people know how much fucks I give to what you think. It's important to establish this. I'm not a terrible person, I just say terrible things.[/QUOTE] Genuinely curious, how old are you?
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44916234]WE SHOULDN'T ALL BE FORCED TO LOWER OUR CHANCES OF BEING ROBBED, THAT'S SOMETHING ONLY THE ROBBERS SHOULD DO, [B][U]BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES COMMITTING THE ROBBING[/U][/B].[/QUOTE] Really wish people would stop comparing rape to theft. The motivations behind both crimes are entirely different. Malicious rape is committed for psychological gratification. Theft is done pretty much only for physical reasons (i.e. need to steal some cash/food so you can survive). Therefore comparing rape prevention to theft prevention is stupid as fuck.
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;44916261]I'm not a terrible person, I just say terrible things.[/QUOTE] This is like something you'd say if you were trying to sound untouchable in the 8th grade, but for like the greasiest reason
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44916260]No you can lower you risks, without completely damaging your quality of life. again, you can do this or not do this, [/QUOTE] But this isn't your lesson to teach people. You have to acknowledge that you're just some random guy and there is no rape victim or potential rape victim who needs to hear what you have to say about rape prevention. You think "it's dangerous to be outside at night" is a piece of advice that someone hasn't heard? [QUOTE=Shreddinger;44916260]it will never be your fault for being raped, ever.[/QUOTE] This is literally all you have to say. Just say this one thing and then leave all that other shit out.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;44916283]Really wish people would stop comparing rape to theft. The motivations behind both crimes are entirely different. Malicious rape is committed for psychological gratification. Theft is done pretty much only for physical reasons (i.e. need to steal some cash/food so you can survive). Therefore comparing rape prevention to theft prevention is stupid as fuck.[/QUOTE] Right because people steal only when they REALLY REALLY need it.
[QUOTE=Mega1mpact;44913729]The worst part is that the cops got called on him because people found out about his mental state and they didn't search his house even though his mental state was known, through the forum posts and videos he made, and he was a registered gun owner. If they searched his house then they'd find out what he was planning. He even said so in the manifesto he wrote.[/QUOTE] When it comes to computers/internet and law enforcement, you walk a very narrow line on what you can see.. and even more narrow on what you can do about it.
[QUOTE=MaxOfS2D;44916283]Really wish people would stop comparing rape to theft. The motivations behind both crimes are entirely different. Malicious rape is committed for psychological gratification. Theft is done pretty much only for physical reasons (i.e. need to steal some cash/food so you can survive). Therefore comparing rape prevention to theft prevention is stupid as fuck.[/QUOTE] Simmer down he wasn't comparing it in that way, he was pairing it with another common crime to put it into perspective for weirdos who need help understanding it.
Going to a party half-naked and getting drunk is the same irresponsibility as not locking your door when you're leaving your house. I wish I lived in a world where I could just not lock my door and not give a fuck. I wish I lived in a world without rapists. But I live in a cruel world where people rob and rape, and precisely the reason why I don't do some stupid shit. I'm not blaming the victim for being raped, and the lock analogy is perfectly valid.
[QUOTE=Andokool12;44916288]This is like something you'd say if you were trying to sound untouchable in the 8th grade, but for like the greasiest reason[/QUOTE] The guy knows fuck all about me and he's given me the title "Terrible person" because I have a rape joke on my steam profile. Why should I waste an syllable of my latin trying to make up a counter argument?
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;44916261]I take a great deal of care so people know how much fucks I give to what you think. It's important to establish this. I'm not a terrible person, I just say terrible things.[/QUOTE] It doesn't matter whether you agree with what you're saying or not, when someone else sees it, when they're steeped in that fucking garbage that you copy-paste from /b/, they start to see rape as a joke. When you make rape jokes, you make rapists feel comfortable with what they did. [editline]26th May 2014[/editline] [QUOTE=Ragekipz;44916329]The guy knows fuck all about me and he's given me the title "Terrible person" because I have a rape joke on my steam profile. Why should I waste an syllable of my latin trying to make up a counter argument?[/QUOTE] You've put up a few paragraphs worth of arguments about it so far, dude, maybe you should take your own advice and stop posting
[QUOTE=Tacosheller;44916333]It doesn't matter whether you agree with what you're saying or not, when someone else sees it, when they're steeped in that fucking garbage that you copy-paste from /b/, they start to see rape as a joke. When you make rape jokes, you make rapists feel comfortable with what they did.[/QUOTE] [IMG]https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/3797350/hosting/2014-05/2014-05-26_21-14-27.png[/IMG]
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44916189]However, the are some things which you can do, to lower your chances of getting raped.[/QUOTE] There is literally nothing you can do to "lower your chance" of getting raped. Women in the Middle East wearing burkas get raped. A kid in the US wearing an Elmo t-shirt can get raped. The people who do this don't give a shit about who you are or what you wear and talking about "lowering your chances" of getting raped is a pointless endeavor.
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;44916175][url]http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/dec/02/men-women-brains-wired-differently[/url] Also, don't bullshit me with this taboo. Either everything is worth making jokes or nothing is worth making jokes. Freedom of speech means I can say whatever the fuck I want, even if you don't like it.[/QUOTE] or third option most things are okay to make fun of but some things aren't Also, just because you're legally allowed to do something doesn't mean it's an okay thing to do. I could go tell kindergartners they're all going to die, Santa doesn't exist, the world is disgusting, etc., and it would be legal, but it wouldn't be a good thing to do. [QUOTE=Ragekipz;44916222]Because I'm legally allowed to do it, I don't give a fuck what you think.[/QUOTE] Have fun having no friends [QUOTE=Ragekipz;44916261]I'm not a terrible person, I just say terrible things.[/QUOTE] "I'm not a terrible person, I'm just a terrible person" [QUOTE=NiandraLades;44916276]Genuinely curious, how old are you?[/QUOTE] His name is Ragekipz. How old do you think he is?
Is it really so hard to just be considerate towards other people?
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44916327]Going to a party half-naked and getting drunk is the same irresponsibility as not locking your door when you're leaving your house. I wish I lived in a world where I could just not lock my door and not give a fuck. I wish I lived in a world without rapists. But I live in a cruel world where people rob and rape, and precisely the reason why I don't do some stupid shit. I'm not blaming the victim for being raped, and the lock analogy is perfectly valid.[/QUOTE] Christ how do you not get this. [B]THIS ISN'T ABOUT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE VICTIM[/B] [B]THIS IS ABOUT THE ROLE YOU, AS SOME SHMUCK ON THE INTERNET, HAVE TO PLAY WHEN DISCUSSING RAPE. YOUR ROLE IS TO SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT WHAT THE VICTIM DID WRONG. YOU HOLD NO SPECIAL INFORMATION TO APPRISE RAPE VICTIMS OF.[/B]
[QUOTE=Banned?;44916345]There is literally nothing you can do to "lower your chance" of getting raped. Women in the Middle East wearing burkas get raped. A kid in the US wearing an Elmo t-shirt can get raped. The people who do this don't give a shit about who you are or what you wear and talking about "lowering your chances" of getting raped is a pointless endeavor.[/QUOTE] Citation needed
[QUOTE=Shreddinger;44916327]Going to a party half-naked[/QUOTE] good thing no one does that And unless if a rape victim actually asks you for advice, you shouldn't be telling them "you should be more careful and not dress like such a slut", because there's a 99% chance they've already played through the event who knows how many times in their heads, looked at every detail, and are blaming themselves.
[QUOTE=SigmaLambda;44916361]Christ how do you not get this. [b]THIS ISN'T ABOUT RESPONSIBILITY OF THE VICTIM[/b] [b]THIS IS ABOUT THE ROLE YOU, AS SOME SHMUCK ON THE INTERNET, HAVE TO PLAY WHEN DISCUSSING RAPE. YOUR ROLE IS TO SHUT THE HELL UP ABOUT WHAT THE VICTIM DID WRONG. YOU HAVE NOTHING TO APPRISE RAPE VICTIMS OF.[/b][/QUOTE] Oh I'm sorry, I didn't know I was supposed to follow the role some shmuck on the internet gave me, lol. how about you stfu and don't reply to my messages anymore?, ty. [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Awful post" - Craptasket))[/highlight] [highlight](User was banned for this post ("Awful post - Was just banned. Ban history" - Craptasket))[/highlight]
[QUOTE=Tacosheller;44916160]What the fuck are you even doing Do you know how to read I posted that 250,000 rapes happen annually you replied: and when you were criticised for it that means that you believe the study was incorrect[/QUOTE] Looks like Teracotta left. I wanted them to explain this. Maybe they will when they come back. [QUOTE=Ragekipz;44916329]The guy knows fuck all about me and he's given me the title "Terrible person" because I have a rape joke on my steam profile. Why should I waste an syllable of my latin trying to make up a counter argument?[/QUOTE] you've spent more time whining about having to give a counter argument when arguing than actually giving a counter argument
[QUOTE=Last or First;44916349]or third option most things are okay to make fun of but some things aren't[/QUOTE] Why? Because you might offend someone? Every joke is offensive to someone, if we were to be considerate with everybody, no jokes would be made. Ever. [QUOTE=Last or First;44916349] Have fun having no friends [/QUOTE] Have fun making assumptions. [QUOTE=Last or First;44916349] His name is Ragekipz. How old do you think he is?[/QUOTE] And I'm arguing with a guy named Tacosheller.
[QUOTE=Ragekipz;44916413]Why? Because you might offend someone? Every joke is offensive to someone, if we were to be considerate with everybody, no jokes would be made. Ever. Have fun making assumptions. And I'm arguing with a guy named Tacosheller.[/QUOTE] I mean, my name isn't a combination of two memes that are almost ten years old, so idk what you're getting at and whenever you want to provide an actual argument you can go ahead, because you haven't done that yet
[QUOTE=Tacosheller;44916160]What the fuck are you even doing Do you know how to read I posted that 250,000 rapes happen annually you replied: and when you were criticised for it that means that you believe the study was incorrect[/QUOTE] You posted that 250,000 rapes are reported annually. I simply said not everything reported is true. If I really wanted to say that was bullshit I would have asked what happened to innocent until proven guilty, since multiple lives have been totally destroyed due to false rape claims and media reporting guilty until proven innocent. I'm switching out a water heater, something I'm sure 90% of facepunch has never done by themselves.
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